Video shows bull dog belonging to Mark Kelly's daughter attack sea lion

Video shows bull dog belonging to Mark Kelly's daughter attack sea lion

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A dog is seen locking its jaws on a beached baby sea lion as California beachgoers frantically try to free the trapped mammal.
The dog, which Laguna Beach police said was an American bulldog mix, belonged to the daughter of astronaut Mark Kelly, husband of former Arizona Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, local media reported. Giffords, Kelly and his daughter Giffords' stepdaughter -- were vacationing in Laguna Beach on Saturday

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Pretty disturbing, people are yelling to drown the dog. Others are saying don't kill the dog.. THE CHAOS is out standing!!

Now this is Gabby Giffords husband, if you all forgot, she is the REP from Arizona who was shot point blank in the head by Jarod Laughner. Video is a bit crazy, they should of been cited.. The thing is in FL. if your dog is on a leash and gets off in a leashed only place you are still responsible for not keeping control of your dog AND you WILL be cited for an unleashed pet. This is a 250 dollar fine mind you..


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Why is that stupid bitch getting so hysterical? This is what animals do lady. Why are humans always trying to fix everything?

reply to post by starfoxxx
I don't think the breed of dog matters- pretty much any dog that isn't a lap dog will go after a strange animal, and even some lap dogs will as well. It is just what dogs do. They should have had the dog on a leash so the fine is rightly deserved, but as for people freaking out wanting them to drown the dog? That's ridiculous! It's not like the dog was attacking a child or someone's pet. My dogs kill racoons, possums, foxes, rabbits, rats, squirrels, even a skunk once. What is the big deal?

reply to post by CallYourBluff


While the "fixing things" is highly debatable, humans are the ones than can ultimately fix things, not referring particularly to this case but to your over generalization regarding letting things be...

Empathy is extremely important emotion, this is why we get cats out of pipes, save animals from drowning and when profit is not involved act in what we classify as human way even with risk to self in behalf of those that cant.

Originally posted by Panic2k11
reply to post by CallYourBluff

 

While the "fixing things" is highly debatable, humans are the ones than can ultimately fix things, not referring particularly to this case but to your over generalization regarding letting things be...

We have done such a great job so far and I'm sure the animal kingdom is ever so grateful. Here's a bit of advice. Pull your head out of your arse.

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The part I didn't like about the post you are referring to is what if you had a newborn or small child??

Would you want a dog that is acting like this around your small children??

If I had dog acting that aggressive and i had a small kid...I might begin to think if its a wise idea owning that dog.

My best buddy ( a bull mastiff) that is not mine,is great with my friend's grandchildren and doesn't act like that one bit.
The dogs temperment comes into play here.

They are hitting it and getting no result...does anyone want the experience of trying to beat that dog off of your kid??
I didn't think so.

reply to post by CallYourBluff


Society is sic I agree with you but this is the type of situation that us, as the top of the chain as rational animals get into our role, if there is something above us we should at least hope that it will act in the same way toward us. Sadly we humans tend to do this in small issues and fail on the larger picture. But it is about individuality, myself I know perfectly well my blame in some of the bad stuff I inactively support but it is easier to act in individual matters than change society to do the right thing...

vs.



...as this story tries to allude to imo...

...then again...we have this...



vs.

reply to post by CallYourBluff


Your first post is one of the most ignorant I have ever read on here.

If you think humans need to stop it.....I urge you to go to the woods alone with no weapon and tell the bear or the wolf your same opinion while they are eating you and then come back tomorrow and post your experience.
I bet you can't or won't.


We "fix" things and have animal conservation laws and pet ownership laws for a reason.

Originally posted by littled16
reply to post by starfoxxx

 

I don't think the breed of dog matters- pretty much any dog that isn't a lap dog will go after a strange animal, and even some lap dogs will as well. It is just what dogs do. They should have had the dog on a leash so the fine is rightly deserved, but as for people freaking out wanting them to drown the dog? That's ridiculous! It's not like the dog was attacking a child or someone's pet. My dogs kill racoons, possums, foxes, rabbits, rats, squirrels, even a skunk once. What is the big deal?

I agree with you the breed does not matter, and killing the dog because it did what dogs do IS INSANE!!

The bigger deal here though littled this happened to Mark Kelly and Gabby Giffords daughter, caught on cam, with people going NUTS...

