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The Saudi national — originally identified as Abdul Rahman Ali Alharbi — has been the topic of fierce debate in recent days, after he was reportedly set to be deported under section 212 3B of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) – “Security and related grounds” – “Terrorist activities,” after the bombing.
The story gained a curious twist when, after it gained more traction, President & Chief Content Officer for TheBlaze Joel Cheatwood received word from one of his investigative reporters that “there is now discussion that they may not allow this man to be deported.”
When Napolitano was asked about the issue by South Carolina Rep. Jeff Duncan last week, she said his question was “so full of misstatements and misapprehension that it’s just not worthy of an answer.”
Originally posted by phantomjack
The Saudi national — originally identified as Abdul Rahman Ali Alharbi — has been the topic of fierce debate in recent days, after he was reportedly set to be deported under section 212 3B of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) – “Security and related grounds” – “Terrorist activities,” after the bombing.
The story gained a curious twist when, after it gained more traction, President & Chief Content Officer for TheBlaze Joel Cheatwood received word from one of his investigative reporters that “there is now discussion that they may not allow this man to be deported.”
When Napolitano was asked about the issue by South Carolina Rep. Jeff Duncan last week, she said his question was “so full of misstatements and misapprehension that it’s just not worthy of an answer.”
[url=http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/21/key-congressmen-requests-classified-briefing-on-saudi-person-of-interest-in-boston-bombing/]SOURCE[/ur l]
Glenn Beck breaking the story on the Saudi National originally captured on Monday after the bombing was classified immediately that day of being a terrorist, and then later removed from that classification a day later.
Now congress is asking questions.
Where is the Saudi National now? Why was he "mistakenly" identified as being part of the bombing, to, becoming just a suspect, to then being a person of interest, then to being reduced to just a victim of the bombing?
And then, the following day, we have the President meeting with the Saudi prince?
To, the next thing we hear, is the Saudi National, all of a sudden, is being deported.
This is about to get very interesting!
edit on 22-4-2013 by phantomjack because: (no reason given)
The Saudi national who was initially detained and then ruled out as a suspect in the Boston Marathon terrorist attack had been flagged on a terror watch list and was granted a student visa without being properly vetted, sources have told me.
A source close to the investigation revealed that Abdul Rahman Ali Alharbi had been deemed inadmissible under the section of the Immigration and Nationality Act which declares ineligible for a visa – any alien who is engaged in or is likely to engage after entry – in terrorist activity.
At least two additional sources have confirmed to me that Ali Alharbi is set to be deported as early as this week, contrary to statements made by Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano. [...]
Napolitano denied anyone was being deported in a heated exchange Thursday with Rep. Jeff Duncan (R-SC) during a House hearing.
Two grounds of inadmissibility:
• INA § 212(a)(3)(B)
• INA § 212(a)(3)(F)
INA § 212(a) Classes of Aliens Ineligible for Visas or Admission
Except as otherwise provided in this Act, aliens who are inadmissible under the following paragraphs are ineligible to receive visas and ineligible to be admitted to the United States:
* * * *
(3) (B) Terrorist Activities
(i) In General
Any alien who—
(I) has engaged in a terrorist activity;
(II) a consular officer, the Attorney General, or the Secretary of Homeland Security knows, or has reasonable ground to believe, is engaged in or is likely to engage after entry in any terrorist activity (as defined in clause (iv));
(III) has, under circumstances indicating an intention to cause death or serious bodily harm, incited terrorist activity:
(IV) is a representative (as defined in clause (v)) of —
(aa) a terrorist organization (as defined in clause (vi)); or
(bb) a political, social, or other group that endorses or espouses terrorist activity;
(V) is a member of a terrorist organization described in subclause (I) or (II) of clause (vi);
(VI) is a member of a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(III), unless the alien can demonstrate by clear and convincing evidence that the alien did not know, and should not reasonably have known, that the organization was a terrorist organization;
(VII) endorses or espouses terrorist activity or persuades others to endorse or espouse terrorist activity or support a terrorist organization;
(VIII) has received military-type training (as defined in section 2339D(c)(1) of title 18, United States Code) from or on behalf of any organization that, at the time the training was received, was a terrorist organization (as defined in clause (vi)); or
(IX) is the spouse or child of an alien who is inadmissible under the subparagraph, if the activity causing the alien to be found inadmissible occurred within the last 5 years,
is inadmissible.
