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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by truejew
Well, take the discrepancy up with Jesus in prayer then, that's all I can tell you. Tell him the 70 week prophecy already happened and ask Him why He hasn't returned and why the world/age has not come to an end.
I can't help you.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by truejew
He referred the disciples to Daniel 9 in answering their question in Matthew 24. Their question was threefold, the last two dealt with His 2nd coming and the "end of the world". If He has not yet returned and the world keeps a spinin as it always has then you have either two reasons.
1. Verse 27 from Daniel 9 is still future. Or..
2. Jesus was a false prophet.
edit on 3-7-2013 by NOTurTypical because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Jesus speaking in Matthew 24:15..
"When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand).."
He referred directly to Daniel 9:27, which is..
"And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate."
edit on 3-7-2013 by NOTurTypical because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Jesus speaking in Matthew 24:15..
"When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand).."
He referred directly to Daniel 9:27, which is..
"And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate."
edit on 3-7-2013 by NOTurTypical because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by truejew
Daniel 12 is also about the end, but the scope is a tad different. Again, specifically Gabriel says the 70 seven week periods are for the Jews/Israel and the city of Jerusalem. Paul likewise mentions the future abomination of desolation and gives some more detail of precisely what it it in 2 Thesselonians 2:3-4. That was written long after Jesus's ascention to heaven. And the "prince that shall come" is one of the 33 different Biblical titles that the man of sin or commonly referred to as the Antichrist will carry. Here is a well detailed commentary on Daniel 9:
Daniel 9
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by truejew
I've mentioned this a few times now. I never said another Messiah will fulfill anything, nor is another one coming besides the second coming of Jesus. You have to address what I say, when you make arguments trying to challenge things I never said that serves no purpose whatsoever.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Again, which wasn't addressed, Paul gives great detail to the future (as of his writing) abomination of desolation in 2 Thesselonians 2:3-4. Paul doesn't refer back to 32 AD, but writes that it is yet future. The prince, the man of sin, or Antichrist if you will, will sit in the temple and declare himself to be god.edit on 4-7-2013 by NOTurTypical because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by truejew
I'm not deceived. No one is looking for a coming of some new Messiah, except the Jews and the Muslims. The Christian Messiah is Jesus of Nazareth. Again, Paul details the future (at the time of his writing), in 2 Thesselonians 2:3-4. And the "prince that shall come" isn't Jesus Christ, that's the man of sin. And because it was Arab Romans who destroyed the temple and the city in 70 AD he will be an Arab Antichrist.
I've never taught or heard taught that we are to expect a new Messiah that isn't Jesus Christ. Again that would be a Judaism or Islamic belief.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by truejew
No I am not. I'm denying that Jesus was "the prince that shall come". That's a title for the Antichrist.
Originally posted by truejew
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by truejew
No I am not. I'm denying that Jesus was "the prince that shall come". That's a title for the Antichrist.
You do when you say that the 70 weeks Messianic prophecy was not fulfilled by Jesus as Daniel prophesied. I do not claim that "the prince that shall come" is Jesus.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by truejew
Well, take the discrepancy up with Jesus in prayer then, that's all I can tell you. Tell him the 70 week prophecy already happened and ask Him why He hasn't returned and why the world/age has not come to an end.
I can't help you.