Witness says Boston bomb suspect run over and executed by police!

There were a lot of cars called out that night

Red? accord
Dodge avenger
Black Nissan murano (could have been mistaken for Mercedes)
Stolen police suv
Black truck on bridge
Honda crv
Truck at MIT

Just off the top of my head but there were a lot more

At some point any car in the area was a vehicle of intrest

I don't know about any of you but I can drive one handed and smoke a cigarette, with my window down.
I can even switch the radio station driving one handed smoking a cigarette, but maybe that's just me


(Smoking to light a fuse then grab the gun off the seat fire a few times grab another fused bomb and light it)

Thanks for the twitter link!

Interesting image:





Notice the boot of the Accord to the far left of the shot, with multiple gun shots in it's bodywork? Is that the two suspects leaning down at the hood of the Merc SUV?


Wow, look at this footage (turn your head to left, so it's the right way up):

link

Is that the suspects lighting a fuse on something? Watch it multiple times.



EDIT: Somebody please download that video, and brighten it and flip it the right way up!

reply to post by captaintyinknots

Originally posted by captaintyinknots
As I said in another thread on this subject:

By most accounts, the boys were in a stolen Police SUV. Thus, it would be quite easy for this witness to get confused, since it WAS a police vehicle that ran him over.

Another non-conspiracy.

"Most accounts"?

Other than the police, there are no accounts. And what was their story?

That they were completely innocent. It was the suspect which ran over his own brother.

Then the other brother, the one that got run over, he started shooting at the peace officers.

The most insulting aspect of this ridiculous story is their image of the America people, that we are stupid enough to believe this nonsense.

Originally posted by AmatuerSkyWatcher
Thanks for the twitter link!

Interesting image:





Notice the boot of the Accord to the far left of the shot, with multiple gun shots in it's bodywork? Is that the two suspects leaning down at the hood of the Merc SUV?


Wow, look at this footage (turn your head to left, so it's the right way up):

link

Is that the suspects lighting a fuse on something? Watch it multiple times.



EDIT: Somebody please download that video, and brighten it and flip it the right way up!

edit on 21-4-2013 by AmatuerSkyWatcher because: (no reason given)

Looks like a guy in a white t-shirt. Definitely lighting something. You can clearly see a lighter being 'flicked' about two times with one hand, and the other bringing something up to the flames. What it is? Dunno. WHO it is.. dunno.

reply to post by thedigirati


Can you do all that whilst in the middle of a high speed police chase? I don't think I could.

Everybody is arguing over what was said on the police scanners......they also mentioned rockets in the basement, tunnels, deadman switches, sandwich trucks, unattended bags throughout the entire city, terrorists running through the woods at full speed, people jumping off bridges, etc. Boston PD was entirely confused during the whole event and IMHO should have been told to back the *snip* off and let the professionals deal with it.

As for the boat... I find it really hard to believe that this old man got out a ladder and climbed up to the boat and peeked inside w/o getting shot by the so-called dangerous, psycho, terrorist who just moments later had a wild shootout with police. And where is the supposed "pool of blood"? Boat

How did injured 19 y/o, who had been bleeding profusely for nearly 24-hours get in there without being noticed by 9000 LEOs? Not to mention, he was carrying guns and ammo. I just don't buy it. He is wearing what looks to be the same outfit from the 7-11 surveillance. His clothes don't look very bloody for a man that has been bleeding all day and leaving blood trails throughout the city. If he did shoot himself or get shot in the head/neck where is all the blood?

People wouldn't question these things if there wasn't so much lying and hiding. Show us all the "evidence" and people may start believing the official story.

reply to post by AmatuerSkyWatcher

most likely, but then I was a Marine and kinda trained for that sorta stuff.

(and yes I had more than 6 months of training)

These two individuals are accused of having injured 180 people and killed 3, so why are you suggesting they should have not been captured and fed alive to dogs???

Any thoughts?

reply to post by thedigirati


Fair play! So, do you think it would be possible for someone with no m,ilitary training or specialist training to be able to drive like that? Serious question, I have no idea.

