Two UFOs, in high orbit, detected during Antares launch.

As many astronauts has said: "When we go out there, we are never alone...", and so with any spaceship that leave this planet. I've detected TWO shining objects in this NASA Video for the successful Launch of Antares Rocket on 21 april 2013. The two UFOs appear at 08:57 with a fast and parallel path, and suddenly, when they came into the center of the screen, one of them (the lower one) stop suddenly, and..... NASA transmission go dark!

Orbital Sciences Antares rocket successfully launched at 5 p.m., Sunday, April 21 from the Mid-Atlantic Regional Spaceport's Pad 0A at NASA's Wallops Flight Facility in Virginia. All system nominal. The Antares launch vehicle made its maiden flight Sunday, launching from Pad 0A at the Wallops Flight Facility, Va. at 5 p.m. Eastern time on a test flight that served as the precursor for a demonstration flight of its Cygnus resupply ship to the International Space Station later this year. Antares will be delivering a mass simulator payload to orbit 10 minutes after launch designed to mimic the Cygnus spacecraft's weight and characteristics.

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Hard to tell as they're only visible for a short time but my first thought was maybe Satellites , there's plenty of em up there .

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Arken ... nice find

Not sure what those objects are ... but the timing of them appearing and the picture going out is certainly interesting !

Hmmm, interesting how their visual equipment seemed to conveniently jar up as usual.


Great vid, love watching these launches.

Probably chinese lanterns or ice crystals or something ,definitely UFO's until someone can clearly identify what they are.

Originally posted by Arken
As many astronauts has said: "When we go out there, we are never alone...",

What astronauts say that? I just googled that phrase and, in the entire Internet, it only appears in your post on Above Top Secret.

Originally posted by kudegras
Probably chinese lanterns or ice crystals or something ,definitely UFO's until someone can clearly identify what they are.

Who could that be?

For study purposes here's the segment repeated 5 times ...

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Thanks for the video easynow

It seems to me that the objects come into view as the rocket rolls to the right , I see no indication that the objects themselves are moving .

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Hey gortex thanks for the reply,

No problem on the vid, I thought it might help to watch it repeated like that to look for clues !

I agree with you, I don't see any reason to think the objects are moving as if they came from the rocket and you may be right about them being satellites like you suggested. Of course the objects could be many things but I have a sneaky suspicion the feed was cut-off because the "object recognition" video system picked up the targets and that's why the picture ended like it did. I could be wrong but that's what it looks like to me.

Cheers

Originally posted by MrFantastic1

Originally posted by Arken
As many astronauts has said: "When we go out there, we are never alone...",

What astronauts say that? I just googled that phrase and, in the entire Internet, it only appears in your post on Above Top Secret.

Good catch. Of course no astronaut has ever said this, likely it's just another UFOric internet fairy tale that small minds enjoy playing with to creatively but unjustifiably exploit the accomplishments and honor of astronauts. In their own minds, maybe it makes them feel smarter than their family, friends, and treachers, who giggle at them.

Originally posted by easynow
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Arken ... nice find

Not sure what those objects are ... but the timing of them appearing and the picture going out is certainly interesting !

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If you're really interested, why not tell us what mission events are also occurring in this interval? Afraid to risk discovering easy prosaic explanations?:

Remember my 'space UFO' rule -- the less real knowledge sbout spaceflight, the greater enthusiasm for UFO interpretations.

Learn to do this yourself, if you genuinely want 'the truth'.

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My answer to you is ...

Originally posted by easynow
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My answer to you is ...

[snip silliness]

No surprise.

A mature and constructive response would have been more along these lines:

forum.nasaspaceflight.com...

Look at the shadows along the equipment and even the lens flare moves so the vehicle is probably rotating bringing either a couple of very bright stars into view or space junk. The UFOs appear to be static (not moving).

Aliens? Not in my opinion... just something more mundane.

Nice to see people examining everything though.

The objects seem to be receding as the rocket passes them, so I'm thinking satellites, space junk, etc. There's so much stuff up there, it's a stretch to automatically say UFO. Keep your eyes open though, never can tell when it'll be the real thing. Nice catch.

Originally posted by DAVID64
The objects seem to be receding as the rocket passes them, so I'm thinking satellites, space junk, etc. There's so much stuff up there, it's a stretch to automatically say UFO. Keep your eyes open though, never can tell when it'll be the real thing. Nice catch.

Good points, especially re watching. I';ve come to doubt we ever really get images of classic 'space junk', however. More likely, pieces off the space vehicle itself, especially during dynamic phases such as engine shutdown.

These are from my 'space UFO FAQ' essay on my home page:

34 Q: What have these ‘space UFOs’ turned out to be?

A: Some of them turn out to be the same things ‘ground UFOs’ have been, such as misperceived normal human flight activity, natural atmospheric phenomena [when looking downward towards Earth], window reflections, defects, or contamination, or on occasion, bright celestial objects such as the Moon and – yes! – Venus. On occasion, during night passes, astronauts on space walks in the dark have seen what turned out to be bright lights on Earth’s surface passing beneath them. Some are other orbiting space vehicles, but only rarely. Most are ‘stuff’ coming off the vehicle the observation is being made from, that flies along with the vehicle for a period of time. See the locations of these vents here: www.jamesoberg.com...



