The Primeval Code

reply to post by ecapsretuo


I like your speculation! In fact, I was thinking the same thing, and like most others here are probably doing, wondering what I need in order to create my own 'static-dome' habitat.

There was something always bothering me about evolution in nature, specifically; the evolution of seedlings.

I could never understand how a tree would know that it must evolve in order to increase it's survival rate. Trees do not talk to each other and, once their seeds have fallen, they have no way of knowing if their seedlings survived and produced even more seedlings.

They do not communicate with one another, as far as I know - atleast not in the conventional way we understand communication. So how does a tree know that it needs to develop a seed pod, shaped like a wing, in order to insure it's continued existence? Maybe it is 'told' to the tree using the very principles of this thread's topic.

Many people truly believe that plants do respond to human voices of people speaking directly to the plants. If I recall correctly, I believe there was even a study done that shows plants respond to pleasant interaction and voice tone in a good way, while responding poorly to evil interaction and angry voice tone.

Maybe the plants do respond to these very different attitudes and maybe it is not our actual voice or thoughts that fuel their response. Maybe our body's electric field changes when we are in different moods and the plants respond to these changing personality characteristics...

I suppose this may be why some people who are constantly in a bad mood, with lots of negativity, always have a hard time growing plants...

It makes me wonder what type of changes in a human might be revealed if a baby was exposed to this type of electro-static manipulation from conception on-ward. I think I will build the giant electro-static dome I mentioned earlier and see if I develop any super-powers.... *fingers crossed, hoping for the power of flight, invisibility, and X-Ray vision!

I'll probably be allergic to it and turn into a Zombie!... Zombies v. Super-Humans... sheesh

Thanks OP!

Has anyone considered that the fall of the mega fauna and large animals was due to the earth passing out of an electrified field and that in time it may pass again through one causing rapid change in plant and animal life?

everyone should go through this electrostatic shockwave thing....then we'll know who among us are the true descendants of the reptiles...............

reply to post by VoidHawk


Who says they haven't already?

Maybe you need to investigate the frequency these devices operate at! You may find some disturbing info...

reply to post by esteay812

I could never understand how a tree would know that it must evolve in order to increase it's survival rate. Trees do not talk to each other and, once their seeds have fallen, they have no way of knowing if their seedlings survived and produced even more seedlings.

They do not communicate with one another, as far as I know - atleast not in the conventional way we understand communication. So how does a tree know that it needs to develop a seed pod, shaped like a wing, in order to insure it's continued existence? Maybe it is 'told' to the tree using the very principles of this thread's topic.

I think the general consensus is that plants don't need to communicate with their offspring (seeds or pollen) to know if their design is working out for them, but rather they change or evolve over time in response to outside or environmental stimulus. If their design is working, they survive and reproduce to pass on that subtle change...if the design doesn't work, or the environmental conditions are too severe for the plant to mutate fast enough to cope with, they don't survive, and their evolution stops.

Who's to say though, that one of the environmental stimulus events isn't a brief (weeks, months or even low numbers of years) exposure to electrostatic fields of varying HV that causes the changes and drives evolution...and not just in plants but also in higher life, like us?

Here is the problem I see...What you describe in this thread "could" happen, given the way corporations have so much control over science, basically owning people and work, therefore not having to release results, even those that would be beneficial to people in some form in the long or short run. And since this could happen, why should we doubt that it DID happen at some point? Common sense tells me that things similar to this have happened over and over again over the years. There should be no right for corporations to own information, even if they are the ones who conducted the research.

All research should be published, and anything that could be beneficial to humans should not be able to be monopolized. Again, this is capitalism at its finest. It is a broken system, and it has effects that reach much further than the economy, and actually goes as far as to cause people to die who could have otherwise lived. That is not a stretch of the imagination by any means, although I leave it to the readers to fill in the gaps as to what exactly I am referring to. It is pretty obvious though.

I have a different theory...and it kind of goes with the Electric Universe theory.

