Man No Longer Allowed To Visit Husband At KC Hospital

reply to post by Kali74


I totally agree and DAMN RIGHT! It's just I can see a different scenario.

Family: "Son, can we have a moment with our boy"?

Partner, "No f'en way."

F, "C'mon man."

P, "Up yours."

Escalation.

Are you saying that that isn't possible? We weren't there, we don't know. As has been said it's the patient that's important.

reply to post by intrepid


No, I'm not saying it's not possible... just generally in those situations the other family is asked to leave. If the case is that he denied the family access, while it might make him an asshole, he's within the law to do so... He said no, they have to leave.

Originally posted by intrepid
reply to post by Benevolent Heretic

 

I don't think so. My guess is this is an ongoing problem with this family. The partner was removed because he was disruptive. He probably was dealing with that family.

THAT I could see. The nurse really doesn't have much to do with the power of attorney - she/he is not the gating factor as to whether it's looked at or not. They'll ask if you have one and if you do to bring it and file a copy with the business office. But they can't say "NO! NOT FOR YOU!" and tear it up or something.

Also, it would be the odd hospital to ignore the patient's request for anyone in particular, family or no, to be at the bedside. If he asked for the family to be ejected and the partner to be there, that's what would happen, at least in any hospital my brother's worked at. You generally don't get removal of people unless it's an ongoing disturbance, or they're interfering with patient care.

Originally posted by camaro68ss
Technically there not husbands. There domestic partners. Husbands would imply there married. There not married under the law or even under natural law for the matter. There just domestic partners. I dont agree with there life style but still, its messed up he cant see his partner.

edit on 11-4-2013 by camaro68ss because: (no reason given)

And what you posted here highlights a point for me.

Often times in these gay marriage type of threads, we always see someone who says, "Why does it have to be called marriage? Why can't it be called a civil union and still grant the same type of rights as marriage?"

Well now here is your answer. Get a good look at it.

If you call it something other than "marriage"- it will be viewed as something other than "marriage".

More on topic: I am not shocked by the story at all. Liberty is a funny thing this way. People scream for it, and do not want their rights to be infringed- but at the same time they do not see a problem with infringing on the rights of others if they can justify it.

Originally posted by Hefficide
... that the husband and family should just have specific visitation days and times assigned to them so that they don't overlap and create all this unnecessary drama?

I suspect that would entail even more legal issues. Who assigns? Who gets to be there if the guy's dying? It would be better if they'd just iron out their differences, but if the guy's got the power of attorney, he ought to see a judge and get the TRO set aside. I'd suspect there's a legal issue with denying the holder of the POA access to the person over whom he's got control. The sort that any lawyer could have a field day with.

For instance, he could simply order the guy moved to another hospital, end of TRO.

I think the article is Not telling the whole story here.

If a regular hospital no matter if they were shacking up and doing the nasty or not, he would have been allowed to see his friend at normal visiting hours. But this is the psychiatric unit and I know they sometimes run things differently than regular hospital areas. They might have strict wording on their forms for who is to be allowed to visit. It may say family member or married in the eyes of the state. They do this to protect the patient. Every I has to be dotted and every T crossed for legal reasons.

This needs to be determined before people make judgment. The guy himself may not understand this.

Update: Hospital Allows Partner to Visit after National Attention (although the hospital claims the partner's story is inaccurate)

I think it's telling that most of you have assumed that the partner was the one who got pissy about it and the family was completely reasonable. If I was by my husband's side while he was seriously ill and his brother came and told me to "back off" because he could take care of his brother, I very well might get pissy, too. But we weren't there and we don't know what happened.

I'm not assuming either scenario, but if they were married, there would be no issue. The brother would have been asked to leave. It wouldn't matter if the partner got pissy or not. NO ONE better ever try to get between me and my husband if he's sick. If the the family had been nice about their request, there'd be no reason for him to get upset, but if he said no, and they insisted, then I'd get pissy, too.

Roger Gorley said he just wanted to be there for Allen, his partner of almost five years. When he arrived at the medical center on Tuesday, Allen’s brother confronted him and told him to “back off.”

Gorley said he had the power of attorney and had every right to be there. However, HCA said Gorley did not present proof of “power of attorney” during that particular visit.

“‘This is my brother — I will take care of him,’ and I said ‘No, this is my husband I have taken care of him for some time,’” Gorley said.

Gorley claims a nurse wouldn’t accept him as Allen’s husband and had him escorted out by security. He was later arrested by Kansas City, Mo., police.
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HCA said Thursday it does not have a restraining order against Gorley and that he is welcome back at anytime. However, a police report shows he has been cited for trespassing and disorderly conduct.