New Trend Surfacing - It's Politically Incorrect to Say the "J" Word Now.

Just to make this clear, when I say God Da** for God dam*itall, I truly do wish for this God person to come forth and smote whatever pissed me off.

I don't do it in vain, I actually hold my breath for half a second waiting for the lightning.



edit: had a jew tell me the word jew was offensive, so I called him an Ashkanazi penny pincher.

Of course you will say it is a new "Liberal Socialist" policy to bleep out Jesus. But in fact they were trying not to offend people who believe in Jesus. Not the other way around. It is not a "new trend," just because you saw it once on a cooking show. It was some idiot Republican censor who decided that her expletive about Thank You Baby Jesus! Was something that need censoring. The censors are not liberals. We liberals believe in allowing all forms of language to be freely exchanged. So no, it's not politically incorrect to say the name of Jesus. If I barked out "Jesus H. Christ on a chrome crutch!" They'd have bleeped that too. See, we socialists don't care about Jesus, because most of us see him as a complete fantasy and one which no longer even functions as a myth about belief systems. Mostly today Jesus seems to be on the side of gun toting child killers. Jesus apparently wrote the constitution and handed it out the hillbillies so they could safely buy guns. Apparently the document is completely worthless for anything else, like civil rights, gay marriage, salary equality between men and women, etc. etc. Apparently only the Second amendment is the only truly God Given right. All others need not apply.

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Man! Check your blood pressure Dave. Seriously, your gonna burst a blood vessel.

I would like to know what other "socialists" think about that.

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What better way to steal the rights of the people then to focus on a subject with such scrutiny and intensity that they simply forget everything as it was presented to them in a linear fashion.

If it doesn't work the first time just wait a decade and hope those people forget or die off.

Speaking of Jesus...

When I was in nursery school as a 4 year old toddler, I once said the word Jesus in vain (I guess I'd heard an adult do so) and a little girl told the teacher "he said Jesus!" in response to which I was mildly scolded. The same little girl then came back to me and asked me what I said, assuring me that she would not tell the teacher, so I told her "Jesus" to which she immediately cried out "He did it AGAIN, he said Jesus!" and I was thoroughly and properly scolded that time and given a warning. So again, you guessed it, up to me comes the same little girl now in hushed, conspiratorial whispers, swearing and promising that she would not tell if I told her what I'd said just once more, so I whispered it "Jesus" and you guessed it, this time SHOUTING - "Teacher teacher he said it AGAIN, he said Jesus!" the result of which I was made to wear a dunce cap and stand facing the corner for the rest of the "school" day.

Carl Jung is quoted as saying "what you resist only persists", so as fate would have it, both of my parents later became ordained ministers of the church so I had Jesus on both sides of me (cornered), and to this day, in spite of my rebellious atheist years in pursuit of the meaning of life anyone else BUT the church, lo and behold I have become a Christian philosopher now brazenly throwing off the dunce cap in the name of Jesus and exiting the corner to face the world against any and all opposition to prove that Jesus Christ really was/is the son of the living God (see my avatar for more).

God works in mysterious ways..

I thought the J word was jew lol

Originally posted by starfoxxx
Jesus is NOT a bad word, but using it in VAIN like this lady was doing IS wrong if you follow the bible and are a christian.. It is like saying G D which is sometimes censores also... You can not say curse words on tv.. I do not think they blocked it because they dislike Jesus I think they blocked it because it IS cursing to a christian.. Really the only curse words there are is G D and saying the lords name in vain.. Others are just words... Make a joke or show the muslim's mohammed in picture form and your asking to have a fatwa on your ass..

Good point here. For example, "God Damn!" will often be censored to: "Beep Damn!" basically you throw the 'big guy' in there, and more people are more offended.

I don't think its a big deal they censor it for that reason, but it does seem like an odd thing to censor. The ol' g-damn is many levels beyond "Sweet Baby Jesus" in my mind.

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When I saw her say the censored phrase, she seemed, to me, to be thanking Jesus for making it through Ramsay's abuse and the challenge of surviving into the next round. In my opinion this was not a vain use of the "J" word. I get stressed just watching the show, I could just image what it must be like to be on that show. She was thankful, not being blasphemous.

Originally posted by MichiganSwampBuck

Originally posted by xedocodex
The lengths some people will go to so they can feel persecuted.

Doesn't matter what logical explanation is given...it seems the OP and others in this thread are hell bent on wanting to feel persecuted.

So go ahead...it's a Christian tradition.

I don't feel persecuted by this, I said it was a new trend surfacing in the media. My goat is still were you will not find it xedocodex.

You saw this happen one time on one TV show....where is the "trend"???

You feel something about this...to the point that you won't accept a networks explanation as to why they do it.

