US Involved in Creation of Chechen Terrorists

There is a lot of information here to go through, I will put out some background first and then expound on all of the different elements involved here, if I can. I'll try at least. This will be a highly convoluted thread most likely, with mountains of information relevant to the topic at hand. But it involves all your regular players and settings, including United States political espionage, media spin, drug running, terrorism activities, and a multitude of puzzle like pieces that if taken together form a stark and very intriguing picture.

Much of this thread will be taken from the reports of Sibel Edmonds. Anyone who has taken the time to look into the story concerning the attacks that took place on September 11, 2001 will most likely be familiar with this woman. Here is a little background for those less versed in such subjects:

Sibel Edmonds

Sibel Deniz Edmonds (born 1970)[1] is an Iranian-American[2] former FBI translator and founder of the National Security Whistleblowers Coalition (NSWBC). Edmonds gained public attention following her firing from her position as a language specialist at the FBI's Washington Field Office in March 2002, after she accused a colleague of covering up illicit activity involving foreign nationals, alleging serious acts of security breaches, cover-ups, and intentional blocking of intelligence which, she contended, presented a danger to the United States' security. Her later claims have gained her awards and fame as a whistleblower.[3] In March 2012, she published a memoir, titled Classified Woman-The Sibel Edmonds Story.[4] Edmonds testified before the 9/11 Commission, but her testimony was excluded from the official 567 page 9/11 Commission Report.[5]

She is a very knowledgeable woman who is quite familiar with the US governments involvement in international events. One of the areas of her expertise, if you will, is the high profile events surrounding Operation Gladio, Turkey, and Chechen terrorism - as well as the involvement of the US government in these operations.

Let's start with an article published by The Guardian out of the UK in 2004.
The Chechens' American friends

...in the US, the leading group which pleads the Chechen cause is the American Committee for Peace in Chechnya (ACPC). The list of the self-styled "distinguished Americans" who are its members is a rollcall of the most prominent neoconservatives who so enthusastically support the "war on terror".

They include Richard Perle, the notorious Pentagon adviser; Elliott Abrams of Iran-Contra fame; Kenneth Adelman, the former US ambassador to the UN who egged on the invasion of Iraq by predicting it would be "a cakewalk"; Midge Decter, biographer of Donald Rumsfeld and a director of the rightwing Heritage Foundation; Frank Gaffney of the militarist Centre for Security Policy; Bruce Jackson, former US military intelligence officer and one-time vice-president of Lockheed Martin, now president of the US Committee on Nato; Michael Ledeen of the American Enterprise Institute, a former admirer of Italian fascism and now a leading proponent of regime change in Iran; and R James Woolsey, the former CIA director who is one of the leading cheerleaders behind George Bush's plans to re-model the Muslim world along pro-US lines.

In August, the ACPC welcomed the award of political asylum in the US, and a US-government funded grant, to Ilyas Akhmadov, foreign minister in the opposition Chechen government, and a man Moscow describes as a terrorist. Coming from both political parties, the ACPC members represent the backbone of the US foreign policy establishment, and their views are indeed those of the US administration.

Familiar names, right? What are they doing awarding political asylum to somebody the Russian government considers a terrorist? This thread is hardly to debate the credibility of Vladmir Putin or Russia in general, we all know they themselves are involved in some shady stuff, but lets focus our attention to the US government, the movers and shakers, and what THEY are doing.

There are many interesting news articles based on events that we should go through, and the common correlation between them all is that all of these events took place in regions that are well known as US allies or members or NATO.

Kremlin hit squad 'assassinate Chechen Islamist in Istanbul'

The triple murder was carried out by a lone gunman in less than thirty seconds using a 9mm pistol fitted with a silencer. It brought the number of Chechens assassinated in the Turkish city in the last four years to at least six. The gunman pumped eleven bullets into the three men in a busy Istanbul street before speeding off in a black getaway car.

One of the murdered men, 33-year-old Berg-Haj Musayev, was said to be close to Doku Umarov, an Islamist terrorist leader who is Russia’s most wanted man. The other two were said to be his bodyguards.

It was Umarov who claimed responsibility for the January suicide bombing of Moscow’s busy Domodedovo airport, an atrocity that left 37 people dead. Musayev’s widow Sehida said she was sure the Russian secret service was behind her husband’s murder, a view echoed by Murat Ozer, head of a Chechen Diaspora group in Istanbul.

Is Edmonds words: How did these notorious Chechen terrorist masterminds and leaders end up in Turkey? Why did all these high-level terrorists choose Turkey? How could they be allowed by the Turkish government to operate and carry out their terror operations from Turkey as their HQ-base?

She asks us to keep these questions in mind as we go through these events.