35 Q: How much of it is “space junk”?

A: Very, very little, actually – if you use the standard definition of “space junk” to mean other satellites and pieces off of them, which constitute an impact hazard to human space missions and automated satellites as well. Because all orbiting objects are moving at tremendous speeds in different directions, when they do pass closely to each other, they zip past at several miles per second. Thus they are extremely difficult to detect visually. Anything that was seen over a period of time longer than a few seconds would have to have been something closely following the observer, and thus associated with the vehicle from which the observation was being made. Now, that's unless it was somebody else’s vehicle deliberately keeping pace, of course. But "space junk" as we commonly use the term? Hardly ever, maybe never.



36 Q: How often do astronauts see passing satellites out the window, or on TV screens.

A: Astronauts have observed other distant satellites, but not often. On special research programs, some astronauts have been able to spot ‘Iridium flares’ [Don Pettit, for example]. But on occasion when the crew was advised to look for a particularly close [a few miles] pass of a large satellites, every effort to detect the fly-by visually has failed. I have never found a single case of an observed nearby object turning out to be a passing satellite in independent orbit.

Explanation: S&F!

On the issue of 'never alone" I was able to quikly find these following references to those specific terms ...

We're not alone, says former Nasa astronaut (by Ed Pilkington in New York The Guardian, Saturday 26 July 2008 ) [guardian.co.uk]

The list of those who subscribe to the theory that alien life forms and UFOs have visited Earth amid a massive government cover-up is long and varied.

It includes cranks, paranoid delusionals and editors of the Daily Star (and sometimes all three).

But a Nasa astronaut who has walked on the moon? The profile of Edgar Mitchell does not conform to that of your common or garden UFO aficionado. He holds two Bachelor of Science degrees and a doctorate in aeronautics from the prestigious and not exactly tree-huggy Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

Along with Alan Shepard, he holds the record for the longest moon walk - for nine hours on February 9 1971 as part of the Apollo 14 mission, making him the sixth man to walk on the moon.

Put all that together and it is no wonder that an interviewer with a UK radio station almost fell off his seat this week when he lobbed Mitchell what he thought was a throwaway question: Did he believe in life on other planets?

"Oh yes," came the reply. "There's not much question at all that there is life throughout the universe. I'm totally sure we are not alone."

Were US Astronauts Ordered Not To Report UFOs & Aliens? (by By Douglas Herman) [rense.com]

"At no time, when the astronauts were in space were they alone: there was a constant surveillance by UFOs." - Scott Carpenter

Scott Carpenter [wiki]

NASA Astronaut and Russian Cosmonaut Facts [ufocasebook.com]

Following the Gemini missions the Apollo Space Program took effect, and on 20th July 1969 the astronauts of Apollo 11 took their first steps on the surface of the Moon. Although it was claimed that nothing unusual was seen by the astronauts, rumors that the crew were "never alone" whilst on the moon began to circulate.

So ^^^ That is what I was able to find in 15mins ... I DO NOT ENDORSE ANY OF IT AS FACTUAL YET OK!

Personal Disclosure: I hope that helps my fellow members to take this ball and run with it from here as far and as fast as they can!

I suggest that maybe Jim Oberg with his NASA connections may be able to interview Scott and see whether he confirms or denies what the article in rense attributes to him as saying.

Originally posted by OmegaLogos

I suggest that maybe Jim Oberg with his NASA connections may be able to interview Scott and see whether he confirms or denies what the article in rense attributes to him as saying.

Excellent idea.

www.jamesoberg.com...

The bigger question is, why can't an internet search engine be designed to locate refutations and debunkeries of the nonsense that echoes endlessly through the WWW.

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Explanation: Seems i jumped the gun a bit early. My apologies to Jim.

Here is why ...

Caution: .pdf file! Acees at your own risk ok!
Carpenter Debunks [jamesoberg.com]

From:
Date: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 6:37 AM
Jim,
Thanks for offering me a forum. In the past, I've not bothered to refute these and other outrageous reports of my belief in, or sightings of, UFOs (Flying Saucers). They are too preposterous to favor with credibility or honor with
reply. You however, raise a different and more important issue, that of the young kids who are not yet familiar with the power of logical thinking, who are unsuspectingly led astray by the glamour of the UFO idea, and who tend to believe the nonsense these twisted minds dream up and posit as fact on the Internet.
They claim that those who disagree, lie, and challenge us to prove that UFOs don't exist.
That's their leg up...proving non-existence is impossible.
So, Mr. Oberg, in order to help set these naive people free of the crazy beliefs they are asked to adopt, feel free to quote me as follows, (and use any adjectives you choose which are roughly synonymous with poppycock): The quote (below) is absolute hogwash and a blatant lie. I never thought it, never said it, and it never happened.
NASA's Scott Carpenter "At no time, when the astronauts were in space were they alone: there was a constant surveillance by UFOs."
I hope the two of us can help set at least some people straight.
Really enjoyed perusing your web page.
All best, and Merry Christmas
Scott
From: To:
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 1:06 PM
Jim. Good for you and your follow up. I wish more folks like you would challenge these guys. At least that might get some of the trash off the street.
Happy New Year.
Scott

I am willing to take that fully at face value and say that Scott never said such things.

Personal Disclosure: However that still leaves Edgar Mitchell's comments.

As for the two 'ufos' I will invoke Scott and say that they are simply ...

Working through five onboard experiments dictated by the flight plan, Carpenter helped, among other things, to identify the mysterious 'fireflies' (which he renamed 'frostflies,' as they were in reality particles of frozen liquid around the craft), first observed by Glenn during MA-6. Carpenter was the first American astronaut to eat solid food in space