If you thought the Mayans were wrong (with their calender), they weren't. And Nibiru IS coming.

Originally posted by curiouswa
BornOfSin, you might be right with the message you are receiving. Just found this prediction from another ATS thread today.

Prediction

Year 2014 Little planet earth is slowly approaching and there is the possibility of colliding with the Earth, the existence of this small planet affects issues arise concerning the sinking of mankind on earth.

Year 2015 Mid-November the world's average temperature likely to reach 59? Celsius, there are a lot of people die from the heat, thus the confusion of the world getting worse.

Year 2016 Mid-April typhoon attacks, there was capital cities in China were damaged, some 1,000 people were killed. U.S. President George W. now Bush going into hospital emergency room, his soul at death's door.

In 2018 On the issue of small planet to earth approach, the leaders of the world's governments gather mitigation meeting. Juce-lino in 2000 had to predict, but it also tells the little planet's existence to NASA, on June 31, 2002 NASA officials are calling a small minor planet "2002NZT7". In 2019 Most likely solution would be to use the power of the results of scientific research, but if the earth collided with him, then it could result in 1/3 of the world population disappeared. Jucelino extrapolate small planet collided with the Earth by 60%. Sea area east Japan earthquake will happen super large still more powerful than the earthquake that happened in the oceans of Sumatra, Indonesia.

Year 2025 Climatology experts rediscover small planet, it is very likely asking questions back to earth, the possibility of colliding at 80%.

Here is why I have issues with predictions like this. And I find it strange mainly because all it would take is just a little bit of research in order to get the naming designations of celestial bodies correct.

But apparently no one, neither the person(s) making the predictions, nor those that propagate them through books or the internet, seem to bother with any research at all in this area.

First, let's look at what you quoted:

on June 31, 2002 NASA officials are calling a small minor planet "2002NZT7"

The way Provisional Designation In Astronomy works, is as follows:

An object is designated based upon the year and date that it was found, and then order in the case of multiple discoveries on the same dates.
There is a table in the link I provided that shows what the letters mean. I'll give you an example.

Say a minor planet was discovered on 22 Feb, 2013. It would be given the designation of:

2013 DA

If there had been something else discovered say on the 21st, then the designation would be:

2013 DB

If there were several objects discovered, then numbers would be used after the 2 letter designation. For example:

2013 DB5 or 2013 DB17

The fact is, that the format is always the same: Year, 2 letters, followed by numbers.

The fact is, 2002NZT7 does not follow that format. There is a letter, "T" where it does not belong.

Okay, I'll give it the benefit of the doubt and say that it is a typo, and what they really meant was "2002 NZ 17"

Okay, that fits the format. However, there are 2 other problems. In your quote, it says that NASA used that name on June 31st.
Sorry, but NZ means Means between July 1st and 15th. Not June.

The only minor plant with a 2002 NZ designation is 2002 NZ 13, discovered on 4 July, 2002

List of minor planets

It's full name is 52014 (2002 NZ13). It has a orbital period of 3.8219 years (just under 4 years), and it has a MOID (minimum orbit intersection distance) of 2.44 AUs, meaning it's not considered a threat. Only those objects tht have a MOID of less than 0.05 AUs are considered a possible threat to our planet.

I'm not saying that they guy making this prediction is lying or making it up. What I am saying is I'm always dismayed at how people will take these predictions at face value, believing what ever the person says without doing a single bit of research into the validity of the information, nor asking these hard questions, like how did NASA announce a minor planet BEFORE it was even discovered???

reply to post by BornOfSin

As for people asking for pictures of crafts. I have already stated in other threads that 1) I don't care if you want me to prove it, I am not obligated to prove anything to you. So get over it. 2) We are standing on a beach in the middle of nowhere as far from unnatural light as you can get. You can barely see your hand in front of your face. Yet you want me to take a picture or video of a white dots on a pure black background and show you??? I'll tell you what the next response will be; "That could just be a led on your bedroom ceiling" or something along those lines. I am not playing into that game, cause it's pointless. I don't care if you believe me or not, it's not the point of this thread. You know what they call people who miss the point??

