Physicists To Test If Universe Is A Computer Simulation

If the universe is a computer simulation, then I bet the Devil is inside the Earth server. The only Utopia is in our imaginations, then you open the blinds and carefully witness the chaos and destruction outside of your windows. Soon to come...to a state near you.

reply to post by IngolfStern

My apologies but I've seen your exact citations before written in defense of reality being actually based off of code from the actual reality--right down to mentioning the saints. I don't know if you're aware of that. Read Operations of Increasing Order by John C. Gowan. You may find yourself there. Gowan was in an interesting position of both being heavily inspired by quantum physics and in a key figure in charge of the education of a particular subset of children in the US. Do you also consider time to be a man-made construct and therefore, malleable? Or how about the interconnectedness of everything? Just wondering if you're one of Gowan's children. He cites Huxley, the Hindu, and the saints in defense of a simulated reality.

"There are many more children than roses, and they are much more important. Do some of them have talents and potential in exotic abilities which we do not even understand, and so cannot begin to stimulate? The gardener has produced a domesticated rose much bigger and more beautiful than the wild variety; could we do the same with children? But who will be the gardener for humanity? What are the talents of man? Are we sure we know them all? What if any are the boundaries of his abilities? Or are they as evanescent as was the limit of the four minute mile? What might we accomplish if we truly educated our children for the maximization of all talents which they possess? Operations of Increasing Order, John C. Gowan

Originally posted by spirit_horse
I just hope some virus or mal-ware doesn't hit the platform running our simulation. It could get real ugly for us inside of it. We could end up splattered all over the other alternate universes running on the same platform.

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I have been walking around for the last few days and big windows keep popping up in front of me congratulating me for being the 1,000,000th visitor. Now it all makes sense.

Originally posted by Char-Lee
reply to post by OGOldGreg

 

If such a concept turned out to be reality, it would raise other possibilities as well. For example, Davoudi suggests that if our universe is a simulation, then those running it could be running other simulations as well, essentially creating other universes parallel to our own. “Then the question is, ‘Can you communicate with those other universes if they are running on the same platform?’” she said.

The better question to me,would be can we manipulate the simulation and make our circumstance better. Is anyone keeping track of it and would they let us interfer, change the program.

Would that make us a virus program....eek !

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Thank you I looked it up My Big TOE trilogy . I love reading such things, they don't have it on Kindle so have to get the book.

Originally posted by current93

Originally posted by Char-Lee
reply to post by OGOldGreg

 

If such a concept turned out to be reality, it would raise other possibilities as well. For example, Davoudi suggests that if our universe is a simulation, then those running it could be running other simulations as well, essentially creating other universes parallel to our own. “Then the question is, ‘Can you communicate with those other universes if they are running on the same platform?’” she said.

The better question to me,would be can we manipulate the simulation and make our circumstance better. Is anyone keeping track of it and would they let us interfer, change the program.

Would that make us a virus program....eek !

Such fun to think about! Yet my mind can never completely accept the possibilities.

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As much as I'd like to be able to answer that, neither myself nor anyone else can answer that question for various reasons. Mostly because of the fact that we haven't yet even concluded that there is a computer at all that is in fact running a simulated reality. In fact the whole simulation argument hasn't as of yet brought forth any answers. Just questions and really fun ideas to ponder.

Were you wanting to speculate on where the computer would be??

read error_b

Fact is - yes, we are living in a computed reality. The thing is - it is an evolved simulation and it contains a free-will switch, so there is a lot of randomness in it. It is non-deterministic, in other words, because of the free will aspect.

reply to post by IngolfStern


Interesting post, and I, too, am familiar with both the literature and concepts you reference. However, and especially viewed from a "computational" perspective, randomness has its own pattern within that world of 0's and 1's. Therefore, once patterns are computed, establish, then it becomes more and more possible and likely to arrange them, and randomness exists because most of us don't have the processors capable of extrapolating that far. In this case, the "free will switch" you speak of, is akin to religion in the current accepted paradigm; in other words, for many, just a reassurance factor and a way of making you feel you still have some control within that "matrix" like setting.

Kinda creepy to think every time you are intimate you could be somebody else's internet porn.

Originally posted by OGOldGreg
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Title pretty much speaks for itself. These kinds of things kind of make my head hurt to be perfectly honest. I find it hard to believe we could actually live in 'The Matrix'. And I almost find it harder to believe that people get paid(and probably paid well) to research such things. I'd be okay with that job.

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that makes us a virus then as we are killing our planet

maryhinge

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Interesting stuff, Can't really say its out of the realms of possibility either, each time someone plays a videogame who's to say there not controlling someone for real in another place in time, or creating real life when they play the sims. If they end up being able to do it in the future well then its even more likely that we are a computer simulated universe. We have no idea how black space even came into being so nothings really impossible

I don't know if this has been written yet...

But what if we are the virus in the computer simulation?
That this computer simulation was Mother-Nature in all her glory and beauty...
And humanity, the virus.

Humanity can be compared to cock roaches...
It's like cock roaches infesting a beautiful home.

Originally posted by FraternitasSaturni
good. as long as he doesnt crash this crap... its all good.

Crash it!

What a complete waste of time,effort and money in my opinion.

Shouldn't these highly paid scientists be putting their energy into solving the many social or environmental problems we face at the moment around the globe rather than trying to undermine or diminish the value of the human experience we share in this reality we call "Life"?

Originally posted by MisterMiyagi
What a complete waste of time,effort and money in my opinion.

Shouldn't these highly paid scientists be putting their energy into solving the many social or environmental problems we face at the moment around the globe rather than trying to undermine or diminish the value of the human experience we share in this reality we call "Life"?

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Boy, you're just loaded with good cheer and the spirit of adventure.

There are plenty of people pursuing the old rancid. Let's face it. Traditional problems bore the pants off most people with a brain.

But if they do find we are a simulation, how do we know we are not a simulation in a real world?

Movie: "The Thirteenth Floor" just that scenario.

If they find we are, we will never know.

Surely all this proves is the precision with which we build computers is so precise they are almost able to mimic the precise and complex workings that also govern the laws of the universe itself?

Not the other way around.

Oh look the the sky is blue, I painted something blue, EUREKA!, the sky is a painting!!!

.....so,. If the universe is a simulation, then debt does not exist! Neither does all the useless crap I bought.
Excellent, here I thought bankruptcy was the only alternative.