Originally posted by AmatuerSkyWatcher
Thanks for the twitter link!

Interesting image:





Notice the boot of the Accord to the far left of the shot, with multiple gun shots in it's bodywork? Is that the two suspects leaning down at the hood of the Merc SUV?


Wow, look at this footage (turn your head to left, so it's the right way up):

link

Is that the suspects lighting a fuse on something? Watch it multiple times.



EDIT: Somebody please download that video, and brighten it and flip it the right way up!

edit on 21-4-2013 by AmatuerSkyWatcher because: (no reason given)

Its |BOTH suspects....one is by the front left light already, suspect 2 runs to him and lights something



Thumbnail is messed up...video is flipped, zoomed, and adjusted/slowed

Originally posted by stirling
The breeze from the sheets swishing through the air as all involved agencies try to cover their asses.....is strong enough to knock a sailor off his pins.
The Truth, is the first casualty.when this stuff goes down.

Bomber #2 can't talk now....convenient?

+ + +

The conclusion reached by debkafile’s counterterrorism and intelligence sources is that the brothers were double agents, hired by US and Saudi intelligence to penetrate the Wahhabi jihadist networks which, helped by Saudi financial institutions, had spread across the restive Russian Caucasian. Instead, the two former Chechens betrayed their mission and went secretly over to the radical Islamist networks.

By this tortuous path, the brothers earned the dubious distinction of being the first terrorist operatives to import al Qaeda terror to the United States through a winding route outside the Middle East – the Caucasus.

This broad region encompasses the autonomous or semi-autonomous Muslim republics of Dagestan, Ingushetia, Kabardino-Balkaria, Chechnya, North Ossetia and Karachyevo-Cherkesiya, most of which the West has never heard of.

Moscow however keeps these republics on a tight military and intelligence leash, constantly putting down violent resistance by the Wahhabist cells, which draw support from certain Saudi sources and funds from the Riyadh government for building Wahhabist mosques and schools to disseminate the state religion of Saudi Arabia.
The Saudis feared that their convoluted involvement in the Caucasus would come embarrassingly to light when a Saudi student was questioned about his involvement in the bombng attacks while in a Boston hospital with badly burned hands.

They were concerned to enough to send Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Saudi al-Faisal to Washington Wednesday, April 17, in the middle of the Boston Marathon bombing crisis, for a private conversation with President Barack Obama and his national security adviser Tom Donilon on how to handle the Saudi angle of the bombing attack.
That day too, official Saudi domestic media launched an extraordinary three-day campaign. National and religious figures stood up and maintained that authentic Saudi Wahhabism does not espouse any form of terrorism or suicide jihadism and the national Saudi religion had nothing to do with the violence in Boston. “No matter what the nationality and religious of the perpetrators, they are terrorists and deviants who represent no one but themselves.”

Prince Saud was on a mission to clear the 30,000 Saudi students in America of suspicion of engaging in terrorism for their country or religion, a taint which still lingers twelve years after 9/11. He was concerned that exposure of the Tsarnaev brothers’ connections with Wahhabist groups in the Caucasus would revive the stigma.

The Tsarnaevs' recruitment by US intelligence as penetration agents against terrorist networks in southern Russia explains some otherwise baffling features of the event:
1. An elite American college in Cambridge admitted younger brother Dzhokhar and granted him a $2,500 scholarship, without subjecting him to the exceptionally stiff standard conditions of admission. This may be explained by his older brother Tamerlan demanding this privilege for his kid brother in part payment for recruitment.
2. When in 2011, a “foreign government” (Russian intelligence) asked the FBI to screen Tamerlan for suspected ties to Caucasian Wahhabist cells during a period in which they had begun pledging allegiance to al Qaeda, the agency, it was officially revealed, found nothing incriminating against him and let him go after a short interview.

