Could ancient aliens exist in chemical form?

Hello to you all,

I have written before about the usage of "holy plants" in the different native people, all around the world,

today i wish to connect some dots that have previously been addressed, but with different perspectives.

okay lets go,

here are some good examples, of our interactions with the supposed ancient alien race,
they are responsible for what the human race is today (dna manipulation etc)
they are aiding humanity from a hidden angle (from the general public)
they will raise humanity to higher forms of being (rapture)
they once were very involved, but now lost ( i will promise to return)

my perspective,

they were under the influence of chemicals,

chemicals are responsible for what we are today. (early mutations in the nervous system) (sense of the "self")
chemicals are aiding humanity (today) to be a slave race, (in the form of pharmaceutical companies)
chemicals have raised humanity to a higher form of being (sorry but the impossiple leaps of science and technology are largely because of controlled ingestion studies)
chemicals were used in ancient high cultures, and the first laws, and general guidelines for life were invented by people under the influence. (greece, for a great example, volcano fumes and plant smoke)
but today are generally considered as tabu.

now you might think, so ancient aliens were only hallucinations, and hominids developed compassion because they felt terrible after eating poisonous mushrooms etc.

but what if the truth isnt that black and white?
what if the alien mind exists in a chemical state?
what if the alien can communicate with every being it wants, through the synapses in the brain?

what if the original prometheus race designed and send to space, pollen and microbes containing an evolutionary "kickstarter" designed, to form mushrooms and plants, to be ingested by all life in existence, and it contains INFORMATION?

that kinda beats the idea of sending probes containing the yelling of hitler....


the alien never left, we did. and here we are, alone in the company of the beginning,

hopefully we can discuss this subject like true gents and dames,

so , could the alien be in another state of reality, connecting with all of existence, in the form of chemical compounds?

I think it would be more likely for "ancient aliens" to have existed (if at all) as a psychic projection into the minds of our ancestors. Physical travel between the stars is extremely problematic, but if psychic phenomenon turns out to have any kind of basis in reality, that might be the most practical way to for aliens to interact with us. This would particularly be true if psychic phenomenon exists as something outside our normal Newtonian/Einsteinian physical reality. No gravity or lightspeed limitations.

It could be interpreted as dreams (inspiration), or as direct communication as described in the Bible -- the Bible is full of dreamers -- or by "possession" like demons do. Many of our greatest achievements were ultimate the result of people having dreams given to them by the gods. And back in ancient times, when life was a bit simpler and there wasn't so much noise, people could hear them better and pay better attention to dreamers.

reply to post by Blue Shift


what better way to traverse space but microbes and or pollen (not sure if it can survive)

psychic projection would also may not be as efficient (if it takes concentration)
an infected plane of existence would get more results,, just a thought....

I have often kept the idea that bacteria are an ancient intelligence that can be expressed in humans or other intelligence species.

Midi-chlorians...

reply to post by solve


Hi, let me attempt to try solve this for you. Firstly you have an excellant post. The first part in part conatins much truth, you certanly know somthing. One of the better posts Ive seen since joining Ats.

The ancients did invent or create this that you speak of. They had a system to initiate people into god consciousness or Higher consciousness. In the sun and moon temple in mexico, near Teotihuacan, they initiated people into higher consciousness, Teotihuacan means " a place where men become gods"

But an Alien race long long ago, an ancient race, possibly those that built Machu Picchu, possibly even the god that is know by the Maya to have brought intelligence to mankind (not sure of his name) had ways to do almost everything, That including genetic manipulation of plants both chemically and spirituall so to speak. Through this they would lay a foundation stone in human consciousness for the many lives to come,,,,and this is the part you may not agree with, and in mans future we were or are to achieve this state of consciousness without the aid of anything. You may say well the bible keeps mentioning use the palnts over and over, cause it does. But the Divine plan is for man to overcome all and transend all that is of earth and that includes what you are talking about.

As far as the "aliens" are concerned they are of a physical reality as well as those that are of pure energy. Interdimensionall beings vibrate at different frequencies and some can lower or higher their vibration that is how they can be in diffrent realities. Most higher beings see humanity as "dead" or asleep. Quite sad considering there is a much bigger cosmic reality out there and humanity sees it not.

My personal oppinion is that your hypothesis is very accurate but my oppinion

I feel this is somthing of a long ago past that some still yearn for and we have evolved to a state that we can achieve these states of consciousness on our own, without the aid of anything save that of a Master. Meditation, breathing, correct diet, study, service to humanity all open the higher mind and free one of all attachments. So it was used in ancient times for initiation only by initiates whom were trained in the secret arts of the soul. We wouldnt put diving equipment on someone and throw them in the ocean if it was there first time, good chance of them drowning. So is it with the soul, it is a science that needs to be mastered on may levels.

Hope this sheds some light on your most interesting topic

forgot to mention, its not the "aliens" that exist in chemical form although thats is debatable, its the chemical that awakens ones inner perception, its a vibration , the same as breathing or chanting awaken chemical within the third eye and spinal column

Originally posted by solve
what better way to traverse space but microbes and or pollen (not sure if it can survive)

Actually, I'm of the opinion that spacetime is not as consistent and homogenous as it may seem, and it's actually full of empty spaces and holes like a sponge. Like wormholes, but created as a result of a lack of energy, not an expression of energy. I don't know how to calculate just how big these holes could get, but I imagine they can get pretty big. Big enough for microbes or bacteria (or full-sized people, why not?), to be sucked in without any damage or deformity and "appear" anywhere and anytime in the entire universe. This constant mixing of space and time created and continues the universe through observation.

