Boston bombing: How internet detectives got it very wrong

reply to post by CyningSaeward


I am of the opinion that the mentality that believes that anything they don't like should have a law against it is not only the best reason for me to remain armed, but also represents the smallest intellects AND largest cowards on the planet.

Knives are sharp. We need to pass a law to nerf coat their edge.

reply to post by CyningSaeward

Originally posted by CyningSaeward
So now the BBC is asking (calling) for internet detectives to be banned (not sure how this is possible.)

Can you quote the excerpt of where the BBC is asking for internet detectives to be banned?

Even if the "internet detectives" were right. They're still going to be wrong. They have to be. If they were right, it would lend credence to the idea of a properly informed and educated public. Can't have that, can we?

Secondly, we need to factor in the "professional internet detectives". You know, the ones paid to post outrageous and outlandish ideas, so all "internet detectives" look bat**** crazy?

Of course there are no such people, the "internet detectives" do a fine job of looking crazy all by themselves, right? There may be some truth to that, but they have plenty of help imho.

S&F.

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
reply to post by CyningSaeward

 

Originally posted by CyningSaeward
So now the BBC is asking (calling) for internet detectives to be banned (not sure how this is possible.)

Can you quote the excerpt of where the BBC is asking for internet detectives to be banned?

It isn't specifically, but it is clear what stance the journalist is taking from the wording of the article and with the fact that it doesn't mention anything these 'internet detectives' got right.

Originally posted by 2ndFUTURE
I think the dude they have in a photo of "the track coach" standing on the exact spot that the bomb went off is enough evidence for me. Even more damage to the story is the photo without his backpack, arms folded in front that seemed to get erased from the internet which I grabbed before it did.

I have to agree with you about this photo. suspects should be 1: People who had black back packs before blast but not after.
Now for the questions.
1: why are all the photos not marked with a time stamp, and location.
2: Many scenes are mixed together from bomb blast 1 and 2. The only way i can tell them apart is by the paving being different between the two.
3: Why not show the "Evidence" of the perp putting the pack down? That would defiantly ID the perp.
4: Just like Lee Harvy, how did they get the names so quickly?
5: Who gave them the names of these two? And again, why?
6: The late night shootout is overtly suspicious.

Where did this guys back pack go???????????

Originally posted by CyningSaeward
It isn't specifically, but it is clear what stance the journalist is taking from the wording of the article and with the fact that it doesn't mention anything these 'internet detectives' got right.

I think if the journalist wanted to say that, he would have done.

Don't forget, the BBC relies - as do all journalists - heavily on the public.

But the simple fact is that, while folks believe they are doing the right thing some go too far, and start taking personal actions against those who aren't verified as suspects - the Saudi guy who was picked out at first has had death threats - and all he was doing was being treated for the wounds he recieved in the blasts, and there are all kinds of vile assumptions and comments being made about the ethnicity of the bombers, their religious beliefs and god knows what else - all without basis at all because at the moment the story is not known.

I don't see a problem with people coordinating efforts to find people, but the net is judge, jury and executioner it seems, and mob justice may well become rife. When that happens, there's a problem.

Originally posted by neformore
, and there are all kinds of vile assumptions and comments being made about the ethnicity of the bombers, their religious beliefs and god knows what else - all without basis at all because at the moment the story is not known.

Well no one was jumping to the defence of white gun owners when it was originally tried to be pinned on them.

www.salon.com...

Why this link above doesn't count as racist I don't know.

But yes, peoples right to a trial should be upheld and respected which is why the current laws we have (i.e libel) exist. We don't need more laws or restrictions, everything we need is already in place.

Originally posted by AmberLeaf
The internet is a powerful thing, and conspiracy tards spreading mis info for their own personal gain is just wrong!

When it gets to the point that innocent people are fearing for their life i think something has to be done to stop it, imagine if it was you or a member of your family. There are plenty of sick twisted nutters on the internet willing to do anything to prove a point or gain fame and notoriety. Its only a matter of time before someone is killed or seriously injured because of someones internet claims.

If you spread lies about someone (deformation of character) you should be punished as it can effect their lives profoundly. If someone takes their life because of a lie attached to their name online the people spreading it should be held accountable.

Not one innocent will ever be hurt because folks on the net point the blame at them, they will be hurt because some psycho doesn't know how to control themselves.

This is the idiot logic used to justify taking peoples rights away.

It is not peoples fault for trying to help, it is a psychos fault for trying to dispense justice without all the facts.

At least point the blame where it lies, it isn't the informer or accusers fault ever, it is the psycho that tries to enforce justice without a trial.

I will not ever under any situation give up my rights to claim what I think to be the truth, in the name of a psycho not committing a crime, let them pass such an asinine law, I will be the first to break it.

reply to post by inverslyproportional


Absolutely, I'm fed up with society continuously making laws to suit the lowest denominator of common sense.

Originally posted by CyningSaeward
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Absolutely, I'm fed up with society continuously making laws to suit the lowest denominator of common sense.

Exactly, it doesn't take a genius to realise that laws won't stop idiots and criminals from being idiots and criminals, it will only ever make law abiders into law breakers because of the obserdity of them losing rights, in the name of appeasing idiots and criminals, like that will ever stop them from being afor mentioned idiots and criminals.

Cmon people use your heads, once a right is gone it isn't ever coming back, and what once was done in good faith, is tommorrows tragedy.

Limit free expression to try and stop psychos, and then the right to say anything except what they approve you to say. Period.

