2010 California Coast Missile Launch - Missing N.K Subs - Sneaky Nukes?

I was just having a chat with a friend and we recalled the missile launch off the coast of california back in 2010 I think it was.

Added with the reports of the missing Subs from NK, is there a slight possibility that this may be related?

The assumption would of course be that it was a Chinese sub and the NK have been planning sneaky actions?

hmmm....

reply to post by komp_uk


I remember that as well. Whatever that was, it certainly seemed like a submersible of some kind launched that ocean-based rocket.

Subs need food/oxygen etc to operate long term so trying to have a sub sat hidden for months will be virtually impossible

Originally posted by Maxatoria
Subs need food/oxygen etc to operate long term so trying to have a sub sat hidden for months will be virtually impossible

Why months? Do you really mean it would be spotted as it come up for air on route? The possible sub in 2010 or the NK subs?

www.fromthetrenchesworldreport.com...

the missing subs are for real and if their diesel/electric will be almost untrackable till they fire.

there was also a link outof australia ABC news...but google (goberment run search engine) wont let me open it. Maybe someone else can have luck

Two missing subs is nothing to scoff at

Let's not forget all the rumors during the bp rig explosion that a n.k. sub was the culprit.

reply to post by Maxatoria

Subs need food/oxygen etc to operate long term so trying to have a sub sat hidden for months will be virtually impossible

The one in 2010 was a Chinese nuclear sub, Jin class. So yeah, they did it. Of course, the "off the coast of CA" is a bit of an exaggeration. The US considers its waters at 200 miles out, and the sub was in international waters.

As for the NK diesel subs...they simply don't have the range to get here. Even if you could use the few that are close, they'd still have to have refueling and THAT vessel would be easy to spot. Not to mention, their existing, in service subs are armed with torpedos, not missiles. The only four they had (had because they are reported as retired), the Whiskey class ones, had the capability, but weren't purchased with the missile launch system. Of course, wouldn't take a lot for them to adapt it, but even still, there is the refueling problem.

If I were a NK commander though, I'd have my sub connected to a surface shipping ship (and submerged), and use THAT to get me within striking distance. However, you can bet that ANY ship coming anywhere near out of that area, is going to be highly scrutinized. (and that towing is going to make a hell of a racket).

the missing subs are for real and if their diesel/electric will be almost untrackable till they fire.

Untrackable? Granted, even a few years back (say 2009), NEWER diesel/electric subs were pretty hard to track, could be even quieter than nuclear subs...but they can't stay down as long as a nuclear sub, so only hidden for a couple of days at best. NK has very few subs that would be seen as NEWER. Thing is, in the past few years, the computing power (the big hurdle to handling the anti-sub data from the newer sonar systems) has increased enough to allow real-time analysis of the data, so NOW it is a bit different story.....

You're not missing much on the ABC Australia link.

www.abc.net.au...

I tell you, the idea of a sub waiting, and the missile being tracked being a front sounds to genius.

reply to post by IknowJack


Wasnt there a ? sub discovered off the East coast last year?

The one in 2010 was a Chinese nuclear sub, Jin class. So yeah, they did it. Of course, the "off the coast of CA" is a bit of an exaggeration. The US considers its waters at 200 miles out, and the sub was in international waters.

Yeah, my bad. They are my words, I used coast as it would be most recognizable to the members here. We all remember that story.

It truly is a world of possibilities and sometimes I wonder about the things we don't know (not intending to sound like donald rumsfeld there....)

Would like to hear more about the spotting of these subs in the coming day or hours...

Originally posted by komp_uk
I was just having a chat with a friend and we recalled the missile launch off the coast of california back in 2010 I think it was.

Added with the reports of the missing Subs from NK, is there a slight possibility that this may be related?

The assumption would of course be that it was a Chinese sub and the NK have been planning sneaky actions?

hmmm....

That thing was an airplane's contrail lit up by the setting sun. It was NOT a missile. Michio Kaku said so

www.youtube.com...

I looked at so many sites yesterday that I can not tell you what source it was but, I read that the missing subs could only stay hidden for 4-6 days because of the type of sub they are.

Those old German diesel NK subs? You can hear and smell them coming.

Originally posted by Kituwa
reply to post by IknowJack

 

Wasnt there a ? sub discovered off the East coast last year?

Russian subs have been off the US coast on several occasions, remaining undetected :-

www.dailymail.co.uk...

Killing those subs was a very decent tactical move. They seem a likely threat to a surface fleet, armed with a nuke...suicide style. Plus, if culling the sub fleet was done in a discreet manner, there's no obvious action for NK to complain about.

imo, we are already at war.