An alien who is an officer, official, representative, or spokesman of the Palestine Liberation Organization is considered, for the purposes of this Act, to be engaged in a terrorist activity.
(ii) Exception
Subclause (VII) of clause (i) does not apply to a spouse or child—
(I) who did not know or should not reasonably have known of the activity causing the alien to be found inadmissible under this section; or
(II) whom the consular officer or Attorney General has reasonable grounds to believe has renounced the activity causing the alien to be found inadmissible under this section.
(iii) Terrorist Activity Defined
As used in this Act, the term “terrorist activity” means any activity which is unlawful under the laws of the place where it is committed (or which, if it had been committed in the United States, would be unlawful under the laws of the United States or any State) and which involves any of the following:
(I) The highjacking or sabotage of any conveyance (including an aircraft, vessel or vehicle).
(II) The seizing or detaining, and threatening to kill, injure, or continue to detain, another individual in order to compel a third person (including a governmental organization) to do or abstain from doing any act as an explicit or implicit condition for the release of the individual seized or detained.
(III) A violent attack upon an internationally protected person (as defined in section 1116(b)(4) of title 18, United States Code) or upon the liberty of such a person.
(IV) An assassination.
(V) The use of any— (a) biological agent, chemical agent, or nuclear weapon or device, or (b) explosive, firearm, or other weapon or dangerous device (other than for mere personal monetary gain), with intent to endanger, directly or indirectly, the safety of one or more individuals or to cause substantial damage to property.
(VI) A threat, attempt, or conspiracy to do any of the foregoing.
(iv) Engage in Terrorist Activity Defined
As used in this Act, the term “engaged in terrorist activity” means, in an individual capacity or as a member of an organization—
(I) to commit or incite to commit, under circumstances indicating an intention to cause death or serious bodily injury, a terrorist activity;
(II) to prepare or plan a terrorist activity;
(III) to gather information on potential targets for terrorist activity;
(IV) to solicit funds or other things of value for—
(aa) a terrorist activity;
(bb) a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(I) or (vi)(II); or
(cc) a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(III), unless the solicitor can demonstrate by clear and convincing evidence that he did not know, and should not have reasonably known, that the organization was a terrorist organization;
(V) to solicit any individual—
(aa) to engage in conduct otherwise described in this subsection;
(bb) for membership in a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(I) or (vi)(II); or
(cc) for membership in a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(III) unless the solicitor can demonstrate by clear and convincing evidence that he did not know, and should not have reasonably known, that the organization was a terrorist organization; or
(VI) to commit an act that the actor knows, or reasonably should know, affords material support, including a safe house, transportation, communications, funds, transfer of funds or other material financial benefit, false documentation or identification, weapons (including chemical, biological, or radiological weapons), explosives, or training—
(aa) for the commission of a terrorist activity;
(bb) to any individual who the actor knows, or reasonably should know, has committed or plans to commit a terrorist activity;
(cc) to a terrorist organization described in subclause (I) or (II) of clause (vi) or to any member of such organization; or
(dd) or to any member of such an organization, unless the actor can demonstrate by clear and convincing evidence that the actor did not know, and should not reasonably have known, that the organization was a terrorist organization.
(v) Representative Defined
As used in this paragraph, the term “representative” includes an officer, official, or spokesman of an organization, and any person who directs, counsels, commands, or induces an organization or its members to engage in terrorist activity.
(vi) Terrorist Organization Defined
As used in this section, the term “terrorist organization” means an organization—
(I) designated under section 219;
(II) otherwise designated, upon publication in the Federal Register, by the Secretary of State in consultation with or upon the request of the Attorney General or the Secretary of Homeland Security, as a terrorist organization, after finding that the organization engages in the activities described in subclauses (I) through (VI) of clause (iv); or
(III) that is a group of two or more individuals, whether organized or not, which engages in, or has a subgroup which engages in, the activities described in subclauses (I) through (VI) of clause (iv).