These poor people have just one crazy thing happening to them after another.. Kelley always made it back from his NASA trips (obvious) so I would just deem it another tragedy for the family not a curse. These are good people and I hate seeing bad stuff happen to them.

reply to post by DrumsRfun

The part I didn't like about the post you are referring to is what if you had a newborn or small child?? Would you want a dog that is acting like this around your small children??

If I had dog acting that aggressive and i had a small kid...I might begin to think if its a wise idea owning that dog. My best buddy ( a bull mastiff) that is not mine,is great with my friend's grandchildren and doesn't act like that one bit. The dogs temperment comes into play here. They are hitting it and getting no result...does anyone want the experience of trying to beat that dog off of your kid?? I didn't think so.

So we are in agreement, the problem is not the dog its the domestication (the socialization process), I had many dogs and none would attack another animal unless it intruded in it personal space. They could bark, pursue but would never to attack only motivated by curiosity or playful intentions. The most violent thin any of my dogs have done was to pin down chickens but not killing them...

A domesticated dog acts based on the training and experience it has and is extremely responsive to "his pack" reactions, they simply function to please the pack and the pack master...

reply to post by starfoxxx
Those poor people HAVE been a magnet for crazy bad luck. I feel bad for them being caught up in another media frenzy. Sometimes bad luck just seems to come in waves. I'm sure they feel horrible about what happened without it getting out in the media. I hope their unlucky streak comes to an end soon.

reply to post by littled16


Forget the media hype or spin....this could be any one of us.
Look at it as you would look at anyone else....forget the media garbage and who they are...its irrelevant.
Look at what happened and not who it happened to.

Originally posted by DrumsRfun
reply to post by CallYourBluff

 

Your first post is one of the most ignorant I have ever read on here.

If you think humans need to stop it.....I urge you to go to the woods alone with no weapon and tell the bear or the wolf your same opinion while they are eating you and then come back tomorrow and post your experience.
I bet you can't or won't.


We "fix" things and have animal conservation laws and pet ownership laws for a reason.

edit on 26-3-2013 by DrumsRfun because: (no reason given)

The ignorance is clearly on your part. The only reason any human helps any animal from another is for self serving purposes. I find animal abuse at the hand of a human to be the most abhorrent insult on this planet, but humans messing with nature is a completely different thing.

Here you go.

what happened to the baby seal? rough way to go

I cant imagine trying to get a pitbull off of anything once its zoned in....I broke my hand on the face of a weimaraner that attacked my fat black puffball dog couple years back, adrenaline is a helluva drug. I guess you would have to go noes and eyes, my momentary panicked stupidity had me hitting it directly in the jaw/neck, hand still hurts on rainy days.

didn't want to watch but did....seal dead, check....quite the reaction time from Kelly

Originally posted by DrumsRfun
reply to post by littled16

 

Forget the media hype or spin....this could be any one of us.
Look at it as you would look at anyone else....forget the media garbage and who they are...its irrelevant.
Look at what happened and not who it happened to.

Yes it could of happened to anyone of us... It just seems this family is just taking hit after hit of bizarre events...

IT is more involved captivating because of the amount of accumulated bad stuff they been through...

This girl was being yelling out at *KILL THE DOG* DONT YOU KILL THE DOG*, VERY traumatic stuff for a beautiful young girl with the dog she loves so much..

Originally posted by littled16
reply to post by starfoxxx

 

I don't think the breed of dog matters- pretty much any dog that isn't a lap dog will go after a strange animal, and even some lap dogs will as well. It is just what dogs do. They should have had the dog on a leash so the fine is rightly deserved, but as for people freaking out wanting them to drown the dog? That's ridiculous! It's not like the dog was attacking a child or someone's pet. My dogs kill racoons, possums, foxes, rabbits, rats, squirrels, even a skunk once. What is the big deal?

I have to say ALL DOGS don't exclude the little guys! My lapper brings me dead rats, and snakes all the dang time! Little biter will kill anything not bigger than him he has gone after squirrels, ducks and cats but has not got the kill yet...

reply to post by abeverage


That is why cats are pursued in Australia or kept under lock and key. The blame and responsibility is not on the animal but on the human. You reward that destructive action of your dog, he will keep at it...

Thing is,lets say the sea lion escaped unharmed and rocketed into the water away from the dog... Jabber jaw is waiting to finish off where the dog would have failed. Then what? drag the shark out of the water and have it suffocate to fix things?! good luck - don't wear black, and have a boogie board while trying that...