What if our planetary electric field was once highly charged.....the Golden Age....but a cataclysmic event DID happen....namely an electrified Comet that struck the Earth.....OR a planet that passed the Earth....that arced and reduced the strength of the Earth's Electric field?

Along with the reduced electric field...which meant reduced size of all things, humans included, shorter lifespans, dying out of plants and animals.....I'm sure you get it...

Just a passing thought.

And yes, I believe the frequencies used in devices and mobile phones for communication and wireless internet are PURPOSEFULLY at that frequency to promote numbness in humanity and ultimately to suppress our capabilities both physically and spiritually.

reply to post by talklikeapirat


so if electro static energy will bring out "primal traits in these organisms, it realy sets my imagination off on what it would do to us... mabie we will devolve like in idiocracy

This is a great thread.

It reminds me of a seminar I went to recently looking into the subject of epi-genetics. How a certain percentage of our genes are activated at birth and only a small proportion compared to previous understanding is actually pre determined by biological parents. The rest of the genes, roughly 70% are controlled by mini brains, hence the term epigenes. These epigenes are activated in the first few years based solely on the environmental conditions. I wonder if those same gene conditions come into play and exist for plants and seeds and other creatures as outlined in this thread.

It's also interesting that it seems that the primal aspects of the subject are initiated by the field generated, does this mean that in the past the earth had a far stronger magnetic/static field that has waned with time and caused the current evolution we see of these plants and animals? ie the genes determined for environmental viability.

Really interesting stuff!

reply to post by Spectrumdez


Thank you for bringing up the epigenes, i too believe this is directly related to this and similar effects.

It's also interesting that it seems that the primal aspects of the subject are initiated by the field generated, does this mean that in the past the earth had a far stronger magnetic/static field that has waned with time

This is exactly what geophysical studies have shown. The dates are established with the premise of quasi-gradual rate of fluctuation. In association with a cataclysmic event a faster declining rate is possible. For geophysicists it is scientific fact that increase and decrease of the fields are periodical in nature.


Earth's Electrical Enviornment

I've been following this thread with fascination and just wanted to add my thanks for bringing it to us. This is truly amazing, wonderful, and albeit, frightening. I wonder if the new (wheat) proteins are digestible, or harmful in any way?
I'd really like to see how honey bee eggs would respond to the treatment. Could they possibly bounce back from the extinction edge??
talklikeapirat , you get my vote for best thread!

reply to post by talklikeapirat


You should read the book;
"The Source Field Investigations" by David Wilcock. It takes a REALLY in depth look at this stuff. A must read!

Originally posted by flexy123

I will have to read more into this, it's really extremely interesting.

check out the morphogenetic field

Originally posted by talklikeapirat

The difference between an electric -(static) field and an electromagnetic field is that without any flowing current no magnetism occurs, or no magnetic field is created.

Better explained here...
Electrostatics

I can understand the sceptisim very well, but many of the resulting effects of the experiments are effects we would deem positive; healthier, stronger plants, that require less fertilizers and herbicides, the lower mortality rates for the fish and the higher resistance to pathogens.

I think we are far from working 'hand in hand' with nature in many ways we conduct our businesses, or how we let others conduct them for us, brute force seems to be the general rule, even if it comes in the form of seemingly elegant high-tech solutions.

That's why i believe it is so important to gain a better understanding about the processes behind a phenomenon with such promising effects. We need to know more.

Sorry, that's backwards. You cannot energise anything above background without putting energy in and the energised object will always re-emit that energy or transfer it, therefore there is loss when that field interacts with anything else.

Your video quite clearly says 'Highvoltage-Coil', you can not energise a coil without a) magnetism and b) loss.

I agree that this is interesting and should be studied more, particularly on plants (I don't like animal experiments) - but lets not kid ourselves that there is some free energy transfer going on here.

Originally posted by yampa
What I see is a form of electromagnetic radiation causing rapid growth mutations in previously stable species? I really don't want to eat that, thanks.

