Our Economy Could Be In Surplus In Less Than A Year With A 1% Wall Street Sales Tax

Originally posted by XPLodER
reply to post by neo96

 

I believe in defensive measures at the national and local level to protect us from corrupt people.
Do you believe in government run measures to protect us from corrupt people both domestically and foreign?

i would ask this of you neo

xploder

So who "defends"/ "protects" us from corrupt government as the topic clearly is

Originally posted by XPLodER
reply to post by neo96

 

I believe in defensive measures at the national and local level to protect us from corrupt people.
Do you believe in government run measures to protect us from corrupt people both domestically and foreign?

i would ask this of you neo

xploder

Care to answer this Neo?

reply to post by jacobe001

o who "defends"/ "protects" us from corrupt government as the topic clearly is

It was answered, but it wasn't the answer people want to hear.

The only thing they want to hear is "make wall street pay".

Originally posted by neo96


So who "defends"/ "protects" us from corrupt government as the topic clearly is

As it is right now, the rich and elite own the government so it is your problem and responsibility.

People like you wanted $$$=Freedom of Speech that many American's can't afford, so it is not a representative government of all American's, but only the ones with the money.

And so when the country is going to hell in a hand basket those same people that buy politicians don't want to fess up and take responsibility that they have brought to this country.

Does it really look like these 2 cockroaches represent Joe Six Pack, or Wall Street and Corrupt Corporations?


BARACK OBAMA (D)
Top Contributors


Goldman Sachs $1,013,091
JPMorgan Chase & Co $808,799
Citigroup Inc $736,771
Morgan Stanley $512,232
Latham & Watkins $503,295

If it were not Obama, then Romney would have done just fine as well for the Banksters:

MITT ROMNEY (R)
Top Contributors

Goldman Sachs $1,033,204
Bank of America $1,009,402
Morgan Stanley $911,055
JPMorgan Chase & Co $833,096
Wells Fargo $674,076
Credit Suisse Group $640,620
Citigroup Inc $510,199
HIG Capital $382,904
General Electric $332,875

Originally posted by jacobe001

Originally posted by XPLodER
reply to post by neo96

 

I believe in defensive measures at the national and local level to protect us from corrupt people.
Do you believe in government run measures to protect us from corrupt people both domestically and foreign?

i would ask this of you neo

xploder

Care to answer this Neo?

Yah interestingly, Progressives are always whining about how much we are spending on the military to defend us against foreign powers. Although Prez O had no trouble spending our money to liberate Libyans from themselves.

Are the Big Wall Street Banks Democrats or Republicans?
They care not one iota as long as they get their puppets in power.

In regards to corruption as you said, I agree, we need to go after the cockroaches in the revolving door between Wall Street and DC.

reply to post by jacobe001

As it is right now, the rich and elite own the government so it is your problem and responsibility.

No they don't as shown here www.usdebtclock.org... Household assets out number corporate assets with the addition of social programs(unfunded liabilites).

People like you wanted $$$=Freedom of Speech that many American's can't afford, so it is not a representative government of all American's, but only the ones with the money.

I don't see how many numbers are present in a governement check is "freedom".

And so when the country is going to hell in a hand basket those same people that buy politicians don't want to fess up and take responsibility that they have brought to this country.

So how is buying voters different?

reply to post by XPLodER


America has not "traditionally" sought a higher tax rate, it is only since the Bolshevik Revolution and the rise of Communism that that has happened.

Our Founding Fathers fought the Revolutionary War over far smaller taxes than we are seeing today. The difference is they were not used to the Socialist redistribution schemes of Communists and Socialists.

Ultimately though, what difference does it make if your rulers are Kings or Big Govt bureaucrats, and why would you accept having your wealth stolen by Big Govt bureaucrats who transfer that wealth to their crony friends.

Originally posted by bjax9er
why is taxing the only answer to democrat failures?

Wha? GWB's war is a democrat failure how? Saint Ronnie's running up of debt?

You really believe the the Rs are better than the Ds when it comes to having access to the checkbook?

Derek

Originally posted by neo96

As it is right now, the rich and elite own the government so it is your problem and responsibility.

No they don't as shown here www.usdebtclock.org... Household assets out number corporate assets with the addition of social programs(unfunded liabilites).

The Lobbyists, the Big Banks, and the Big Corporations are in bed with the government, and those that are outside that circle are getting poorer.
That is what happens in Communism. Everyone except the connected at the top are poorer.
Get the Bankers, CEO's of Big Corporations, and the like out of DC so that they can be part of the same market everyone else is subjected to.
If you were for allowing $$$$=Freedom of Speech, then you were part of the Communist Problem we are facing.

People like you wanted $$$=Freedom of Speech that many American's can't afford, so it is not a representative government of all American's, but only the ones with the money.


I don't see how many numbers are present in a governement check is "freedom".