Originally posted by xedocodex
You saw this happen one time on one TV show....where is the "trend"???
You feel something about this...to the point that you won't accept a networks explanation as to why they do it.

Many people have posted other examples of this trend that is surfacing. Think about that word "surfacing", meaning it hasn't come fully in to view.

Regardless, you must not have read my reply when you made the same claim against me regarding the network explanation (ABC mind you, not FOX). Here is a refresher.

To clarify, I can believe it, but I question it too. I'll go along with what you put forth here and give you that, but putting my trust in a media network is nothing I do lightly. Also I never said I don't want any opposing view point on my post. I actually thank you for your input and will give a star for that.

Still can't find that goat can you?

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God bless you whoever starred my post there because that was just about the funniest and the most insightful thing I've ever posted here at ATS.

Best Regards, in the spoken name of Jesus!

Amen.

NAM

Originally posted by MichiganSwampBuck
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When I saw her say the censored phrase, she seemed, to me, to be thanking Jesus for making it through Ramsay's abuse and the challenge of surviving into the next round. In my opinion this was not a vain use of the "J" word. I get stressed just watching the show, I could just image what it must be like to be on that show. She was thankful, not being blasphemous.

Totally agree on that. Some people feel that any use outside of strict circumstances is blasphemous. I believe *intent* is the key, as you're saying.

Also, I can't stand that show just from the commercials alone. I don't know any successful business owners or managers with that kind of personality.

Also, I can't stand that show just from the commercials alone. I don't know any successful business owners or managers with that kind of personality.

I never would have believed that either if I didn't personally know a couple of chefs who, many years ago, told me that is exactly how they act in the kitchen. One chef was esp. bad like that, but his food was worth following him to what ever restaurant he worked at. I was one of his groupies.

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Here's another. After the 2,000 + ATS points I got for this post, I can afford it.

Originally posted by aLLeKs
jesus is a regular name... have fun censoring it... when I read the title I thought you mean "Jew", because in Germany you already have to be carefull how to use this... even though I am born in the 80s, I still have to be careful when and how to use it.

I thought the OP meant Jew as well, until I read the "baby" part.

Anyhow, should we be surprised by ANYTHING they censor at this point? It is o.k. to say "a**hole" on basic cable programming, and I know I have heard a dammit here and there on the networks (NBC/CBS/ABC), but censoring someone THANKING BABY JESUS? That is BEYOND ridic...

MichiganswampBuck:

...it gets me stressed to watch Chief Ramses...

Who the hell are you talking about! Chief Ramses? An Egyptian? Are Americans incapable of actually producing posts filled with the correct and accurate detail for their subject?

If you've watched the damn programme, you will have seen that it is 'Chef Ramsay', better known as Gordon Ramsay, a high profile English chef, who definitely knows what he talking about when it comes to the food and resturant business.

Part of the show's appeal is his bullish and bombastic nature. The fact that he takes a failing resturant business run by incompetent business minds, and helps them turn it into a successful and profit-making one, is a testament to his ability. Whether or not the business continues to succeed when he is no longer there is a different matter.

You really must have been stressed to portray him like some ancient pharoh, Such buffoonery!

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Chief Ramses was a pun, a joke about how almighty Chef Ramsay thinks he is. The show I am referring to Hell's Kitchen, not Kitchen Nightmares. I guess if you're a Ramsay fan you could be insulted by that. But I suppose it was a cheap shot on my part and I should have known there are humorless people that won't appreciate my sardonic wit. I apologize to all the sensitive posters who feel insulted by my attempt to knock that pompous and arrogant twit off his high horse.

I humbly accept the title of buffoon sir.

ETA: If you think Ramsay is such a great guy, I would consider the fallout of his abusive programs.

The first person to star in a Ramsay show and then kill herself was chef Rachel Brown. Brown, 41, competed on Ramsay's "Hell's Kitchen" -- a series pitting aspiring chefs against each other -- in 2006. She had been eliminated on the fifth episode, but returned to the series for the finale to help chef Heather West nab the top prize. Brown shot herself to death in her family's Dallas home a year later.

www.nypost.com...

Of course this is all way off the topic from what I put forward. Great to see people attack the messenger and ignore the message.

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So a year after returning to the show and emerging on the victorious side, the memory of Ramsay shouting at her made her shoot herself?

Or could she have had other problems?

Originally posted by waynos
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So a year after returning to the show and emerging on the victorious side, the memory of Ramsay shouting at her made her shoot herself?

Or could she have had other problems?

Read the article. She had a lot of problems, but that is the point. Why push them over the edge? It was for the show's ratings and to line Ramsay's pockets without regard to the people they abuse.

Once again, this is all off the topic.

ETA: Seriously though, if I had even the smallest evidence to show me that something I did or said contributed to someone's suicide, I would stop that behavior and find it hard to live with myself for the rest of my life.