BREAKING:Explosion At Boston Marathon

I would like them to release the video. I said early in the thread they should release it. That was before they released these images of the suspects. I still want to the video as I stated I dont want to 9/11 BS Pentagon video excuses.
At the same time I think that they want to keep it to use in court against him if he were caught as evidence.
If they let it out now, his Lawyers would probably not want it submitted claiming bias opinion on his client.

I still think at least 2 frames so we can know for sure. One putting down and One leaving it behind.

Originally posted by TKDRL
reply to post by IamAbeliever

 

Only a moron would do that lol..... Or a psycho maybe. Sure officer, I put down the bomb right here like this....

Breivik went to Utoya island and showed investigators how he gunned kids down, he walked them all over the island.
You do know that having two perpetrators gives them a lot of power if they catch both, right? They can play them against each other pretty easily with the right information, then get a deal in exchange for accurate information of the events. If it saves this kid from a death sentence I think he would probably talk, and even walk them through it.

Originally posted by Rocker2013

Originally posted by IcyPatriot
Why is the man all the way to the lower right with the Boston shirt on laughing while looking at the suspect?

It's a momentary image, a millisecond caught frozen in time. Maybe he was turning his head rather than looking at anyone.

You cannot make assumptions on mood or demeanour based on one millisecond like this. It's impossible.

Everyone in the picture looks scared ... he seems rather jovial IMO.

Originally posted by IcyPatriot

Originally posted by Rocker2013

Originally posted by IcyPatriot
Why is the man all the way to the lower right with the Boston shirt on laughing while looking at the suspect?

It's a momentary image, a millisecond caught frozen in time. Maybe he was turning his head rather than looking at anyone.

You cannot make assumptions on mood or demeanour based on one millisecond like this. It's impossible.

Everyone in the picture looks scared ... he seems rather jovial IMO.

He might be in shock

Originally posted by IcyPatriot

Originally posted by Rocker2013

Originally posted by IcyPatriot
Why is the man all the way to the lower right with the Boston shirt on laughing while looking at the suspect?

It's a momentary image, a millisecond caught frozen in time. Maybe he was turning his head rather than looking at anyone.

You cannot make assumptions on mood or demeanour based on one millisecond like this. It's impossible.

Everyone in the picture looks scared ... he seems rather jovial IMO.

He might be in shock

Originally posted by IcyPatriot

Originally posted by Rocker2013

Originally posted by IcyPatriot
Why is the man all the way to the lower right with the Boston shirt on laughing while looking at the suspect?

It's a momentary image, a millisecond caught frozen in time. Maybe he was turning his head rather than looking at anyone.

You cannot make assumptions on mood or demeanour based on one millisecond like this. It's impossible.

Everyone in the picture looks scared ... he seems rather jovial IMO.

Yes, but we can only see part of his face, or perhaps he always looks like that when he's scared?
We could go really out there and say he might be confused, think it's a firework and everyone else is overreacting? Maybe he's a little senile or just hasn't grasped what just happened?

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That is a stretch of an assumption. His glasses alone will make your theory or wild-fetched imagination, impossible to determine. He was looking in that general direction and it should be noted that there are only six-facial expressions and this picture captured a very obscured view of that expression; ie, you don't know its a smile.

EDIT:
By your logic, we should then be pointing out: the camera man...how could he be so calm to take such a picture? Or the balding guy in the bad suit by the building.....he is way too calm. The hatted gentleman just in front of the camera....I mean, why is he looking that way?

Get the idea?!

Originally posted by IcyPatriot

Everyone in the picture looks scared ... he seems rather jovial IMO.

In all due respect, I feel safe in saying "no, that don't look Jovial".

I dunno what you know about micro-expressions or the magic of film capturing facial features in mid-expression, but I assure you there is a wealth of info on that stuff to find online. In fact, there are entire threads of it even here on ATS.

I'm willing to bet (on a limb) what you are seeing is an overweight man grimacing in exhaustion and fear as he witnesses the first moments of an attack that has yet to be explained by hours and hours of news coverage.

What you see here is a frightened man, not in the best shape of his life, hustling and moving in fear and confusion.