The government check, just like in Communism is required to keep stability in the country, by stealing from the other tax payers, but not from the leeches at the top. Oh no, the Leeches like JP Morgan dsistribute the checks after they take a cut out for themseleves.

And so when the country is going to hell in a hand basket those same people that buy politicians don't want to fess up and take responsibility that they have brought to this country.

So how is buying voters different?

They need saps to fall for the divide and conquer as if they are being represented.

Originally posted by Viesczy

Originally posted by bjax9er
why is taxing the only answer to democrat failures?

Wha? GWB's war is a democrat failure how? Saint Ronnie's running up of debt?

You really believe the the Rs are better than the Ds when it comes to having access to the checkbook?

Derek

Doesn't matter, R or D really, Big Govt Statism is all that matters here. I want less of it. I want limited govt and low taxes.

The reason the Democrats are known for big spending is they are for more and more entitlements and unfunded liabilities. They draw more people in to their party by promising free stuff. Obamacare is going to be a Big Govt spending nightmare, which costs are already skyrocketing but which we have not yet seen the extent to which it will cost us yet.
That is a socialist time bomb a ticking away.
Greece? No problem, it's coming if we don't get this spending under control. It is a fact that when govt raises taxes it also spends more. Also the Federal Reserve Act was a way to allow for Big Govt spending without the obvious tax levied, which the people could see, the Fed printing money is a hidden tax so people don't realize just how much they are being sapped of their wealth. The tax comes in the form of massive inflation and the lowering of the buying power of the dollar.

reply to post by jacobe001


Did you know that JP Morgan and the Rockefellers funded National Socialism and the Bolsheviks? Along with the Harrimans, and even the Bush family. But they are not going to allow anything which will sack their wealth, just ours.

reply to post by Kali74


God it would be so nice to get the stolen money back into the treasury..

reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus


That's not what my Agenda 21 Handbook says, are you sure you bought yours from an ethical proprietor?

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by Kali74

 

I'm not going to engage in your ridiculous ,'I hate democrats and everyone Left is a democrat' vitriol. I'm not going to engage in your, tit for tat, BS. Who did this, who did that equates to two 5 year olds standing in front of a broken vase with both claiming innocence, when they were both playing football in the house.

Thats fine but someone did say this:

A 1% trade transaction tax and abolition of all other taxes.

Gas tax, and payroll tax,Fica would be nixced by "abolition of all other taxes".

You could add communication taxes too. Anyone notice how many govt fees and taxes are added to our phone bills?

reply to post by jacobe001

The Lobbyists, the Big Banks, and the Big Corporations are in bed with the government, and those that are outside that circle are getting poorer.

I keep hearing this all over the place hell everyone had a front row seat of just how and why "lobbyists" get created(the gun debate).

That is what happens in Communism.

No in communism it gets way worse.

The government check, just like in Communism is required to keep stability in the country, by stealing from the other tax payers, but not from the leeches at the top. Oh no, the Leeches like JP Morgan dsistribute the checks after they take a cut out for themseleves.

Sorry the biggest leech of them all is the US Goverment who takes a cut for themselves before the little people get their "pie".

They need saps to fall for the divide and conquer as if they are being represented.

Yea people have fallen for the divide an conquer the "us versus them" those evil rich,banks, and corporations keeping the little people down straight out of the communist playbook.

reply to post by wildtimes


So it doesn't apply to you.

Good to know!

Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

 

That's not what my Agenda 21 Handbook says, are you sure you bought yours from an ethical proprietor?

What? What are you talking about? Please be more specific.

By the way, this is out of print, but you can download the ebook or PDF. www.amazon.com...

I understand the actual Agenda 21 Planning Guide is very expensive, hundreds of dollars. I somehow doubt you purchased one.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by jacobe001

 

Did you know that JP Morgan and the Rockefellers funded National Socialism and the Bolsheviks? Along with the Harrimans, and even the Bush family. But they are not going to allow anything which will sack their wealth, just ours.

They said it with their own lips, and it is happening right in front of us in broad daylight where the Bankers call the shots, and still some are in denial.

"It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world
if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years.
But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a
world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite
and world bankers is surely preferable to the national
auto-determination practiced in past centuries."

David Rockefeller

For anyone who's interested in seeing some numbers:

A History of Surpluses and Deficits in the United States

This gives a detailed view on a year by year basis going back to 1940.


So according to the above information, historically speaking (assuming these numbers are correct), these surpluses do not last long.


And there's a very basic, simple reason for that:

When it comes to running a business (which is what a country is), increasing revenues (taxes) without trimming the problematic fat will eventually run any business into the ground. You cannot operate this way for any great length of time... At some point, your sources of revenue cap out and then you're screwed.

It is absolutely imperative to run a business within its means WITHOUT depending on unrealistic revenue growth forecasts just to stay in the black.