Russia Hunts Down Chechen Terrorists Abroad

Russian intelligence agents appear to be systematically working off a hit list. When he came into power, Putin, who was president at the time, apparently decided to expand the death zone. “We will pursue the terrorists wherever they go. If we find them in the toilet, we’ll kill them in the outhouse,” the president vowed, and set his agents loose on Chechen rebels and terrorists abroad.

In February 2004, Russian agents with diplomatic passports blew up an SUV carrying Zelimkhan Yandarbiyev, a Chechen rebel commander, in Qatar, where he had been a guest of that country’s emir…
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The attacks were carried out in Arab countries, Azerbaidjan in the southern Caucasus and, in particular, Turkey. In September 2008, the Chechen militant Gaji Edilsultanov was murdered in Istanbul in broad daylight. Three months later, his fellow militant Islam Zhanibekov was killed in an execution-style shooting in front of his wife and children. Russian special-forces units had targeted the Chechen because of his involvement in several terrorist attacks. …

Late last week, there was speculation on Chechen underground websites, as well as in the Russian and Turkish media, that a so-called “Berlin group” may have been involved in the killings. Russian undercover operations have allegedly been directed from the German capital, of all places.

Officially, German authorities have no solid evidence that this is the case. However, they did not fail to notice that more than 1,200 Chechen exiles and Russian intelligence agents are now stalking each other in Berlin. The Germans have also noticed that Umarov’s following is growing. They report dubious flows of cash — including from young men who are leaving Germany to join the holy war in the Caucasus.

...in Qatar
...carried out in Arab countries, Azerbaijan
...in particular, Turkey
...directed from the German capital

Continued in next post.

SUPRISE SUPRISE...Richard Perle was on the board of JINSA before the pentagon, along with CHENEY..

JINSA awarded Chris Kyle an award for his services....

Chris Kyle owned CRAFT.....

CRAFTS JEWISH FRIENDS

And Craft was all over the marathon like a cheap suit. They were a couple of meters from the bomb.

In Edmonds own words, once again: What I want you to specifically take with you from this second article is that: 1- The largest concentrations of these active Chechen terrorists are in (in order): Turkey- A NATO member, Azerbaijan (Almost a NATO Member), Germany (a NATO Member), followed by Dubai- one of the closest US Allies in the Arab States, and Qatar-another very close US ally and partner in the Arab states. 2- Amazingly these notorious ‘Islamist’ terrorists are not present in ‘Islamist’ nations designated as terrorist nations by the United States: Iran, Syria. Of course there are no Chechens terrorist groups in North Korea

After the Moscow Theater Crisis the following report came out after the investigations and follow up:

Chechen terrorists linked with Turkey: Russia

There were earlier reports that Chechen terrorists had made telephone calls to Turkey, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates during the hostage drama. According to reports carried by the Itar-Tass on Tuesday, Russian security intelligence said that they had had indisputable proof that the Chechens had received support and encouragement from these three countries.

The head of Russia’s International Military Co-operation Department, General Anatoli Mazurkeviç, is to meet with a European Parliamentarian Council delegation later on Tuesday and complain of what Russia sees as a double standard in west on combating terrorism.

"The time frame: 2002, and the terrorist and terrorist supporting nations happen to be those outside our nation’s designated axis of evil. No Iraq, Iran or Syria. No Gaddafi-led Libya." Instead, we have phone calls made to Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and UAE. All considered friendly by the US government.

Edmonds asks us to do a little math here.... Main Chechen terror base and HQ in NATO Member and one of the closest US allies in the Middle East (Turkey) + Network Extension in Germany (NATO), Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates (Two closest US Arab Allies and Pawns) + All the major PNAC-Neoconservative members and operators + the CIA.

She then begins to show us the shady dealings of a Turkish construction company. Some of you may have heard of it, but despite my knowledge I had not. The companies name is ENKA.

Another article: Turkish building company denies funding Chechen militants

Moscow, April 23 (RIA Novosti) – Turkish building company ENKA Wednesday rejected claims, made in a documentary program broadcast Tuesday on Russia’s Channel One TV, that it had provided financing in the 1990s to Chechen militants.

“We state that all information regarding our company broadcast April 22 in the Plan Caucasus TV program on Channel One is totally groundless and untrue,” ENKA said. “We deny all such accusations.” ENKA is one of Turkey’s largest construction companies working in Russia.

The claims were made against ENKA in the TV program by Sultan Kekhursayev, now living in Istanbul. He said he had been “[now dead Chechen separatist leader Dzhokhar] Dudayev’s army brigadier general.” Kekhursayev said large Turkish companies working in Russia, including ENKA, funded the seizure of Chechnya’s capital Grozny in the summer 1996, adding that they “had done much” to assist militants.

ENKA, one of the largest building-construction companies in Turkey (also internationally) is one of the top players, top operatives, and top members of a gigantic Turkish-American Lobby organization called the American Turkish Council (ATC).

