When you want to lose ego,..

reply to post by Angle


All you really need to is to be conscious of the ego, to know what it causes, to see it for itself. Knowing what it does lets you separate the thought processes from your own.

You see someone in the street dressed poorly, their clothes are pretty old and even a little dirty.. your ego says "Homeless bum" and you walk on. Minus the ego, you may notice the hospital wristband and the marks from repeated chemotherapy... the poor guy may spending every cent he has on cancer treatments.

Dualism, is "us and them", "you" and the "bum". Are you really different when it comes down do it? Or are your egos different, because your lives are different?

Is it truly fair to judge one through the eyes of your ego? Or should you give him a chance? Maybe you have some old clothes you don't need anymore...

At the end of that day, the ego could have made the difference between helping the poor guy, or judging him as an unworthy bum, like everyone else did.

Originally posted by Angle
reply to post by Itisnowagain

 

What is it that just sees and hears?

A: that which ego wants to control.

Seeing is just happening all by itself.
The ego gets in the way - it is like a frosty lens covering the seeing.
Is it possible for you to see without words?

reply to post by LilFox


Yes, dualism, us and them. But when a group of 4 friends make two groups of two, they still are 4 FRIENDS.

Us and them doesn't mean therefore two groups against eachother, having bad feelings towards eachother.

reply to post by LilFox


the moment you judge one because of ego you are not aware, and not aware of it.

It's afterwards one realises one did it. But we should not judge ourselves because of that, because when you gained awareness again, everything you do and say is alright again. (Read this well)

In becoming aware again, in the awareness lies unconditional love and forever forgiveness.

It is the being which is undistortable, unaltered, perfect, unchangeable.

Figure out isisnowagain if you can. When he persists, he's doing well! He is love-compatible, just as you are Lilfox. You are it, do not get yourself down because of having been thinking of faults in the past, you don't need to judge. You are perfect as you are. Allow yourself the good feeling you are in possession of. You are so worthy of my care.

reply to post by Angle


True. And you know your friends, mostly. You hold beliefs regarding your friends too, maybe one is a little too fat, another drinks a bit too much.. but you love them anyway and is great. The ego ensures you can not know them for who they are, for your view is "adjusted". No ego? They won't be able to anger you in error (unless you let them), they cannot oppose you in dualism, in any way.

Dualism goes both ways, of course. Ever had a cute girl get served in a retail environment before you, merely because of her looks? To her, that was positive, you negative.
There are also educated choices. Working in IT, I will not recommend acer computers nor buy them for clients, I am however open to the fact that perhaps one day they will improve.

At the end of the day, whether dualism is positive or negative, it sits inbetween you and the truth, no matter how beautiful or ugly it is.

You can observe your ego doing it.. the thought process runs parallel to your own, Yesterday, someone was trying to anger me. I felt my ego want to get riled up and snap back, instead I told him to go away and blocked him. Problem solved. The ego was there, observed, it did not control me.

For the guy to get me angry, I needed to have a certain standpoint, I had to be dualistic and oppose him. I chose not to.

Originally posted by Angle
reply to post by LilFox

 

the moment you judge one because of ego you are not aware, and not aware of it.

It's afterwards one realises one did it. But we should not judge ourselves because of that, because when you gained awareness again, everything you do and say is alright again. (Read this well)

Words and thoughts appear. Those beliefs are seen and laughed at. Thoughts can be a great source of amusement.
The sky sees the cloud with words in them and the cloud passes by.
You are the sky - ever fresh.

Never think for one moment that the little clouds with words in them will never appear again and never think that it anything about you. You did not put the cloud there - there are no good clouds or no bad clouds - they are just weather.
You are the sky and the sky is never effected by any cloud.

reply to post by Itisnowagain


I understand very clear now, thank you very very much IINA.

I want to care for you but you seem above me, not meaning I cannot care for you. Thank you It Is Now Again....
I'd give you a very warm caring hug Lilfox. I could get a real nice warm sensation of you.



"Be a man Lilfox"

Originally posted by Angle


Figure out isisnowagain if you can.

If you are trying to 'figure' me out then I ask - for what reason?

reply to post by Itisnowagain


I must keep that very clear in my mind. That is of great value for a prosperous life.

reply to post by Itisnowagain


That is meant towards ego, and you know what it does.

reply to post by LilFox


I like your avatar, I hope these conversations change it into a brighter shade of pink/purple.

Originally posted by Angle
reply to post by Itisnowagain

 

That is meant towards ego, and you know what it does.

What are you talking about?

Originally posted by Angle
reply to post by Itisnowagain

 

"Be a man Lilfox"

Too happy being myself, and a woman


Ok, this may be uncomfortable, I am actually sure it will be, so do not continue if you so desire.

