Billy Corgan on Infowars: Something Greater Than Fear

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Sorry, can't do it.
I promised myself I would give "Scare em all Alex Jones" or his affiliates any clicks.
Al is simply a cash motivated fear mongerer and nothing more.
Billy who? oh a musician, a bad one at that.
Schill...

Originally posted by g146541
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Sorry, can't do it.
I promised myself I would give "Scare em all Alex Jones" or his affiliates any clicks.
Al is simply a cash motivated fear mongerer and nothing more.
Billy who? oh a musician, a bad one at that.
Schill...

IIIII LIKE IT!!!!! Thank you, I have trying to make that point all along. I'm glad other people think the way I do!!!! Star for you!!! A hundred if I could!!!!!!

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Funny you should say that because one of Corgan's main points was to stop with the fear mongering if he wanted the message to be accepted by a wider segment of the population.

Originally posted by thepolish1

Originally posted by MystikMushroom
I remember saving up to buy my first Smashing Pumpkin CD, and later putting a "Zero" sticker on my guitar case.

I had no idea Cobain wrote so many songs for so many other people! I've listened to a few interviews on MTV years ago. I'm glad he's stil doing his thing.

Not a fan of Alex Jones, but it was cool to hear Corgan's perspective.

REALLYY??? Cobain blew his brains out because he couldn't handle his heroin addiction. About 18 yrs ago. Or that his girlfriend was doing better than him...take your pick..... which proves my point, by the way. WWWWWWAAAAAAAAAA.......I'm not getting my wayyyyyyyyy....WWWWWAAAAA

I see you're pretty new here.

I get it.

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If 16 year old girls TODAY don't know who the Smashing Pumpkins are, then yes, washed up is a fine word.

They may still have a following (Sonic Youth still does) but that's just the core fan base who believe that they can't produce crap. Everyone else walks on by.


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Originally posted by MystikMushroom

Originally posted by thepolish1

Originally posted by MystikMushroom
I remember saving up to buy my first Smashing Pumpkin CD, and later putting a "Zero" sticker on my guitar case.

I had no idea Cobain wrote so many songs for so many other people! I've listened to a few interviews on MTV years ago. I'm glad he's stil doing his thing.

Not a fan of Alex Jones, but it was cool to hear Corgan's perspective.

REALLYY??? Cobain blew his brains out because he couldn't handle his heroin addiction. About 18 yrs ago. Or that his girlfriend was doing better than him...take your pick..... which proves my point, by the way. WWWWWWAAAAAAAAAA.......I'm not getting my wayyyyyyyyy....WWWWWAAAAA

I see you're pretty new here.

I get it.

I am not new here... it is just my perspective.... read it from the beginning...you need to be learened.... PPPFFTTT...

Reply to post by Panic2k11

You mean anybody famous should have a chance to speak? There's the bum who hangs out @ McDonalds who swears he is a hermaphrodite and had kids and invented a special strain of marijuana from his DNA that the CIA is growing in a secret underground base below Fort Hood. Oh, and he once got a ride from Charles Manson and was hanging out with Gary Gygax and all sorts of similarly amazing adventures. I am sure he has a lot of view points.

Of course, he's a homeless guy who is totally out there while Corgan gets on the air. So yes, persona counts.


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Originally posted by daskakik
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Funny you should say that because one of Corgan's main points was to stop with the fear mongering if he wanted the message to be accepted by a wider segment of the population.

Then Billy is right.
Maybe he was on this show in particular for the irony factor??

Shakedown 1979...

I'd like to see Alex interview Dave Mustaine, that could be interesting.

reply to post by GreenGlassDoor

There's the bum who hangs out @ McDonalds who swears he is a hermaphrodite and had kids and invented a special strain of marijuana from his DNA that the CIA is growing in a secret underground base below Fort Hood. Oh, and he once got a ride from Charles Manson and was hanging out with Gary Gygax and all sorts of similarly amazing adventures. I am sure he has a lot of view points.

I've seen moves with plot lines worse than those. Imagine someone taking up those creative insights and doing something with them...

A persona is a marketing/PR creation they have as much connection with the real person as that bum has with reality, but the bum is way more interesting...

I can finger count the famous people that I give a crap about and most not even by the reason they are famous in the first place, the rest I actively try not to waste my brain cycles with (I already do enough wasting with some TV series). I may take notice of something out of the ordinary like Mel Gibson going nuts etc but that does not establish my view on the person itself. I have full knowledge that I do not have sufficient information to do that about any media figures nor see any point in keeping a record of what transpires...