Well then at least we could discern if what your seeing, if you would give a time and rough location are actually satellites which by your descriptions seem the most likely culprit of your sightings.


Your telepathic communications or 5th kind contact if explained to a medical professional as you have here would in no way pass you of any cognitive test as you have displayed in just a few posts alone that your reasoning is lacking and psychologically that your information processing is on the lines of delusional as there are no facts that can back any of your claims. this is just an observation, mine alone from your posting.

The only genius I see in your posting is either a purposeful deception of yourself or worse, us the readers


Learn to reason better and maybe your claims might be taken more seriously.

You know, in defense of the OP, and I've been critical of some of his statements -

I wouldn't go to the doctors with this either. History isn't kind to people who claim experiences others don't have. Look at Joan of Arc, Galileo, and so many other examples.

They were burned at the stake, or put in home arrest, and today we do the same thing to our mediums. We just do it now with a label of insanity and then drug them to compliance or lock them up in padded wards. In truth, even Einstein should have had a label of delusional stuck on his head, as even he claimed, he was tapping into an information outside of himself through his mind.

We haven't really grown up much in regards to respecting people in their own exploration of self. We try and stifle what we don't understand and are scared of. A large majority of the earth population, are afraid of the mysterious. It is what the book religions have indoctrinated the masses with over the past few thousand years. Whether you think you are or not, your programmed to be scared of it. Those experiences and tales that have been coming down the pipeline as long as humanity has been. The mysterious was witnessed yesterday, just as it is witnessed today, and shall be witnessed for all time. Even scientists scratch their heads, shrug their shoulders, and state, "We just can't figure it out yet, it's there, but stay away from it".

I have been to a psychologist and spoken to her about my experiences. I'm an admitted spiritual student and I delve into anything that will connect me to the mysterious to help me understand it better. I passed all the cognitive tests and was cleared of all mental labels, aside from depression and ptsd which is specifically linked to my military service. So no, not all the time, when you go to the psychiatrist are they going to give you the label crazy. I know I unnerved her though, as she switched me out to another psychiatrist, and when I asked why my new doctor stated that my beliefs and statements made the other woman uncomfortable. I of course then asked, so does that mean she thinks I'm delusional or schizophrenic? The new psychiatrist said no, I don't have the markers to suggest those mental diseases, I just scared the other lady with my beliefs. So I asked why they sent me to her. She said, "I hold similar beliefs and interest."

Bottom line, this stuff scares the hell out of people. The book religions (chritian/judeo/islamic) have taught our ancestors for generations to be scared of it. It stands to reason the majority are going to hold to that generational teaching. Whether they are aware of it or not.

Peace,
Cirque

May I remind you that science still believes in the big bang.

Consider;

• Gravity is the universal X plane.
• Time is a result of gravities resistant effect on energy through space.
• Dimension and density of space is the resulting ‘field of motion’ of energy passing through gravity.
• ‘Gravitational force’ is energy passing through a gravitational ‘warping’ in space density.
• Matter is the concentration of energy relative to space density
• Motion is caused by energy through time
• Energy is the cause of all motion in the ‘field of space’
• All motion in space is oscillation. The only true vibration exists in the axiom field.

reply to post by CirqueDeTruth


Not just Einstein, Tesla claimed that he got his ideas from beings on mars through radio.

Originally posted by BornOfSin
reply to post by CirqueDeTruth

 

Not just Einstein, Tesla claimed that he got his ideas from beings on mars through radio.

No and yes, depends on what fringe site you read and take to heart.


Tesla or those speaking on behalf with or without authority claim Tesla received radio signals from outside of earth,

Getting ideas from beings on mars through radio sound like a 50s Sci fi movie,

A bit more modern creative thought could have put into this claim or even a link to where you read this as I have read many similar things about Tesla, however much of it comes from fringe sites with an agenda in mind and that is not the search for truth but lets see how muddy the playing field can become so the boundaries become invisible and many players are actually playing off the field.

