Jews do NOT follow Jesus, smoke that Mr Christian

Originally posted by Thurisaz
I don't care what people what to believe. I have my own faith and don't even answer the door when they come knocking their own agenda.

Shalom

And I have no problem with Jews if they don't ask me for money, or for my life in wars and military.

Also it would help if Zionists stopped doing false flags like 9/11..........perhaps you can email them as a Jew and ask them to stop it.

Thanks, much appreciated.

Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes
You make a lot of unfounded assumptions there. On the planet I live on, radical Islamic terrorists are responsible for, and claimed responsibility for, the attacks on 9/11.

See when you make a comment like that, it tells me that you are either a shill OR you are a person with lower than average work ethic

which prevented you from doing the research and connecting dots.

But perhaps its not too late for you to wake up, the spirits of the dead of 9/11 are looking at you right now, to see if you will begin the journey toward enlightenment

reply to post by LogicIsUnderrated


Maybe you should brief through an extremely defended embarrassment for the Jews called the Protocols of Zion . These were I believe written by the non- middle Easterner Jews or so called Jews called the Ashkenazi Jews . They vigorously claim the Protocols to be a fraud , but common sense and a look into the situation in today's world and who is operating behind the scenes tells an undeniably different story that threatens their plot .
The Talmud is also not very flattering to the Gentile and has other points paralleling the Protocols .
This information comes from Jews who do not subscribe to the same ideas .

reply to post by LogicIsUnderrated



I do not have a belief in the god of the bible.
There-for I do not fear his/her judgment apon me.
My consiousness is not based on fear.

reply to post by SimonPeter


Look they were an anti semitic propaganda tool used by hitler as was the OORA LINDUS that purportedly claimed the Frisian people were once ruled by an elite of women and lived on a paradise island in the atlantic that they were all blonde blue eyed and superior, ha, a man is a man no matter the religion or race but I believe the protocol's to have been a fakery though there may now be a real Zionist conspiracy as would likely happen when you are the victim of somebody trying to wipe you out,.

Many more than you realise have Jewish or Semitic ancestry so the real problem is that a enclave has formed whom will stop at nothing and that mean's nothing to ensure it's survival, sadly that mean's it is not a fluffy bunny and has now become the bad guy but it's enemy's are simply more bad guy's.

Neo Nazi and KKK as well as extreme right wing fringe and the arab's all claim that those writing's are genuine but My mother was robbed by a jewish solicitor named rex makin of Aintree property's now is he a member of the Zionist movement, No he is a crooked SOLICITOR whom was caught with an underage boy in the public toilet's in Liverpool and paid to illegally adopt a son and daughter from unwilling parent's whom were told there children had died.
So I have come across the bad but I also have the good such as a very decent man whom is a devout Jew whom has a thriving buiseness but spends nearly all his free time raising money for charitable causes such as childrens cancer and the british heart foundation.

reply to post by LogicIsUnderrated


Whoa there, "WE WERE THERE TO DOCUMENT THE EVENT".

reply to post by LABTECH767


There are good people in every race or ethnicity . But the Rothschilds started this world domination movement as far back as the 1700s . Every Protocol has been fulfilled by the Globalist Jews and progressed up to date . If you review them you will see that the positions of authority to execute the protocols has been consolidated by the Globalist Jews . The regular God fearing Jews are not part of this cabal and some have tuned the world in to the schemes including the Anti- Gentile Babylonian Talmud that displays the same lack of affections for the Gentile and Goy . These Jews or Askenazi Jews are a non inclusive group that supports their agendas and each other . Really there is nothing to stop them from the power grab they desire . This is demonstrated in that they literally run the world to a large extent in the Banking system , News and Media , Politics , Law and Educational systems . Now there is a big push for Socialism which ends up being pre- Communism which is Protocol 4.

Originally posted by LogicIsUnderrated

Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes
You make a lot of unfounded assumptions there. On the planet I live on, radical Islamic terrorists are responsible for, and claimed responsibility for, the attacks on 9/11.

See when you make a comment like that, it tells me that you are either a shill OR you are a person with lower than average work ethic
*snip*

Save your bigotry for someone else. I won't have any part of it. Your attempted "insults" are flat out ridiculous, as they don't even come close to being applicable for this discussion. If you want a hate thread, go start one, and watch it be shut down. THIS thread, from that was posted in the OP< was for discussion of how Christians view, or do not view, the Jewish people. It's also not a 9/11 conspiracy thread; those are in another section. Now, again, do you have ANYTHING relevant to add?

reply to post by LadyGreenEyes

I would like to ask you who these people of Jewish blood are, what makes them different, how do you identify them...because I have yet to see this.

Jews are a part of a religion, how does a tribe of people of all different ethnicity who make up a religion suddenly grow a particular DNA ?