Also "As no currents flow in this apparatus, no perceptible loss of energy is observed. Hence energy is not a cost factor in this invention." - that is total rubbish. If the apparatus is not emitting charge photons at an accelerated rate or curvature, then it is not interacting with anything differently from background. Generating 10,000 volts absolutely consumes energy and if anything is causing mutations or accelerated growth, then it's the charge flood from this field. Feeding plants with an electric field is considerably more costly than using photosynthesis.

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I think you're mis-understanding the process, and, while I'm no electrician, it seems to me that you may be misunderstanding the part about the currents you're mentioning as well. I can't speak much to that part, for lack of expertise, but as far as the process, it seems you think they are actually continuously exposing the plants to the static field as a form of nourishment or continuous mutation process. This is not the case. The seeds exposed to the field to germinate as an altered specimen,but are then raised as any normal plant. There were comparison tests done upon the "normal" plants and those which had (briefly, as seeds) been exposed to th static electric field. The plants used photosynthesis to grow like normal, they just did it much better/faster, and/or with bigger yields, apparently thanks to some effect of "primordial DNA."

Originally posted by dogstar23

I think you're mis-understanding the process, and, while I'm no electrician, it seems to me that you may be misunderstanding the part about the currents you're mentioning as well.

Ok, since you're not an electrician and I've just said a bunch of words which convey an understanding of the theory and technology behind electromagnetism who do you think is right here?

I can't speak much to that part, for lack of expertise, but as far as the process, it seems you think they are actually continuously exposing the plants to the static field as a form of nourishment or continuous mutation process. This is not the case. The seeds exposed to the field to germinate as an altered specimen,but are then raised as any normal plant.

Ok - not feed, germinate, so photosynthesis isn't relevant. But the seeds were germinated in a permanent electric field for 3 days. Energising a coil at 10,000v for 3 days will require quite a lot of energy. Try hand cranking a van de graaff generator for 3 days and see how your arm feels:

For three days the corn grains are drawn into the air and water-sealed Petri dishes in an electric field, then continue to grow the seeds, like any other plant in a pot or in the greenhouse. The result after normal growing season is a corn with a particularly high number of pistons in a heap, where normally found only in maize is a piston.

And from the first page of the OPs post says 4 weeks for fish eggs:

One half of the inseminated eggs were then exposed to an electrostatic field for 4 weeks, the other half is left untreated. Both test groups are put into conventional fish tanks, where the fish naturally hatches under the same conditions.

I want to know what happens if I take a couple of waterproofed magnets, stick a seed inside, let the magnets hold the seed, germinate it, remove the magnets and then set it in the garden.

Is this enough of a magnetic field to cause an effect? Makes me wonder about magnetized rocks and what grows near them or what about charged water softener devices that were appearing 20 some years ago?

I would not doubt that some of the seed manipulating theories are being practiced. That could explain corn I've seen growing in fields. I grew up thinking corn was a one ear to plant crop, but last year I saw stalks with 3 to 5 ears growing on them and all good sized ones. I planted decorative "raspberry" pop corn for fun, purchased seeds, and in my own European garden and had stalks with multiple ears and tassels coming out all summer long (unfortunately also smut that I had to quickly destroy.) However these seed would have to have been exposed to a magnetic field in the seed stage as normal machine planting was done. Or could be forthcoming generations from handled plants.

Anyway, I have some bath tub magnets. I had to shorten a shower curtain liner, the magnets are sandwiched sealed in plastic. I have some radish seeds that I've been planting and eating so I'm familiar with them. Lets see what happens.

And while I'm bending my mind around this great ATS post... There must be some interesting research concerning the MRI machines used for diagnostics. Anything applicable?

Fascinating post, thanks OP!

Does anyone else remember an invention created by Nikola Tesla - a huge building sized 'machine' that was designed such that you would walk through it, exposed to some kind of 'electrical charge', and you would literally get younger and healthier as you walked through it? Somehow the electrical charge supposedly rewrote your genes making you younger and/or healing any disease?

Sounds eerily similar. I wish for the life of me I could remember where I read about this thing...

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Googled Building fountain of youth, Tesla

www.joshuatreevillage.com...

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If everything grows this quickly then how soon would it take a human embryo to reach adult status? We could live forever!