Actor blames Boston attack on gun culture: ’2nd amendment must go’

Having read the posts and the tweets and the article, the following can be stated:

How does having one more gun law do anything to change the culture? Will it stop the violence, will it deter a person from comitting an act of violence, will it even make a difference?

This current act, was not done by guns, there were no shots fired out, infact it was done by every day common household items, things one would find around most houses, in workshops and kitchens. It took only took a bit of special skills and timing, that is all that was used. And from what I have read, it pretty much was simple to put together ultimately did that much damage, where it could have been much worse.

This actor, what experience does he have, has he ever had to live under that kind of threat, has anyone? The reality is that the USA, seperated by distance and water, really has not had to deal with the kind of violence that has been seen in the middle east, or europe for that matter, or even Africa. In short, violence is coming here. It exists here, yet cause it offends him, we should remove a fundamental right, the very right designed to hold the government in check, from the very people that would guarantee that the government is held in check, the citizens.

Originally posted by sdcigarpig
Having read the posts and the tweets and the article, the following can be stated:

How does having one more gun law do anything to change the culture? Will it stop the violence, will it deter a person from comitting an act of violence, will it even make a difference?

This current act, was not done by guns, there were no shots fired out, infact it was done by every day common household items, things one would find around most houses, in workshops and kitchens. It took only took a bit of special skills and timing, that is all that was used. And from what I have read, it pretty much was simple to put together ultimately did that much damage, where it could have been much worse.

This actor, what experience does he have, has he ever had to live under that kind of threat, has anyone? The reality is that the USA, seperated by distance and water, really has not had to deal with the kind of violence that has been seen in the middle east, or europe for that matter, or even Africa. In short, violence is coming here. It exists here, yet cause it offends him, we should remove a fundamental right, the very right designed to hold the government in check, from the very people that would guarantee that the government is held in check, the citizens.

Couldn't have said it better myself, this post deserves infinite stars honestly. This guy suffers a huge detachment from reality.. He lives in a fancy house, with security, hell he probably owns a gun himself. He won't look at the true key issues associated with violence, he just uses guns as a soap box to push his wonky ideals I suppose.

He's an idiot.

It's not the guns or the bombs...or even the pressure cookers. It's not what's on the OUTSIDE. It's what's on the inside. It's common decency, respect for human life and the love of others, a moral center. We have become a society of takers instead of givers, a people who expect someone else will take care of them instead of being self reliant and taking care of themselves. We abandon our churches and temples and synagogues for playgrounds and shopping malls. We spend instead of save, we consume instead of contribute.

Moral decay is never pretty. What amazes me is the loudest voices are those who do nothing but contribute to it...

Isnt Jay Mohr the guy who played opposite that other has been actor in Dumb & Dummer?

Originally posted by Kituwa
Is Jay Mohr the guy who played opposite that other has been actor in Dumb & Dummer?

No, but I think they could be inspired to create a sequel. They are both pretty ignorant still, and just blindly speak like bumbling morons, so I could see it happening, especially if money is involved.

Originally posted by eXia7

Originally posted by Kituwa
Is Jay Mohr the guy who played opposite that other has been actor in Dumb & Dummer?

No, but I think they could be inspired to create a sequel. They are both pretty ignorant still, and just blindly speak like bumbling morons, so I could see it happening, especially if money is involved.

That all depends if any studio cares get behind another flop at the box office.

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Guns create a culture of violence like forks create a culture of obese people.

Another idiot actor speaking off-script!

Originally posted by eXia7

Originally posted by Phoenix267
I guess when terrible events happen. People would debate politics and try to sway people to their side.

It's funny how he claims not to be political, but it was indeed a political statement.. And I say that because, he chose to attack the 2nd amendment for violence, not just violence in general.

It's funny when someone says something against guns how the same people come out defending it with the same ole chestnuts and then attack the one who said it.

Mohr logic is right up there with the Westboro church loons.

A car just flipped on the highway killing the three teens inside. Hmmm..... was it gays or guns? I dont know. What do you think Jay Mohr? Moron.

Originally posted by Casualboy100
If they'll take one amendment they'll take another, and that's what i'm scared of. If the gov. or anyone attacks the people we will be defenseless. I can see kim saying "oh the US dont have guns" and that will make the US seem weak and vulnerable to attacks

Hasn´t one amendment already been dismissed?

I am not American, although I remember something from the history lessons about the amendment about Alcohol being repealed by another amendment.

Although I have heard several European countries modernising their constitutions. One of the reasons is the fact that times have changed. Something that might have been extremely necessary to hold in constitution 50 years ago, might be outdated nowadays. ALthough often there are no amendments. Just over 100 different paragraphs in sections

I would get why many Americans are against the gun laws, if the guns were banned everywhere in US, although background checks and bans of certain weapons, like assault rifles, that is something that is very hard to understand for me as a person from different culture.

As far as I know the people here, if guns were available without stong background checks, then people would start rebelling and asking for a law that would make background checks required. Same is about concealed firearms or certain weapons.Although, the gun culture is extremely different from the US one.

Hmmm, well. Never let it be said that the days of blatant propegandism and unsupportable insinuation are dead! Heres the thing, no one in the WORLD ever died BECAUSE of a gun. Everyone who has died from gunshot wounds, died not because guns exist, but because those who wield them in the name of unreasoning violence and hatred, wished them dead for whatever reason.

Men used to use swords to do the same work. Silent, cold and deadly, a blade through the neck, plunged through a ribcage, passed across a vital artery, is just as effective as a headshot under the right circumstances, and yet no one in history ever blamed a sword for a death. When farmers in China were prevented from owning swords, they used modified agricultural tools instead, to great effect. These too remained largely unmolested by law. Thier owners and users on the other hand faced stiff penalties if they rebelled against Chinas leaders back in the day.