Which means they are out of the game.


Until the playing field has room for martians, there is no place for them except to stay on Mars or in the minds of people.

reply to post by InhaleExhale




Pineal gland (eye of horus) wake it up and in time you may see the same light Tesla, Einstein, Da Vinci, Russell, Cayce saw. This is the pine cone outside the Vatican, it is the pine cone being held in the hand of the bird headed people on the Sumerian tablets. This is what is being hidden from you are you afraid to wake up your own body part?

Originally posted by XGodofWar
reply to post by InhaleExhale

 

Pineal gland (eye of horus) wake it up and in time you may see the same light Tesla, Einstein, Da Vinci, Russell, Cayce saw. This is the pine cone outside the Vatican, it is the pine cone being held in the hand of the bird headed people on the Sumerian tablets. This is what is being hidden from you are you afraid to wake up your own body part?

edit on 26-3-2013 by XGodofWar because: added pineal info

Interesting.... you forgot the GodofWar('')


so, may I ask,


Who am I? You assume I have not seen the light and had my pineal gland aroused and have had something hidden from me, so tell me who am I?


What you have shown in your post is not and has not been hidden from me or anyone else so what was and is hidden?


And how are you connecting this to the Maya and their calendars?

How has Nibiru become a black hole now?

reply to post by InhaleExhale


Reason better?

It's quite amusing getting an online cognitive assessment from someone with no conception of grammar or punctuation.

It's the hallmark or those who don't understand to label someone crazy. For this I don't blame you for your view, but wont enter into any more debate with you as it is akin to arguing with an inanimate object.

A satellite does not sit 50 feet above your head as pulsating lights and spotlight you. Unless there have been some major developments in technology that I am not aware of.

And I can assure you, 110%; that you do not have your 'third eye' open so to speak. Of if you do, it's blurry as hell.

Good day.

Has anyone noticed a methane smell and had a hard time getting O2 in? Well there are millions of tons of methane released from the melting ice. The problem is, the arctic ice is epected to be all gone and that will release trillions of tons and be a very serious event for earth. And I personally think this is the timeline they've been preparing for. So, is an ice age going to happen first?

www.ameg.me...

Therefore the government must take note of the implications of what happens when the sea ice behaves according to this non-linear sea ice volume trend. The implications, spelt out by AMEG, are life-threatening for every citizen on this planet and require immediate attention.

A failure of the government to act in the interest of its citizens in such a situation is surely criminal. It is a clear duty by UNFCCC Arcticle 3.3 that governments should protect citizens from the effects of climate change. [2]

Climate change is most visibly happening in the Arctic. The only way to protect the Arctic is to cool the Arctic and restore the sea ice.

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reply to post by BornOfSin


What an idiot

It is sinful,to label one an idiot in this manner. Try to come to understanding with the fool

Originally posted by CirqueDeTruth
There are earlier examples of the scientific method in ancient cultures. A quick trip to wikipedia will discover this. One of my kids is in 4th grade who needed to do a science fair project applying the scientific method. A research project over a planet or animal just wasn't going to do for her this year. (We did ink blots). We just read all this stuff so I've had a recent refresher. The scientific method is older than a few centuries old. More like developing over millennium, right along with humanity.

History of the Scientific Method

Peace,
Cirque

this is correct, And that is why i made that comment

The ancient world is deep in complex mathmatics, engineering, spiritual astrological symbolism tied with earthly events and beings. People think a story may just be a story. That may be true for some. But i find that the truth sinks deeper into everything around us. Someone is warning us, And is making a huge effort at doing it. Both humans and god alike Strive for peace and life on this planet. But its kinda hard when you have a bunch of Owl people knocking at your doorstep with a leader named Ashtar (lol ash.. Gotta catch em all!) Same name warned about in the bible. Ashtaroth is the pleadian leader who is brain washing people into thinking they are star seeds.

The government and illuminati tried warning us you know. They pretty much shove the wheel of time in your face seeing how mickey mouses head is the wheel of time. And the owl, they plaster the owl everywhere. They also burn the owl as a bohemian ritual. The god associated with that deity is one of child sacrifise.

