Tinfoilers - Is there anything which happens in the world that the US government is not responsible

To you tinfoilers, does anything ever "just happen"? I mean, has it ever happened that a psychopath has picked up a gun and shot a room of people without him being a MK Ultra experiment as part of a gun-grabbing agenda? Has an earthquake ever hit a city that wasn't caused by HARRP?

Did anyone ever just shoot a president being they didn't like him?

Do thousands of scientists and engineers really spend years of their life sending cameras to distant planets so they can photo shop mice out of all the frames and never tell a soul ever?

Do "illuminati banksters" really pour gallons of toxic chemical out of airplanes over cities (which you conveniently forget, they and their families also live and breath in) as method of population control, or are you ready to listen to actual contrail science rather than your limited assumptions over pictures you've seen with no real knowledge to understand or youtube videos?

Do wars ever take place without "Rothschild Globalist Agenda"?

Is there a single good doctor in the entire world who didn't set fire to their Hippocratic oath as soon as they got out of medschool in order to poison their own children with vaccines and prescribe treatments they know that don't work to their own loved ones?

Did you know eating 600 bananas exposes you to more radiation than a chest x-ray?

According to ATS, we can literally tick off every negative event in the last 100 years, and say that it was the US.

I could literally make a Billy Joel remix on the ridiculous number of things I've seen personally attributed to the covert actions of the USA or one of its affiliate government agencies.

From the French Revolution to both world wars, Titanic, Chinese war of 46, Korean war, Diana, Ural meteorites, AIDS, the discredited BS about vaccines and autism, Alzheimers, chemtrails, obesity, GMO's supposedly being evil, global warming, earthquakes, tornadoes, aliens, space rodents on Mars, tsunamis, Fukishima, Spanish Flu, 9/11, 7/7, Boston, every shooting which appears on the news which has ever happened ever.

In fact, the only time the USA doesn't appear be to be this omnipotent master of all evil which is happy to go to any end to achieve its goals is when I suggest that you couldn't win a civil war against it like I did here.

So really, I am interested. In your own opinion. Out of all the crazy stuff the US gets accused of actually doing here. What of it do you believe they did not do?

More specifically- it's Bush's fault.

reply to post by micmerci

South Park had it right. Blame Canada

reply to post by sajuek



Of course.
Clouds form.
Earthquakes occur.
Plagues, locusts etc.

Not everything is the USA's fault.
Tinfoilers just love to point out when it is.... and believe me the USA's hands are in many pots.

Originally posted by grey580
reply to post by sajuek

 

Of course.
Clouds form.
Earthquakes occur.
Plagues, locusts etc.

Not everything is the USA's fault.
Tinfoilers just love to point out when it is.... and believe me the USA's hands are in many pots.

No they don't! They say everything is, and then let the things that aren't fall by the way side.

That's commonly known as paranoia.

Tinfoilers - Is there anything which happens in the world that the US government is not responsible for?

Well yeeeeaaaahhhh..

Just all the stuff that the Jews/Israel are responsible for.

Originally posted by micmerci
More specifically- it's Bush's fault.

Yeah. Remember how he was both a bumbling idiot and an evil mastermind all at the same time?

Some sweeping generalizations around here.

Some people, when they're advised to "question everything" . . . question everything. I think it's a healthy attitude. The US--or, more specifically, its illegitimate government--have stirred a lot of pots of strange and evil brew. In case you haven't noticed, they have historically been proven to have gotten up to a lot of mischief that they don't tell us citizens about--for good reason.

So, once again: Question everything....

My poops. I make them all by myself like a big boy. Now quit being a dick, dick.

I look at it like this. The government as a whole blamed Osama bin Laden for 9/11 a thousand times over. The media blamed him, nearly everyone did. Then when he's supposedly killed, big celebration, happy day. However, there is zero evidence for any Osama bin Laden involvement in 9/11. Even Dick Cheney admitted in 2006 on the Tony Snow show that bin Laden wasn't involved. So the question becomes, why is it imperative for me to believe Osama bin Laden was responsible when he clearly wasn't? Why are they covering up the real perpetrators of the act? Who are they protecting?

It makes a lot more sense that they themselves did it with the means and the know how over some outsiders who just happened to have a massive run of luck. On top of it, they lied severely to make it look like it was Osama. He denounced the attacks in his first video release following 9/11 (perhaps his only video release) questioning why he would go out of his way to kill innocent people when he fought so hard to protect them during the Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan. Then, here comes Fatty McFat Fat for the confession video who's obviously not bin Laden due to the excess weight and different nose. They barely even look similar. It's like saying all asians look the same.