I think you are in the category of people who believe there is a bloodline of "Jews" but this would not appear to be correct.

No such thing exists, and this is part of the problem we are discussing, EVERYTHING you know can be challenged and/or disproven.

Does anyone really know what these God/Bloodline wars are all about ??

Jews, Christians, Muslims would be the LAST people to ask it appears.

reply to post by ParasuvO


Jews are of a blood line originating from Isaac . Arabs are from the blood line of Ishmael . These two are the sons of Abraham but God chose Isaac to form his covenant with .Abraham can not be called a Jew .There is Sephardic and Ashkenazi Jews as far as I know . Jesus said in the Temple that the Pharisees that say they are Jews were not but of the Synagogue of Satan . God said Esau I hated and Jacob I loved and these two were twins and sons of Isaac . So not all Jews are beloved of God .

Originally posted by ParasuvO
reply to post by LadyGreenEyes

 

I would like to ask you who these people of Jewish blood are, what makes them different, how do you identify them...because I have yet to see this.

Jews are a part of a religion, how does a tribe of people of all different ethnicity who make up a religion suddenly grow a particular DNA ?

I think you are in the category of people who believe there is a bloodline of "Jews" but this would not appear to be correct.

No such thing exists, and this is part of the problem we are discussing, EVERYTHING you know can be challenged and/or disproven.

Does anyone really know what these God/Bloodline wars are all about ??

Jews, Christians, Muslims would be the LAST people to ask it appears.

Either take the lesson SimonPeter offered, or educate yourself. There is, simply, a Jewish PEOPLE. Do some research, already. It's not a secret. Yes, one can choose the Jewish faith, but that doesn't make them genetically Jewish. Not all who are genetically so follow the faith, either. Really, this information is available.

A good read is the Protocols of Zion . Nathanael Kapner from the Real Jew has much information on this topic and about the authenticity of the Protocols of Zion and other publications containing the same materials as well as who began the Zionest movement.

No, it is NOT readily available.

I have done some deep research on my own bloodline, and found many interesting things.

Whatever bloodline was Isaac, was clearly not a Jew, so how could his offspring make some new pure bloodline.

My point is, this is a made up bloodline, and what reason would any "God" REALLY have for saying it is his.

Alien intervention ?

A religious person just has no real idea of what relevancy of a bloodline is... or how things have gotten to this point.

In reality, it is interesting how much is hidden from the public regarding what blood is and does, how DNA differs, and what it means.

I think though, these things will be cleared up soon.

Originally posted by ParasuvO
No, it is NOT readily available.

I have done some deep research on my own bloodline, and found many interesting things.

Whatever bloodline was Isaac, was clearly not a Jew, so how could his offspring make some new pure bloodline.

My point is, this is a made up bloodline, and what reason would any "God" REALLY have for saying it is his.

Alien intervention ?

A religious person just has no real idea of what relevancy of a bloodline is... or how things have gotten to this point.

In reality, it is interesting how much is hidden from the public regarding what blood is and does, how DNA differs, and what it means.

I think though, these things will be cleared up soon.

Actually, there IS a lot of data on the history and so forth of the Hebrew peoples. You can look it up online.

I have also done some digging, and found some fascinating people back there. I would guess that would be the case with most people.

Since the nation came from Abraham, through Isaac, then, yes, he was of that line. He was at the start. Why you would presume otherwise, I can't even guess. Care to elaborate on that claim?

Why would you assume that religious people could not know or understand about bloodlines? That's a bit unrealistic.

There isn't any doubt that MANY things are hidden, or simply not known, but that has nothing to do with this discussion.

Originally posted by Phoenix267
reply to post by lonewolf19792000

 

I remember reading about Rabbi Kaduri in various anti-missionary websites. Many Jews are upset at the Christians who would go to links to convert to Christianity. Hence they're called anti-missionaries. As an atheist I cannot say who is right and wrong. To me it's just religious believers interacting with different religious believers. It just has its ups and downs. What I do love is seeing how Jews and Christians differ. As well the stories they have to tell about their faith.

We were the same people once. The split occurred 2000 years ago over a carpenter turned rabbi who claimed to be both the Son of God, who came in the name of IEUE. Many believed, but only a fraction of jews chose to follow him. Christianity is what was born of those jews who followed him, the jews who were his disciples. This split was prophecied of 500 years before it occurred, probably even before then if you take into account the allusion and allegory of Israel (Ephraim) and Judah splitting. According to Zechariah God broke his two staves Beauty and Bonds. Beauty was the split between Ephraim and Judah over Solomon's idolatry, the punishment falling on his son Rehoboam. Bonds was broken when Yeshua brought the sword of truth to cleave the evil from the good. Those who believed he was the Son of God followed him, those who chose Rome wanted him executed the reason for the romans was sedition, but for the pharisees (sect in judaism 2000 years ago), it was for blasphemy because Yeshua kept claiming to be God but under roman law it was illegal for jews to execute people since execution belied sovereignty and Rome did not want the jews to be recognized as a sovereign nation.