When a person is murdered with a hammer, no one arrests the tool in question. They take it into evidence, because prints on its surfaces, and blood on its head will be able to place the object in direct contact with the victim, and the suspect, proving the suspects guilt. When someone is knifed to death in an alley, the same applies. A gun is no different to these objects, aside from the fact that it is, one could argue, more likely to fail, a hell of a lot more noisy, and (allegedly) requires much time and effort to master.

So how is it that in this modern age, things have come full circle to the extent that elements of mankind are stupid enough to blame violence on the availability of objects which can cause death? I could kill a man with eighty percent of the contents of my home! My entire kitchen is a weapon, every bit of furniture could be used to bludgeon, to crush, its edges to choke a person against. Even my clothing could become a murder weapon if I got angry enough to, say for instance soak a shirt in water, then use it to strangle a person. While we are at it, theres nothing, absolutely nothing, stopping me walking outside right now, and breaking a persons neck with my bare hands.

So... my question is this:
When are these ridiculous attacks against guns going to stop? When are the people being swayed by these arguments, going to accept the fact that the reason for all this mayhem has nothing to do with lead and steel, and everything to do with the human condition, social and economic inequality, an inability or unwillingness on the part of government and society to get a grip on mental health issues? Its EASY to blame a particular religion for the ills of the world, if one is ignorant. Its easy to blame a nations problems on the jobless, if one has ones eyes shut. Its easy to blame violence on guns, if one is so unprepared to look into the eyes of those who pulled the trigger, and see something of themselves reflected in those orbs.

But surely, surely there are enough people in the USA today who are prepared to be honest with themselves about the true causes of violence, the true root of these acts that have so scarred the nation as a whole, that this foolishness can be defeated. Surely there are those in the states who view these things through a lens untainted by self opinion, those prepared to confront and defeat thier own inner shadows, thier personal darknesses, and in so doing recognise them in others. If not, then there is little hope for the world. I may not agree with many things that happen in the US, the appalling attitude toward access to healthcare held by many for one, but the second ammendment is not one of those things.

The second ammendment is the only thing other than metal bands, about the USA, which I have an unflinching and unquestioning respect for. In the USA, poor people are treated like dirt, despite working harder than anyone who ever made it big, but doing it for less dollar value, for longer hours. I hate that. In the USA, you cant get medical care unless you jump ninety hoops while on fire and do the secret handshake too, although thats being changed, to great public dismay. I hate that, and the US should be ashamed... ASHAMED, of that. But the upholding of a persons right to protect himself and his family? These are golden, wonderful rights, rights each of you should embrace and cherish, not just out of respect for your traditions, but also because the world is a place now where they are MORE essential, not less.

I hope and pray that the current trend against the gun ends. I may prefer cold steel myself, but I am prevented from carrying even that by my countries laws. I beg you all, do NOT let that happen to your nation. Do not let your government pull out your teeth, based on a lie eaten up by the ignorant.

Jay Mohr is a sometimes funny hack that has been in a few movies as a character actor playing the youthful character.

He can suck it.

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Hes completely right, and anyone that disagrees is just another patriot on the bandwagon thats going to ruin america in the end, when the port arthur massacre happened in sydney 35 people were killed by a lone gunman gone crazy, and another 20 wounded, john howard, the prime minister at the time, made everyone hand in their assault rifles and machine guns, and if you wanted to have any other guns on your property, you need them locked in a safe, and somebody comes to your house on a random/frequent basis, to make sure the guns are locked away, WE HAV'NT HAD A MASSACRE IN AUSTRALIA SINCE!!!!! IT NEEDS TO DONE, BE OPEN YOUR EYES

Dear Jay,

You can always leave the country. We won't miss you. I promise.

Sincerely,
67

P.S. You're an idiot.

Never heard of the guy, is he trying to get more famous or something? Attention seeking can be a terrible thing.

Personally i blame the stupid amount of cooking programmes on tv, more chefs, more cookers sold.

Yes i know that's stupid......but slightly more closely related to the incident than gun owners.

CX.

Our culture of bloodshed and violence is to be blamed on... guns?

Right. Guns teach our kids how to be violent thugs when Mom and dad are not home. Guns teach them how to kill and maim.

Those bad old guns! Let's lock up all the guns so all the criminals and insanity will immediately be cured!

I'm glad I will not live long enough to see what is left of this country and world in 20 years.

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Dont people in US get sick of Actors telling people what they should do, i mean its bad enough listening to the garabage that comes from the politicians mouth but Actors as well, why cant Actors just stick to acting.

Originally posted by AthlonSavage
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Dont people in US get sick of Actors telling people what they should do, i mean its bad enough listening to the garabage that comes from the politicians mouth but Actors as well, why cant Actors just stick to acting.

I'm sure a lot of people don't like hearing what they have to say, especially if it involves demonizing freedoms. But sadly, a large portion of impressionable people will agree with them.

Jay Mohr

Never heard of him. So I googled him.
Saw his picture .. read his bio ... and I've still never heard of him.
Jay who? Whatever.

Originally posted by intrepid

Originally posted by eXia7

Originally posted by Phoenix267
I guess when terrible events happen. People would debate politics and try to sway people to their side.

It's funny how he claims not to be political, but it was indeed a political statement.. And I say that because, he chose to attack the 2nd amendment for violence, not just violence in general.

It's funny when someone says something against guns how the same people come out defending it with the same ole chestnuts and then attack the one who said it.

Its funny how you wont see Obama be intellectually honest by dragging out Boston bombing victims and relatives for a press conference demanding congress pass a bill that will institute a bckground check for pressure cookers.

Just so funny