I think the bombings were real in that people died and many were injured. The real question is who did it and why? Looking at the big picture of sensationalism by the media, the local authorities over-reacting to the situation, the incompetance of the police, etc it all points to a false flag operation done by professional mercenaries to achieve a fear agenda that compliments the school shooting tragedies.

I have learned to analyse for myself and while I cannot be certain about this, my gut tells me I am not wrong.

There is an nwo agenda! Create enough fear so that the populace willingly complies. All based ON LIES!

reply to post by CyningSaeward

So except from a few people who were pictured and speculated about being the culprit, mostly people working on this from home have been correct. The police in Boston even had to accept that the two brothers they have now recently been in a shoot out with were in fact the suspects they were looking for.

How do you figure that people at home were mostly correct? They weren't remotely close. No one, not 4chan, Alex Jones, Reddit etc had pointed out the two men that the FBI did. It is extremely dangerous for the people that were pointed out now, especially since that pig Alex Jones probably will not let this go.

Can such internet sleuthing be stopped or should it be? I don't see a way to do that without treading on the 1st amendment, but people should definitely eat some humble pie on this and maybe think about the fact that someone's life, privacy and safety should come before their own ego.

reply to post by Kali74


You have way too much faith in the democrats and the american government in general. Fact is everything about the bombings was handled wrong. You don't lock down an entire city unless there is a damm good reason to do so. 1,2,3 terror suspects on the loose fails to qualify horribly! The incompetance of the police speaks for itself as well as the sensationalism created by the media.

reply to post by Danbones


If this was staged then what about all the people who are being operated on and some of which have servre trauma wounds. I realise some aspects of a bomb scene could be staged, but those who are being received into the public hospital for trauma surgery, how could that be staged?

Originally posted by AthlonSavage
reply to post by Danbones

 

If this was staged then what about all the people who are being operated on and some of which have servre trauma wounds. I realise some aspects of a bomb scene could be staged, but those who are being received into the public hospital for trauma surgery, how could that be staged?

Of course the bombings were real, but who did them? Was it really a few crazy muslims or was it professional mercenaries? Was it Craft International? Who has the most to gain by adding MORE FEAR to the climate of gun paranoia?

Even if muslims were involved we have given them every motive to seek revenge on american soil after the 9-11 false flag terror events unfolded. The democrats should have called out the republicans on this many years ago except we see cowards like bill clinton covering up for them in an effort to downplay mass murder. It is outrageous # you might expect from some third world #hole(pardon my french)nation like uganda or afghanistan, not in america.

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
reply to post by Kali74

 

You have way too much faith in the democrats and the american government in general. Fact is everything about the bombings was handled wrong. You don't lock down an entire city unless there is a damm good reason to do so. 1,2,3 terror suspects on the loose fails to qualify horribly! The incompetance of the police speaks for itself as well as the sensationalism created by the media.

You like to throw the word democrat at me like it's an insult and paint me as pro-government, if you're going to insist on personal attacks maybe you should read my post history, not that I would expect an Alex Jones fan to do actual research...

I'm a registered Independent and voted for Gary Johnson and I actively protest much of government policy. That doesn't mean I have to live in la-la land and jump on every conspiracy that comes along or adopt an all or nothing attitude toward everything. Not everything is an NWO plot.

Fact is everything about the bombings was handled correctly.

There was a damn good reason to ask people to stay home and shut down public transportation and go door to door in the neighborhood they last saw the suspect in. He could have entered into someones home and taken hostages.

The incompetence of police, are you kidding me!? The bombings happened Monday, the suspects caught or killed by Friday.

My anti-authoritarian nature doesn't cloud my judgement nor get in the way of acknowledging when things go right, and in this case they did... and I'm grateful to Law Enforcement and Government Officials who did what needed to be done in this situation.

They only want to stop crowd sourced investigations because they are a threat to TPTB. They don't like the idea of people all over the world banding together and investigating big events, because we might end up lifting the rug and seeing the proverbial pile of dirt.

Actually, the internet was remarkably close, right down to finding islamic suspects, one in a white hat. If the public had the same evidence (surveillance vids) they probably would have fingered the suspects faster than did the FBI, and located them faster.

To all the PC poo poo'ers, once again it was wise to focus on an islamic connection. Common sense.

Originally posted by Danbones
though i saw this general thing and got blasted for suggesting it wendsday
please all credit to MYKAH

actually, I see nothing in those pictures that you are describing, this was seconds after the blast, all I see is the white bone that is left from the blown off leg, and signaling? you get that from a hand in the air...and the woman looking directly at the hoody guy? there is nothing on those photos that indicates that....and the woman blocking the view on purpose? you sir, have a wild imagination.

I am replying to the post written by Mykah with different pics and frames. Honestly i don't believe Mykah is a doctor. I am certainly not one and i don't know much about arteries but i do know wounded people don't bleed like in the movies with blood all over the place.

If you google 'legs blown off' there are hundreds of images and two of them caught my eye which are real and in contrast with what Mykah has written about leg injuries. There is an Iranian suicide bomber in Bangkok with almost the same injuries and not a lot of blood except on the floor. There is also a small middle eastern child in a hospital and his flesh is also hanging from the bone without blood dripping and besides the bloody wound there is no blood at all.

This is not me saying the victim in the wheelchair is not an actor it is just me finding it strange how a 'doctor' describes blown off legs differently than we can see in many pictures.