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The only question remaining re: the brothers Tsarnaev.

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posted on Apr, 19 2013 @ 03:13 PM
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The only question remaining is - were they "handled" by any group or organization whether foreign, or, domestic.

Yes there was a security contractor at the site of the Boston Marathon, not entirely outside the realm of ordinary, even one employing ex-military operatives.

But what or who if anyone motivated these guys, who were otherwise relatively normal young people. They weren't outwardly Islamic in any way and the one guy (the one still alive) was a serious pot smoker and student who at one time aspired to be a lifeguard.

Did they simply conspire among themselves, or were they influenced in any way, that's the question and the only one remaining in my mind.

If they were working by themselves and nothing more than down goes the false flag theory of Alex Jones that he's been so giddy about, but if there's an outside influence identified, the finger will surely point "outside" and to some sort of foreign al Queda influence, in which case it would be fair to assume that the CIA was also involved at some level and that therefore it was no coincidence that the security firm was present as if by anticipation.

Just my two cents for whatever it's worth re: the prospect of a Conspiracy of some sort.

Best Regards,

NAM



posted on Apr, 19 2013 @ 03:15 PM
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reply to post by NewAgeMan
 

Not for nothin but, that hardly the "only question remaining".

The whole thing stinks from beginning to end.



posted on Apr, 19 2013 @ 03:16 PM
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What people aren't asking is why on Earth they would ever consider it to be a good idea to try and rob a shop on the doorstep within a mile or two from where they supposedly let off bomb a few days earlier, and if they did genuinely try a full-retard move of robbing that store, how did the police know straight away who they were and that they were also the bomb suspects?



posted on Apr, 19 2013 @ 03:19 PM
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Originally posted by gladtobehere
reply to post by NewAgeMan
 

Not for nothin but, that hardly the "only question remaining".

The whole thing stinks from beginning to end.


I was going on the basis that they were throwing explosive out of the car at the cops, killed a cop, robbed a store, etc.

I don't think it's all made up.

As to robbing a store (dead giveaway), I guess they were low on dough and needed cash to try to make a getaway.

They've got the right people in other words and so that's what I mean by "the only question remaining"..

Regards,

NAM



posted on Apr, 19 2013 @ 03:21 PM
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Put yourself in their position. Would you really waste time and risk getting caught for cash in their situation? No! You'd get out of there as quickly as possible money or no money, even on foot if you had to.



posted on Apr, 19 2013 @ 03:23 PM
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Uncle calls Boston Marathon bombers 'losers,' urges nephew to surrender


(CNN) -- Ruslan Tsarni angrily condemned the alleged actions of his two nephews -- the two brothers suspected in the Boston Marathon bombings -- and after calling the bombers "losers," the uncle urged the surviving nephew to turn himself in immediately.

"If you're alive, turn yourself in and ask for forgiveness from the victims," Tsarni said in front of reporters in a news conference outside his Montgomery County, Maryland, home.

Dzhokar Tsarnaev, 19, is the subject of a massive police dragnet in the Boston area. His brother, Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26, died after an overnight shootout with police.

The brothers come from an ethnic Chechen Muslim family, and Tsarni said the two nephews brought shame to his brother's family. The nephews are sons of Tsarni's brother, and Tsarni last saw his nephews in December 2005.

"You put a shame on our entire family -- the Tsarnaev family -- and you put a shame on the entire Chechen ethnicity," Tsarni said.
When asked what provoked the bombing suspects, the uncle stated: "Being losers, hatred to those who were able to settle themselves -- these are the only reasons I can imagine.

"Anything else, anything else to do with religion, with Islam, is a fraud, is a fake," Tsarni said.

"Somebody radicalized them, but it's not my brother who just moved back to Russia, who spent his life bringing bread to their table, fixing cars. He didn't have time or chance or anything, options. He's been working," Tsarni said.

Tsarni says he teaches his own children to love the United States because it gives a chance to everyone "to be treated as a human being."

He spoke to reporters because he wanted to express condolences to the Boston Marathon bombing victims and their families, he said. Two blasts Monday killed three people and injured more than 100 gathered at the home stretch and finish line.

"We share with them their grief," Tsarni said. "I'm ready just to meet with them. I'm ready just to bend in front of them, to kneel in front of them seeking their forgiveness."

www.cnn.com...


Put smoking losers who blamed everyone else (for living a happy and successful life), or, radicalized, which is it?

It will be interesting to see how the establishment and establishment media responds to this as things develop.


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posted on Apr, 19 2013 @ 03:25 PM
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Theres a similarity between the Aurora, SH, & BM shooters.

All three of them look eerily alike in some ways!



posted on Apr, 19 2013 @ 03:27 PM
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Other question, wasn't there originally more then 2 bombs ? Didn't they do a controlled detonation of 2 others? If that's so, did the 2 brothers have 2 backpacks each originally? No way.....



posted on Apr, 19 2013 @ 03:28 PM
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reply to post by tropic
 

You're projecting.

The other two had a rather stunned look.

Pretty much everyone looks a little stunned I think. Go take a look in the mirror.