If you can carry out 9/11 and get away with it then you can pretty much do whatever the **** you want to do. The world is your oyster.

Edit: Oh yeah, almost forgot, American Intelligence lied about the confession as well. Every one who spoke the language said there was no such confession and that words were being put into fatty's mouth. You can really blame anyone outside the government or their allies for 9/11 and the government doesn't give a ****.

reply to post by Ex_CT2


Sure, maintaining !HEALTHY! skepticism is a good thing. And it's good to question everything.

However it's not good to make premature, blundering short sighted assumptions about everything which is presented to you. That just goes right out the other end of questioning, straight through to "garbled insanity."

reply to post by sajuek


So which is it?

The US or a globalist banking / industrialist conspiracy? Or was it Nazis? Or a combination of them?

Tinfoilers - Is there anything which happens in the world that the US government is not responsible

No the US is the most evil country in the world we are responsiible for everything that goes wrong everywhere else in the world.

Is there any need to answer,

RHETORICAL questions at all?

The US is a nation of people.

Globalist money-power agendas are not nations.

We must differentiate between basic concepts in order to formulate valid ideas.

tinfoilers?

anywhoos to answer your question: the USA govt is corrupt to the core and NOTHING they do is moral, ethical, righteous or worthy of any kind of honor.

they suck.

reply to post by sajuek


Well, when you put it that way... Nobody (who's not insane) likes garbled insanity. I mean, it's fun for a while--until somebody gets hurt....

reply to post by sajuek
Of course the US government is responsible for everything! If we weren't then people would have to find a new scapegoat for all of the world's problems. Yes, the American government is responsible for a lot of dirty pool, but Lord forbid that anybody else in the world should have to take responsibility for their own mistakes- that would be too scandalous!

yeah
world peace

reply to post by Jwest06


I've never heard about Cheney on some show admitting OBL had nothing to do with 9/11 so I did a quick search and found out what you claim appears to be completely taken out of context from a mistake made by the ex VP, he meant to say Saddam Hussein and not OBL. I guess the next step is to find a clip of the actual show to verify this once and for all.

www.911myths.com...

On March 29, 2006, on The Tony Snow Show, Vice President Dick Cheney stated: “We’ve never made the case, or argued the case, that somehow Osama Bin Laden was directly involved in 9/11. That evidence has never been forthcoming.” Back on September 16, 2001, Cheney had said he would willingly accept bin Laden’s “head on a platter”.

But now let's see the quote in context:

Q I want to be clear because I've heard you say this, and I've heard the President say it, but I want you to say it for my listeners, which is that the White House has never argued that Saddam was directly involved in September 11th, correct?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: That's correct. We had one report early on from another intelligence service that suggested that the lead hijacker, Mohamed Atta, had met with Iraqi intelligence officials in Prague, Czechoslovakia. And that reporting waxed and waned where the degree of confidence in it, and so forth, has been pretty well knocked down now at this stage, that that meeting ever took place. So we've never made the case, or argued the case that somehow Osama bin Laden [sic] was directly involved in 9/11. That evidence has never been forthcoming. But there -- that's a separate proposition from the question of whether or not there was some kind of a relationship between the Iraqi government, Iraqi intelligence services and the al Qaeda organization.
...

Q Okay. A couple of things, I think a couple of minutes ago -- I want to make sure -- you said Osama bin Laden wasn't involved in 9/11 planning. You meant Saddam Hussein, correct? That Saddam Hussein was not involved in September 11th?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: Correct. Yes, sir.

Q Okay.

THE PRESIDENT CHENEY: Thanks for straightening that out. I didn't realize I'd done that. (Laughter.)
Q Yes. Well, otherwise we'd have a whole lot more stories to deal with.
(Web Archive source)

Believe me I'm no fan of the Bush admin, the wars, 9/11 and don't believe the official story but that info you're posting isn't helping the cause.

reply to post by muzzleflash


Clearly a combination and much more. When Eric Holder won't arrest Big Banks cause they were laundering money for not only dangerous criminals like the Mexican Cartels but also other scum known as terrorists you know there are men clearly above the law and are in positions of power, big time power.

So yeah, the Banksters conspiracy isn't really a conspiracy anymore wouldn't ya say? It's pretty much in our faces. Even in the movies the banker who launders money for the cartels eventually gets caught and suffers consequences or killed in action.