He was not placed under surveillance. Neither was there any attempt to hide the fact that he paid a long visit to Russia last year and on his return began promoting radical Islam on social media.
Yet even after the Boston marathon bombings, when law enforcement agencies, heavily reinforced by federal and state personnel, desperately hunted the perpetrators, Tamerlan Tsarnaev was never mentioned as a possible suspect

3. Friday, four days after the twin explosions at the marathon finishing line, the FBI released footage of Suspect No. 1 in a black hat and Suspect No. 2 in a white hat walking briskly away from the crime scene, and appealed to the public to help the authorities identify the pair.
We now know this was a charade. The authorities knew exactly who they were. Suddenly, during the police pursuit of their getaway car from the MIT campus on Friday, they were fully identified. The brother who was killed in the chase was named Tamerlan, aged 26, and the one who escaped, only to be hunted down Saturday night hiding in a boat, was 19-year old Dzhokhar.

Our intelligence sources say that we may never know more than we do today about the Boston terrorist outrage which shook America – and most strikingly, Washington - this week. We may not have the full story...

reply to post by colbe


Link to the entire article:

www.debka.com...

When this was happening, Reddit had a open thread going, where a mod was giving breaking updates (based on radio-stream reports and media reports).

www.reddit.com...

What stuck out to me... Relating to this topic.

EDIT 2:20 EST: My streams seems to have lagged behind everyones. Someone hit by car.
EDIT 2:24 EST: 15 shots fired.

Tons of other oddities in the stream of updates going on.

EDIT 12:49 EST: Shots fired in Cambridge. Shots and Explosions in Watertown. (Odd if the suspects are in Watertown at the time, why were shots fired in Cambridge (MIT incident, how can they be 100 percent connected?),

EDIT 1:35 EST: Suspect ordered to strip down before being taken into an armored vehicle. (Ie naked suspect arrest).

In terms of a the missing police Truck(s):

EDIT 12:56 EST: Reports of a stolen state police truck. Black, 4 door.

(this was reported after the Mercedes):

EDIT 12:28 EST: Black Mercedes SUV car-jacked in the last 30 minutes. 2 Middel-Eastern males with firearms. PLEASE don't be related to the bombings Q.Q License Plage - 137 NZ1

Still doesn't explain why the Honda and SUV was on scene, despite media interviews with officials stating they were both in the SUV.

Oddest part:

EDIT 12:32 EST: Car owner is fine, escaped while they were filling up.

EDIT 12:35 EST: Driver of car-jacked Mercedes displayed firearm to police.

Was he law enforcement? So he was car jacked despite having a firearm?

OR was that in reference to suspect currently in mercedes.... Why would they say driver of car-jacked Mercedes and not suspect.

i have not read all the pages here so i'll presume no one mentions this video shown on brazilian TV. it shows a naked tamerlan arrested and walking to the police car. unharmed. note that he gets into the police car UNAIDED.

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it would appear this is not the first time multiple stories are offered by the press for the mostly gullible public to get finally jaded by the whole thing. they are unable to come to a satisfactory answer so they tire and forget the whole drama. for the officials its mission accomplished. they upped the terror level, put the blame on 2 patsys, and continued planning for the next event.

as some posters are distrustfl of BINews, here's another link.
21stcenturywire.com...

I'd no luck finding scanner recordings for that night of the huge thread. I need to find the FEMA State Control announcement, which I heard early that morning. Thought I would ask here as it is the most active Boston thread.


More on topic, there was an all unit advisory that 'information had been received' first suspect 'may have been wearing an explosive vest, which may have exploded when he was being taken into custody.'

reply to post by captaintyinknots


Yea and who told that story??? If I was the cop I can come up with a easy story to cover my tracks.