Keeping your ego where it is, at the back of your consciousness.. keeping your wits about you, remembering that the past is just that and it does not control you anymore.. think back.

Remember something that really angered you, maybe a friend said something that truly upset you. Really hurt.

Now why did it hurt, feel it, relive it. But, see it before you. Don't let it "in".

Stop and take a deep breath, remember, your conscious is now, your emotions are clear, there is that warm inside you that comes from a still, calm, serene mind.

But you can see it still, cant you? But it just doesn't hurt anymore, does it? Sure, they said something, but their ego was speaking, they were upset, so were you, but it was only your ego.

They are friends, your ego is not.

I am sorry for any discomfort that may have been caused.. I have been picking through my life facing my past, with fresh eyes.

The ego will always be there, you have a past, it is inevitable. However, your consciousness can always stay with the now. Sometimes it will be difficult, those little clouds will appear, but you need not entertain them, see them, see them off. Good riddance to bad dualism.

reply to post by Itisnowagain


I try to figure out what you say, and I seem to succeed, if only receiving a glimpse because of the veil being lifted, but it plants a seed in me, so I will come to understand. But I figured out what you said. It's all going well.

Do you realise my input, that the sky can be aware on beforehand that a cloud will be formed (in this equation)
So when it is empty it senses there will come another cloud.

Originally posted by rickymouse

Originally posted by LittleByLittle

Originally posted by rickymouse
I think Ego is bad. Confidence in the truth is very good but confidence in untruth is bad. Ego seperates people while confidence helps to bond people together. This is a very complex subject because it deals a lot with underlying belief which differs between every person I know. Varying Motives are always involved in this.

Overactive ego yes. But an underactivated ego is not good either since it enslaves you to others. Even after an egodeath the ego is reborn bit a little different. The middle way is the answer with an openminded ego in a state of flux that can be what it wants to experiance differences. It is all about finding a symbiotic state.

I think you may be thinking of Ego as confidence, they are not the same thing. If you are not confident, you are not achieving what you should. Certain people in society try to make others confidence weak, then they can control them. If you are confident, you can achieve success but usually it is a slow and steady growth. If you are overconfident, you rise quickly and come slamming back down when your supporters abandon you or someone within your ranks overthrows you because of your lack of awareness that comes with overconfidence.

An Overzealous Ego is when you get proud of your knowledge or achievements which makes you feel you are better than those who helped to create you. These people use Ad Hominum techniques to suppress those who challenge them. These people make lots of mistakes and take risk with other people's money to make themselves a few bucks. They usually do not tell the whole truth or do not investigate things more than they are required to so they cannot be held accountable. Laws protect these people, they were designed by them.

The Ego is a separation from what is you and what is everything else. Where what is thought of as you and what is everything else is not the same for everybody and can depend one different times. Some times you think of you as your team, country or other grouping.

If you wanna play with taking the ego apart further then you can think of them as Id, ego and super-ego.

Id, ego and super-ego are the three parts of the psychic apparatus defined in Sigmund Freud's structural model of the psyche; they are the three theoretical constructs in terms of whose activity and interaction mental life is described. According to this model of the psyche, the id is the set of uncoordinated instinctual trends; the super-ego plays the critical and moralizing role; and the ego is the organized, realistic part that mediates between the desires of the id and the super-ego.[1] The super-ego can stop you from doing certain things that your id may want you to do.[2]

en.wikipedia.org...

Where id is what you want and desires that should be controlled by the ego to not harm others when the id wants things and the super-ego thinks that it is not something that should be allowed on moral ideals.

The ego can both be an aggressive thing or a defensive thing. If you live in a world with lesser id and higher morals in a world where everybody else have strong id and not moral then you will not fit in and be misused and manipulated by the people around you. The ego defense is not a good or bad thing but ego aggressive can be (but there are times when it is very usefull).

Originally posted by Angle
reply to post by Itisnowagain

 

Do you realise my input, that the sky can be aware on beforehand that a cloud will be formed (in this equation)
So when it is empty it senses there will come another cloud.

No - the sky has no concern for 'what is next' or 'what is before' because it is ever present.
It has no concern - it is peace itself.

It is never empty - it is full of 'what is'.
Emptiness is form.

When one keeps on resisting ego, it will flee from you. Do not judge yourself because of ego wanting to grasp you, there's even no need to it. It is not your fault.

Do you figure?

reply to post by Itisnowagain


Ok, we are different skies. Skies with different talents. You are perfect as you are.

reply to post by LittleByLittle


I can say Freud had insight in the psyche. Thank you for contributing.