Technically we still are the same people, where we differ is belief in Yeshua (Jesus Christ) and the process for salvation. Ofcourse God never demanded men to sacrifice animals for remission of sin, but to obey his voice whom was the Son of God who spoke through the prophets.

There is alot of lore to be had here, it's a subject you could spend your entire life studying and never learn it all.

reply to post by lonewolf19792000


As an atheist I doubt any of the events of the bible or the characters were real or it is possible some existed but there lives were taken out of context. I try to be more rational as I try to understand how different groups of people study and interpret the bible. It is a life journey of belief and faith; compared to direct evidence.

Originally posted by SimonPeter
A good read is the Protocols of Zion . Nathanael Kapner from the Real Jew has much information on this topic and about the authenticity of the Protocols of Zion and other publications containing the same materials as well as who began the Zionest movement.

I used to watch his videos until he banned me from his channel, because i do not agree with his views. I'm not a zionist, but i'm not going to write off the jewish people, i want to see them recognize their King and find salvation. We all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, thats why the glory of God had to come to us. We reached out and failed, so he had to reach down to us instead, because only he was capable of it.

No doubt however, Zionism was invented by atheists for the purpose of using the jews who wanted to go home, so that the West could get oil. It was never about sending the jews home, it was about using them as a smokescreen so the muslim would focus on the people they hate the most so that the West could double deal and backstab for oil rights. These 3 have been using eachother ever since, backstabbing eachother and begging for peace and dreaming about murder ever since.

Originally posted by Phoenix267
reply to post by lonewolf19792000

 

As an atheist I doubt any of the events of the bible or the characters were real or it is possible some existed but there lives were taken out of context. I try to be more rational as I try to understand how different groups of people study and interpret the bible. It is a life journey of belief and faith; compared to direct evidence.

Thats where faith and the rational collide. What i find ironic is how many scientists will delve into books like the Mahabarata and other vedic texts and various ancient books around the world, but if you mention the bible the world goes into an uproar.

By definition atheism cannot exist, a movement based on rationality and pure logic will buckle under the strain of it's own illogic. It is just as illogical to disbelieve in what you cannot prove does not exist, as it does to believe in something you cannot prove does exist. However faith isn't fueld by logic, it is fueled by hope. So in essence what you have is a religion based in the negative, devoid of the hope men need to continue to live in such a wasted and pointless life.

I myself was an agnostic once, but when you have seen things science cannot explain, things that defy rational explanation it changes you. It's a boring and meaningless life without having God, to pile up your treasures high on earth just to realize in the end that your life was as meaningless at the end as it was the day you were born. No man can live like that for long, in despair and hopelessness, i know i couldn't. Surely we will all die, but having hope makes this waste of life that much more bearable.

reply to post by lonewolf19792000

Thats where faith and the rational collide. What i find ironic is how many scientists will delve into books like the Mahabarata and other vedic texts and various ancient books around the world, but if you mention the bible the world goes into an uproar.

I wouldn't doubt many atheist, agnostic, and secular people dislike the bible for whatever reason. However, I see all religious text as mythological.

By definition atheism cannot exist, a movement based on rationality and pure logic will buckle under the strain of it's own illogic. It is just as illogical to disbelieve in what you cannot prove does not exist, as it does to believe in something you cannot prove does exist. However faith isn't fueld by logic, it is fueled by hope. So in essence what you have is a religion based in the negative, devoid of the hope men need to continue to live in such a wasted and pointless life.

I myself was an agnostic once, but when you have seen things science cannot explain, things that defy rational explanation it changes you. It's a boring and meaningless life without having God, to pile up your treasures high on earth just to realize in the end that your life was as meaningless at the end as it was the day you were born. No man can live like that for long, in despair and hopelessness, i know i couldn't. Surely we will all die, but having hope makes this waste of life that much more bearable.

Atheism is basically a disbelief in a god. I understand what you're saying. But you're putting too much thought into it. Atheism isn't a religion; it's just a disbelief in god. I have come to the logical stance that the idea of god or a deity is most likely based on faith. To me it will be irrational to simply believe. So I choose to identify as an atheist. I do not see life as pointless and wasted. To be honest I love life and enjoy every second of life. Science most likely everything, but it is a great tool to understand life and the universe. Everyone is different with their belief in god and how they see their concept of god plays in their lives. I just try my best to live good and try to have some meaning. Survive and enjoy life. You know what I'm saying?