History Commons - ATC

Now Edmonds claims that she has heard wiretaps indicating that Turkish Embassy targets frequently spoke to staff members at the A.T.C. The wiretaps suggested to her that the Washington office of the A.T.C. was being used as a front for criminal activity. She also claims that ENKA was in fact involved in funding Chechen terrorist groups and much more than that. She says the funding was "channeled via ENKA; not sourced to it." She believes that ENKA was, and still is, one of many Turkish companies "used by the US government, specifically the CIA and the State Department, catering to objectives set by American actors."

Continued in next post.

Vanity Fair - An Inconvenient Patriot

One counter-intelligence official familiar with Edmonds’s case has told Vanity Fair that the F.B.I. opened an investigation into covert activities by Turkish nationals in the late 1990’s…Toward the end of 2001, Edmonds was asked to translate some of the thousands of calls that had been recorded by this operation, some dating back to 1997.

Edmonds sums up her report by offering some more information that should be interesting:

"I believe it would be needless to ask you to add more twos here: FBI wiretaps targeting ATC, ENKA - a major operative and player of ATC, the dates of these files going back to the mid 1990s, our major American neoconservative/NWO players (movers-shakers) supporting Chechen terrorism against Russia, and their support (financing, masterminding, training, etc.) being implemented, in addition to the CIA, by operatives and players in Turkey and NATO. I could talk about various ways of money funneling through middle-men to the hands of the terrorists. Instead of talking and writing about it for hours, I’ll provide you with one example involving companies like ENKA:

Did you know that the US Government has been paying ENKA hundreds of millions of dollars for building US Embassies? You can check it out here at ENKA’s website: US Embassy in Guinea, in Cameroon, in Mali, in Bosnia, in Sarajevo …Now ask yourself: why in the world would our government hire a Turkish company to build embassies for it around the world? My short tenure with the FBI was a real eye-opener with operations like this. This is one way to add to our black budget for our CIA’s black operations. You see, they (the CIA, aka State Department) get middlemen companies such as ENKA (believe me ATC is full of such companies) to quote a price ten or a hundred times more than the actual price. Then, they don’t let any ‘real company’ bid. Then, they get it easily approved (State Department, Congress). A company like ENKA would take a nice profit out of that, and the rest would go to finance our illegal/black operations in, let’s say Central Asia or the Caucasus.

I can assure you, every single main player in our media has known all about this-with documents, credible witnesses, for Pete’s sake through other nations’ news reports! Yet, for all these years, they have played as they’re told by their masters-those powers ruling from behind our visible government: they’ve been consistent in censoring and blacking out the facts in ‘Islamist Terrorism Made in the USA.’ Be my guest. Take this well-documented and sourced information, and comb through our mainstream media’s archives. See what you end up with…other than ‘zilch.’

We Americans, bogged down in a perpetual so-called ‘war on terror,’ waging illegal and unjustified wars globally in the name of that ‘war on terror’ and so-called ‘Islamist terrorists,’ happen to be the world’s biggest mastermind, creator, financier, and supporter of ‘Islamist Terror.’ We used this as our number one method, modus operandi, during the Cold War throughout the Middle East, Northern Africa and the rest of the Muslim world. We made and trained and employed Bin Laden. No, it should be plural. We trained and employed and supported many Bin Ladens around the world. Then, after the Cold War, we continued the trend throughout Central Asia, the Balkans, Caucasus, and Xinjiang. Today we still remain the world’s number one terrorist nation. Either through illegal and unjustified wars of aggression or those blamed on some ‘Islamist Extremists’ which happen to be directly masterminded, instigated, financed and supported by us."


There are many conclusions to be drawn from all this information, and hopefully we can do so in this thread. I'm well aware of the US government (State Dept, CIA, FBI, and others) and their involvement in funding, handling, and creating terrorists - especially of a Muslim decent. I was not aware of their involvement in Chechnya though it undoubtedly makes much sense considering their neighbor and master, Russia. The Cold War may officially be over, but the tactics and espionage has not stopped. And when control and money are to be gained, nothing is off the table for these people.

Here is the link to Edmonds website and her report in which I took most of this information:
BFP Exclusive: US-NATO-Chechen Militia Joint Operations Base

Bumping this thread because it should get much more attention then it has.Many of the names mentioned in these articles should be familiar to people who have followed the intelligence "failures." leading up to 9/11.


PS:Great thread PG s&f!

reply to post by mike dangerously


Thanks for the kind words and the bump, mike D.

I agree that this is important information and well worth the discussion, hopefully we can get one going. Not much luck so far but I'll keep at it. There is much more to this too and I'd love to get peoples take.

Take care

What I took away from the articles is that the political establishment in the US used the Chechen terrorists against Russia pretty much confirming what they have been accusing NATO of doing trying to dis-stabilize and surround them with client states.