MM

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Why is the man all the way to the lower right with the Boston shirt on laughing while looking at the suspect?

Not that it matters that much, but he's probably squinting his eyes, which affects many facial muscles that could be mistaken for a smile.

Originally posted by Rocker2013

We could go really out there and say he might be confused, think it's a firework and everyone else is overreacting? Maybe he's a little senile or just hasn't grasped what just happened?

Yup...we can do that...if, yknow...we thought it was logical.

MM

Originally posted by Zarniwoop
reply to post by IcyPatriot

 

Why is the man all the way to the lower right with the Boston shirt on laughing while looking at the suspect?

Not that it matters that much, but he's probably squinting his eyes, which affects many facial muscles that could be mistaken for a smile.

Completely agreed and even then, we cannot tell. Its a photo of an acute profile with someone with glasses on. I bet if we showed just that picture, without context, people would probably see the whole gambit of known human expressions on that face. Good call Zarni

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I don't know if the video has been seen some here

Very Clarifying Video.....

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It's Chainsaw from Summer School !
imgur.com...

Just taking a break from looking at images and stories. Chilln' the mood a bit

Suspect #2, asian perhaps?



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Originally posted by Golf66...I am advancing a plausible theory based on my experience operating down range as an SF Team Leader nothing more nothing less... If you want facts only my recommendation is to avoid sites on which people speculate on possible conspiracy.
...If you think one guy carried 4 IED's weighed down with a crap ton of ball bearings (big enough to shred 140 people) into the area all by himself and set them up with no one noticing...well. I don't buy it.
...Also, the TTP and security measures should be transparent to the crowd that doesn't mean that counter measures were not in place.
...Those 4 IEDs would be very heavy. I suppose if he had a cover position as a trash collector and a plausible reason to have a cart with bags and such one guy could pull it off but I bet there were no bags emptied all day as part of the counter measures. I bet the cans were even inspected and marked in some way once they were.
...

Good points.
I saw the initial reply to this, and found it wanting... The question is not whether someone could carry 140 pounds (or so) around and look inconspicuous...but, the bulk of even 2 such devices (pressure cookers?) would be a strategic "problem" for any "lone bomber" planning such an event.
They obviously chose a "mass gathering" (they didn't show up with their ready-to-blow bombs, and say "OH! Today's the Boston Marathon! Guess I'll do it anyway.")... They were expecting eyes everywhere. They expected to "need to be invisible"...blend-in... A huge muscle-bound guy might get away with lugging more than one such device around...but they would also be more likely to draw attention to themselves...with the bulky devices adding more girth to their already-bulky size.
Something else to consider...
Maybe it has been discussed already and I've missed it...but... Whoever pulled this off...has probably built quite a few of these devices...and detonated them, before. How comfortable would you be walking with such an instrument strapped to your back...and attempting to go unnoticed...never knowing if you'd built it right...and it wouldn't explode until you told it to (whether by timer or remote detonation)?
I, personally, don't see the "lone bomber" theory as plausible. Possible, but not plausible.
Then again...these are just my observations and opinions...and others will think more highly of their own.

Originally posted by Mr Mask

Originally posted by Rocker2013

We could go really out there and say he might be confused, think it's a firework and everyone else is overreacting? Maybe he's a little senile or just hasn't grasped what just happened?

Yup...we can do that...if, yknow...we thought it was logical.

MM

Careful with that logic around here! It's like Kryptonite

Originally posted by IcyPatriot

Originally posted by xavi1000
Another pic of the suspect, running away from the scene on Left

Why is the man all the way to the lower right with the Boston shirt on laughing while looking at the suspect?

Thats the first thing I noticed too. Found it to be very odd.

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Not sure if this was already posted but, this photo shows him and a bag on the ground.

reply to post by IamAbeliever


maybe hes looking at the running curvy bouncy chick dressed in light blue... actually thats what I was looking at too to be honest.

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But the calm looking gentleman in the center of the photo with a wool-cap on, just meandering, doesn't strike your imagination? The balding gentleman near the building, just relaxing, doesn't pique your interest? No its the older gentleman who 'appears' to be smiling.....

See what you want I suppose....