And every once in a while a bit of life from the future or the past manages to appear on a bit of friendly rock with a decent atmosphere and then goes about its business of growing and evolving its little heart out, with some of it occasionally being sucked into other parts of the universe. And so the looping cycle continues.

Constant micro timeloops pretty much eliminates the need for any kind of genesis or creator concept, and justifies the expansion of the universe as the "holes" keep dumping matter/energy into it. Add telekinesis and remote viewing to the mix, and no wonder the universe is expanding due to sheer imagination.

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a huge thanks for you all, i was afraid of a hit and miss,

there is certainly existence, in the inbetweens, and of course different frequencies of reality, different grids of now and happening, there might be possibly millions of advanced civilizations connecting with us on a microbial level,
there might even be something, that we would see as an absolute god,

reply to post by Blue Shift

truly good point of view... that would sirexplainlot... time and space most certainly could be full of those "holes"..

we really cant have a clue about the consistency and general nature of this huge event,,,,
so many possibilities..

Originally posted by solve
reply to post by STARTRUTH49

 

a huge thanks for you all, i was afraid of a hit and miss,

there is certainly existence, in the inbetweens, and of course different frequencies of reality, different grids of now and happening, there might be possibly millions of advanced civilizations connecting with us on a microbial level,
there might even be something, that we would see as an absolute god,

Yes that is somewhat correct, once in the matrix the Divine mother connects all into one and all is connected, size is an illusion of a physical nature and is relative. Now that I think about it distance also become an illusion through the matrix. Time must then be an illusion of earth reality considering that consciousness can move through the past present and future, and through time and space Almost all at once, and be at one place and all places at the same time.

Aren't we alive because of chemical reactions anyways?

reply to post by solve


I do believe that AA are definitely carbon based lifeforms, also with increased longevity of their life span. As far as dimensional beings go, they are also carbon based life forms, but the technology is what would make them dimensional as well as their knowledge goes.

As far as dimensional goes, that it in my opinions cause this topic really get messy due new age idealists. People thinking they could make a planet size space ship with their thoughts.

Also you are definitely correct about the abuse of how should we say, Herbs in not only ancient cultures, but all recent cultures. There has never been a drug free society.

reply to post by solve


I am with you to a point. I am a big proponent of the chemically induced thing to explain just about everything. But why does there have to be aliens? Why can't they just be the product of a very complex mind?

reply to post by ZetaRediculian


just lifting the ancient alien to the table, because they kinda were in my mind the most important cases of contact, mainly because of the similarities between physical descriptions,, and the pyramids of course..

i like to think that there is a godhead or something in existence,
but there are also lesser beings roaming free, doing what thou wilt, well ,not lesser compared to us,.
i am focusing on these chemical reactions because i am looking for the next step, next piece of the chain, from our plane to the ones that are the closest to us,,, not straight to the fantastic mind of the creator or something,
i am more interested in the little things that connect bigger things....

Originally posted by solve
reply to post by ZetaRediculian

 

just lifting the ancient alien to the table, because they kinda were in my mind the most important cases of contact, mainly because of the similarities between physical descriptions,, and the pyramids of course..

i like to think that there is a godhead or something in existence,
but there are also lesser beings roaming free, doing what thou wilt, well ,not lesser compared to us,.
i am focusing on these chemical reactions because i am looking for the next step, next piece of the chain, from our plane to the ones that are the closest to us,,, not straight to the fantastic mind of the creator or something,
i am more interested in the little things that connect bigger things....

well, if such planes exist, that is probably the best path to go. It's really a fascinating topic but hard to convey.
To me, there is no question that "chemistry" and "aliens" are connected. This is evident throughout history and the beliefs of many cultures.
miqel.com...

Pablo says that these vehicles may take many shapes, are able to attain infinite speed,
and can travel underwater or under the earth. The beings travelling in them are like spirits,
having bodies more subtle than ours, appearing and disappearing at will. They belong to advanced extraterrestrial civilizations that live in perfect harmony. Great Amerindian civilizations like the Maya, Tiahuanaco, and Inca had contact with these beings. Pablo says that he saw in his journeys with ayahuasca that the Maya knew about this brew, and that they left for other worlds at some point in their history, but are about to return to this planet. In fact he says that some of the flying saucers seen by people today are piloted by Maya wise men.[48][footnote #48]

I really do think there is a difference between dimensions, and inside the mind.

reply to post by Specimen


could a carbon based life form transform its basis? to another, like hydrogen? with technology or something,,,

reply to post by ZetaRediculian


thanks for the link, really interesting read,,, hmmm.. ancient mayans flying in saucers,,, really intriguing idea...
that would mean that the (most likely) shamans flying around are almost immortal....
------------brainstorm brewing----------

wait a minute,, didnt terence mckenna also mention seeing a saucer in south america, and that he laughed and stated,, that is not an alien? did he mean that it was an ancestor?

reply to post by solve


I have a hard time with Terrance but like his brother Dennis. Are you referring to "The experiment at La Chorrera"?

You are welcome for the link. I have some others that might help support your theories. I just want to be clear that I don't believe in the "reality" of these notions but I have no problem with anyone who wants to go that way. You do get to a point where there is a really fuzzy line between here and there. I just like it over here better I guess.

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i agree that he smells fishy, but he isnt a dum dum,,, yes i think that was it...

reply to post by solve


John c Lilly's isolation tank experiments are interesting. He describes encounters with beings of sorts. This is not an uncommon thing apparently.