INA § 212(a)(3)(F) Association with Terrorist Organizations
Any alien who the Secretary of State, after consultation with the Attorney General, or the Attorney General, after consultation with the Secretary of State, determines has been associated with a terrorist organization and intends while in the United States to engage solely, principally, or incidentally in activities that could endanger the welfare, safety, or security of the United States is inadmissible.
Originally posted by TrowaBarton
reply to post by phantomjack
He is dropping knowledge about the matter on his radio show right now Here
That is all
Trowa
Originally posted by Dianec
Originally posted by TrowaBarton
reply to post by phantomjack
He is dropping knowledge about the matter on his radio show right now Here
That is all
Trowa
Is there anyway to provide a synopsis? It takes time to set up an account and by that time it will be over. Thanks
Originally posted by TrowaBarton
reply to post by Dianec
In short in case you missed it, he was stating the above facts that phantom jack stated about terrorist classification. He also stated about him being here on a visa and how he is a college student who was supossed to be in Finlay, Ohio. He also went on to explain how this is similar to the 180 (number may be wrong at work so trying to listen to the best of my ability) Saudis including members of OBLs family who were flown out of the country in the days after 9/11 while all other flights were grounded
A good article is now on his site here
A lady also just called claiming she was in contact with her congressman and that he told her that they are under the impression that this man is long since been deported. I for one found it odd that they claimed last week in the msm that he was being held until tomorrow
That is all
Trowaedit on 22/4/13 by TrowaBarton because: To edit text
Originally posted by phantomjack
The Saudi national — originally identified as Abdul Rahman Ali Alharbi — has been the topic of fierce debate in recent days, after he was reportedly set to be deported under section 212 3B of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) – “Security and related grounds” – “Terrorist activities,” after the bombing.
The story gained a curious twist when, after it gained more traction, President & Chief Content Officer for TheBlaze Joel Cheatwood received word from one of his investigative reporters that “there is now discussion that they may not allow this man to be deported.”
When Napolitano was asked about the issue by South Carolina Rep. Jeff Duncan last week, she said his question was “so full of misstatements and misapprehension that it’s just not worthy of an answer.”
[url=http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/21/key-congressmen-requests-classified-briefing-on-saudi-person-of-interest-in-boston-bombing/]SOURCE[/ur l]
Glenn Beck breaking the story on the Saudi National originally captured on Monday after the bombing was classified immediately that day of being a terrorist, and then later removed from that classification a day later.
Now congress is asking questions.
Where is the Saudi National now? Why was he "mistakenly" identified as being part of the bombing, to, becoming just a suspect, to then being a person of interest, then to being reduced to just a victim of the bombing?
And then, the following day, we have the President meeting with the Saudi prince?
To, the next thing we hear, is the Saudi National, all of a sudden, is being deported.
This is about to get very interesting!
edit on 22-4-2013 by phantomjack because: (no reason given)edit on 4/22/13 by Hefficide because: Fixed all caps title.
Originally posted by phantomjack
Here is the banter by Janet Reno over the Saudi National:
Same old, Same Old: Twist, distort, and deflect.
How did this woman ever even get into the position she is in?edit on 22-4-2013 by phantomjack because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by phantomjack
Here is the banter by Janet Reno over the Saudi National:
Same old, Same Old: Twist, distort, and deflect.
How did this woman ever even get into the position she is in?edit on 22-4-2013 by phantomjack because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Dfairlite
IF the GB timeline on this is correct, then this is much bigger than anything we've seen in a while, and really a bold disinformation move from above. To have the documents in congress' hands and still deny it is a whole new level.edit on 22-4-2013 by Dfairlite because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by fusse
The real question at hand is why was this man deported. What was is he hiding?
Also, could this be the reason why they wanted both suspects dead?
You don't put an entire city under lockdown for one 19 year old kid which is why I have a really hard time believing only 3 people were involved in this. The pressure cookers at the race track could have just been the tip of the iceberg for what their cell had planned (the Saudi proves this was much bigger than we expected and not just two lone Chechens who did this).edit on 22-4-2013 by fusse because: (no reason given)