Should YOU be a suspect? JK!



posted on Apr, 19 2013 @ 03:30 PM
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Yea that's true, there were supposed to have been multiple devices beyond the two that went off that was clearly reported at the beginning, and on radio chatter, but it could have been erroneous reporting..



posted on Apr, 19 2013 @ 03:30 PM
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This article raises some good questions:

jamestownfoundation.blogspot.com...

Something isn't quite right. I'm not sure exactly what it is....if these 2 did it, I think there were more than these 2.



posted on Apr, 19 2013 @ 03:30 PM
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Originally posted by gladtobehere

Not for nothin but, that hardly the "only question remaining".

The whole thing stinks from beginning to end.


It will take a few days at least for the true facts to emerge. At the moment the UK press is reporting that the brothers were radical Muslims engaged in Jihad.

Slain Boston bomber had Muslim convert wife and 3-year-old daughter but had 'dedicated' his life to Jihad


edit on 19-4-2013 by ollncasino because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 19 2013 @ 03:32 PM
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The father in Russia said his sons were framed. So does one aunt.
Where's the evidence before this one on the loose is killed?

Are there any scanners working? The one I was using lost the stream.



posted on Apr, 19 2013 @ 03:32 PM
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So that's the narrative.. radical Muslims. Then WHO radicalized them?

Or was that just their excuse.

How the UK media KNOW this?



posted on Apr, 19 2013 @ 03:34 PM
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The BBC does come out with some #. The news agencies would be better off not saying anything until tomorrow when they can clear up all their stories and get something which is believable lol.



posted on Apr, 19 2013 @ 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by violet
The father in Russia said his sons were framed. So does one aunt.
Where's the evidence before this one on the loose is killed?

Father Of Boston Suspects: US Security Services Set Up My Sons



Steve Watson
Prison Planet.com
April 19, 2013
The father of the two suspects in the Boston bombing, Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, has told Russian and Western media that he believes his sons have been framed by US intelligence.

A report from the Russian agency Interfax says that a correspondent spoke with Anzor Tsarnaev, who resides in the southern Russian republic of Dagestan.

From the Interfax report:

“I learned about the incident from TV. My opinion is: the special services have framed my children, because they are practicing Muslims. Why did they kill Tamerlan? He was supposed to be caught alive. The younger is on the run now. He was a sophomore at a medical school in the U.S. We expected him to come home for vacation. Now I don’t know what’s going to happen. Tell you once again: I believe special services have framed my children.”
Reports on Twitter also claim that Anzor has said that “all hell will break loose,” if his remaining son, who is currently on the run in a suburb of Boston, is killed.

This article was posted: Friday, April 19, 2013 at 12:55 pm
www.prisonplanet.com...



posted on Apr, 19 2013 @ 03:36 PM
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Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by gladtobehere

Not for nothin but, that hardly the "only question remaining".

The whole thing stinks from beginning to end.

It will take a few days at least for the true facts to emerge. At the moment the UK press is reporting that the brothers were radical Muslims engaged in Jihad.

Slain Boston bomber had Muslim convert wife and 3-year-old daughter but had 'dedicated' his life to Jihad


'I like the USA': Slain Boston bomber was promising Golden Gloves boxer who turned to radical Islam after failing to fit in even after becoming US citizen
Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26, was shot dead during a gunfight with police Thursday

  • Had videos dedicated to terrorism and Jihad on his YouTube channel
  • Said in 2010 he has 'a single American friend' and he doesn't 'understand' Americans
  • Studied accounting as part-time student at Bunker Hill Community College
  • Police on the hunt for his younger brother, 19-year-old Dzhokhar Tsarnaev
  • Tsarnaev family came to the US in 2003 as refugees, and Tamerlan became a permanent resident in 2007
  • Tamerlan became US citizen on September 11, 2012 - 11th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks
  • Aunt said he was a married father of 3-year-old daughter named Zahara


Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk... lized-Islamist.html#ixzz2QwZG6gWG
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook


edit on 19-4-2013 by NewAgeMan because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 19 2013 @ 03:37 PM
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ok what I dont understand is how can one kid, young man hold off 200 MILITARY Gunmen??? This stinks so bad. we have some kid leaving bomb bread crumbs all over mass. and no one has seen him? wow, find this hard to believe MSM. I smell patsys, fall guys. who is really behind all of this? This is all way to elaborate for 2 rogue college students.
well just my rant.. /off



posted on Apr, 19 2013 @ 03:39 PM
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You're assuming. He could simply be hiding in a cubby hole somewhere, armed with nothing but Doritos and some cash from the 7-11 he robbed.



posted on Apr, 19 2013 @ 03:40 PM
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Originally posted by NewAgeMan
So that's the narrative.. radical Muslims. Then WHO radicalized them?

Or was that just their excuse.

How the UK media KNOW this?


I take it you didn't read the article...


Although most of the clips in the channel are ordinary music videos, among the songs was one called 'I will dedicate my life to Jihad'

Link


Of course it could mean nothing. Still, it must have been a catchy tune to save it on his Youtube channel.




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