This pertains to the thread subject. You only have to believe and if you don't, our God given free will. Everybody
has heard this but we forget. Ask your guardian angel to protect when you go out.

an excerpt ~ read the underlined

Yahoo Groups - Seers 2

Message # 40067



April 16, 2013 (9:31am) Tell My beloved children that the events of yesterday in your country have been orchestrated by members behind the scenes who control many terror attacks around the world. By now most of you are thinking this is crazy for the Lord to be making an outrageous statement like this, but unfortunately you have to be made aware of how these people think. They will stop at nothing to keep their power including killing and maiming their own citizens. My dear children, this is why you are being told to stay in the State of Grace and get to Confession if you have serious sins to confess. You never know when your life will be asked of you. You will never get the real truth from this Administration about who perpetrated this horrific crime. My dear ones, these are some of the things that these terrorists will try again. You are being warned to stay out of downtown areas of large cities whenever possible. Always be wary of people around you so you can be prepared to protect yourselves at all times. Remember, My children, these things won't last a long time and also know that God is in control. You are safe when you stay in prayer. My dear children, I know it is hard for you to believe these words, but they are the truth. ...

I love you, Jesus.

Originally posted by ProfessorChaos
Just a note:

I'm not saying these people didn't see what they say they saw, I'm just saying that the human mind works in incredibly strange ways when trying to cope with trauma. Defense attorney's know this and any decent one would try to exploit it.

The Physical Reaction being described / alluded to is called -

Fight or Flight Response

This occurs when a person encounters a situation they know is not normal / high stress / high energy / etc. The physical reactions on the body from this response result in -

Catecholamine hormones, such as adrenaline or noradrenaline, facilitate immediate physical reactions associated with a preparation for violent muscular action. These include the following:[4]
Acceleration of heart and lung action
Paling or flushing, or alternating between both
Inhibition of stomach and upper-intestinal action to the point where digestion slows down or stops
General effect on the sphincters of the body
Constriction of blood vessels in many parts of the body
Liberation of metabolic energy sources (particularly fat and glycogen) for muscular action
Dilation of blood vessels for muscles
Inhibition of the lacrimal gland (responsible for tear production) and salivation
Dilation of pupil (mydriasis)
Relaxation of bladder
Inhibition of erection
Auditory exclusion (loss of hearing)
Tunnel vision (loss of peripheral vision)
Disinhibition of spinal reflexes
Shaking

When you see incidents involving police taking a person into custody from, say, a shooting or vehicle pursuit, you will see the police screaming very loudly at the person, giving the same commands over and over.

This is done in an effort to break through the fight / flight response on the part of the suspect.

This is also the reason you will see police constantly looking around during high stress situations. Its done to counter the tunnel vision / auditory exclusion reaction.

Why is this important?

Without knowing the background of the civilian who witnesses the events.... countering the affects of a fight or flight response is difficult.. Even with police training and years of experience, it is still difficult. Taking a person who is not trained to recognize the effects nor trained in methods to adapt / overcome them, its entirely possible to see something without seeing it all.

As an example with law enforcement - Officers who are involved in a shooting have described things as either occurring in super slow motion, or so fast that they think only seconds passed when in reality its been 10s of seconds.

You will have officers talking about only firing 3 shots when in fact they fired more / less.

In general a person who is involved in a traumatic situation, and witnessing the actions in question qualify for those who have never been around something like that, will continue to remember more about the incident, on average, over 72 hours after the initial event.

the brain continues to process those items the person zoned out of... What the person was wearing.. their actions, what they said, what the smells were like etc etc etc......

To nip this in the bud before someone wants to try and argue.. I bring this up not to support the officers position.. I bring this up because every single person involved, from cops, to witness, to suspect, to even people watching on tv, had their fight / flight response triggered. The situation is perceived differently, depending on the persons reaction, and that reaction is based on a multitude of other factors.


To sum it up....
A person goes from human to Neanderthal in a matter of split seconds.. Fine motor control becomes and issue, forcing the body back to muscle memory / gross motor control (fight or flight)... The body either makes a stand or runs like hell. Its all in for either choice.. there is no middle ground.

Food for thought...

Originally posted by amfirst1
reply to post by captaintyinknots

 

Yea and who told that story??? If I was the cop I can come up with a easy story to cover my tracks.

Which can be confirmed or refuted by the number of cameras recording the event from all angles... As was done in this case.