I give a bit more attention to political figures as they may impact me. Increasingly less since I also recognize than alone I couldn't do anything about it, except bitching about it (the system is in mostly in auto-management) it all as distractions than most often do not even have an amusing factor. I'm focusing more on movements than individuals to waste my attention, in fleshed out ideas more than empty factoids and propaganda. Just to be complete I will also mention that I think that organized sports are as bad as organized religions.

Originally posted by Thecakeisalie
Shakedown 1979...

I'd like to see Alex interview Dave Mustaine, that could be interesting.

He did some time last year.

If I recall correctly it began alright but quickly devolved into some born-again tirade by Mustaine.

Here's a link to the interview: [url=http://www.infowars.com...]http://www.infowars.com/dave-mustaine-unchained-infowars-exclusive/[/u rl]

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I'd like to see that my self. Or maybe Zakk Wylde, or good ol' Uncle Teddy.

Originally posted by thepolish1
I look at Smashing Pumpkins like I do Nirvana,,,,, the death of the best music EVER MADE. Anyone with me on this???? LET ME HEAR YA!!!!!

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In case you haven't figured this out yet, art forms such as music are subjective. There is no such thing as 'best' or 'worst' when it comes to art. We all perceive things differently.

It's really no different to people who say "I live in the best country in the world." One person thinking their own subjective perception is supreme (out of seven-billion others in the world) is arrogant and torpid.

You guys... what's up with talking so much garbage about Corgan's musical legacy? The Smashing Pumpkins are untouchable rock gods... have you no shame?! Heh.

The 90s called... your music today is garbage. Maybe we should start the critiquing there. Corgan is washed up... a shill... bwaha, right. What have you accomplished in your lives?

Thank you for posting this, I must admit to being a huge fan of SP and Billy Corgan since I was 15 and heard Today for the first time. Still remains one of my favorite bands to this day.

It is nice to see a stars perspective on what is going on and an actual opinion formed by them instead of a script from Obama like you see from Beyonce and the like.


Though this apparently wasn't meant to be a debate on music I see many are expressing their opinion so i'll express mine now too.

Billy Corgan, is and will always remain worshipped by his fans, because his music was great, his voice was something different, his words spoke to many of us who needed it to at the time. I was a teen from the 90's and liked most of the music it had to offer, along with most anything but the crap that plays now. Just because we aren't 16 year old girls anymore doesn't mean that a great musician becomes washed up.

The 16 year old's of today can keep their Keysha, Lady Gag me and Selena, and we will keep our SP, Alice In Chains and Radio Head.

Shocked at some of the responses..

Billy, Cris (cornell), Kurt and many others of the *grunge* era weren't just shouting "yaya"
The message of the era i thought was pretty clear, although it fell to heavy commercialism in it's early stages it's anti-owelian roots produced some of the most thought provoking music.. possibly ever made, for our age.

It's of no surprise many "alt-rock old timers" still have alot to say, and maybe some wisdom to share.. I'd rate Billy Corgan to be up there amongst worldly critical thinkers.. back in the day.. before *today* Pumkin's were known for their deep and cryptic lyricals.

And grunge didn't kill Metal Industrial Did.. with a big electronic sledge hammer! It came back though.. pretty hard.. so i don't know why anyone's upset

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Al is simply a cash motivated fear mongerer and nothing more.

You know, I see alot of this on ATS. People putting down AJ. It's like seriously...what do you guys do to speak out against tyranny except rant on this website twiddling your fingers? He's out there on TV shows, has his own radio talk show, he holds protests anything to get his word out to wake people up.

I don't see how any of you have any room to talk bad about him when he's done 100x more than any of you could dream of accomplishing. I think your all just jealous.

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I completely agree with you.

Also, I would like to point out that I REALLY don't care about the issue of who likes or doesn't like these two individuals. I think what is interesting is the MESSAGE that Corgan was expressing.

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Then... the point that if it is Corgan or not, its irrelevant. Its the message. Then it could be you. Or me. So why Corgan?

The point of being Corgan is that since AJ is on the spotlight these days makes it a good place for alternative undead legends with unconventional lines of thought to reappear before their target audience and for AJ to capitalize on that.

Siamese Dream will always be one of my favorite albums of all time. Soma is a masterpiece. Dozens of guitar layers in the background. Wish my ears were half what they used to be. Pisces Iscariot was another incredible album. It was actually the b-side to SD, if I'm recalling correctly.

Metal Heads will likely never appreciate anything emo related. They have different cognitive functions in their stacking. The thing about art is that it takes a subject to perceive it's value. There is no inherent value in art, itself. We will never all agree as to what is great art, and what isn't.

When I was a bit more immature, I disliked metal, but after living with a couple of metalheads for a year, and learning to deal with what I perceived to be mindless chaos, I came to appreciate that it was but their outlet for their frustrations, same as mine with the "whining" music.