Next time you look at ancient monuments. Look for symbols such as a rooster, a chicken or a bird tied with the feathered serpent. I am sure you have heard of the feathered serpent. That is what the Mayan calander was made for... The prophecy is the dragon will return and usher in another age of change.

The dragon is the pleiades, now i want you to consider the federation of the light and the movements thats going on with the new agers, Satan has his followers. As for this planet? I have no idea if it exists. I do know that the wheel of time has sounded the drums of war from the center of our galaxy. Orion and the pleiades have both awoken. And will wage war, as above so below. We will see this conflict rise.

The pleiades tree of begining. All of this is connected. As connected as the blood on the sacrifcial dagger.



There will be blood. And it will be collected and poured from the 7 rattles of the serpents tail.



More like the galactic federation of lies. LOL I love the star wars intro hahahaa.
Yeah they totally are the empire.

See the spider here? Reprisents syrius and Orion. See the picture above? The spider in the arrow? Because it is said Orion created the feathered serpent.

You will always find pictures of the black dogs/shapeshifters trying to kill this False god.
Clearly, the spider is sneaking up on the feathered serpent. As it hangs delicately from its tree.
At the bottom of the picture in the waves of blood. on the right side the *good side* you can see the wolves. And the moon above it. On the left side you can see Alien greys. Any questions?





This is the wheel of time.



So you see, the swasiska. I was not over exadurating when i was saying all of this is in your face. All of it.

We even filmed the towers that will try to decieve us. They are here for the children and to smite everyone left.
I have forseen it in a dream. And the hound of Orion has shown itself as yahweh face to face.
That is why i believe this so much. Follow the wolf, you will find salvation. Do not follow the strange gods of baal. For they are birds of prey.





1. at the bottom circled in black. We have many reprisentations of the Owl. You can see the owls eyes through mutipul sets. As to show their psychic nature. You can see the owls eyebrows and a set of eyes for each eyebrow. Now pay attention to the beak area. Instead of placing a beak there we see that figure with the fruit loop eyes.

I forgot to circle this part because it looks pretty important.

I missed circling this, See the green circles under the guys face? Look to the left. You can see a panthers face hiding under one of the squares. And some other figure on the right side. Elusive.

I found this pic. which refers to that picture. AND the towers. You can clearly see in this picture he is pointing at a tower in the sky well that fruit loop eyed owl glare over him.







We see this done on the 1 dollar bill.





2. The number 13 being the end result. What ever cycle happens it somewhat stops at 13. And the number 22 comes up a few times. But i believe its counted wrong as there are barriers seperating certain blocks. I believe these seperations are reprisentations of another form of time. As in if the lower ones were counted individually. the higher ones would reprisent 1000 or some number close to it. Perhapse 5000?



Hope this helps explain that thing a little more. BTW beware of these decievers. The monuments are built, So that when the time would come such proof would be proved as the workings of Yahweh or god. The pyramids were made in such a fasion that no man could fathom, and so must be the workings of god.
With individual blocks not being the same size but fitting perfectly. Even scientists are bafffled.

Cryptic Southpaw, so what are your beliefs? What religion do you believe in? Who is the Creator? Who are that bad guys and good guys? What about Ascension to a higher dimension?

reply to post by BornOfSin

Reason better? It's quite amusing getting an online cognitive assessment from someone with no conception of grammar or punctuation.

Yes, Reason better, just as the rest of whats quoted shows your lacking.

It's the hallmark or those who don't understand to label someone crazy. For this I don't blame you for your view, but wont enter into any more debate with you as it is akin to arguing with an inanimate object.

Hey I can only label myself crazy.


The rest of whats quoted sounds very delusional. My view? Please tell.

Are you suggesting I labeled you crazy?

was it because of this postwww.abovetopsecret.com...

If so as stated it was an observation from your posting in which I quoted a section of a post of yours from page 11 of this thread.

Let add some more

Let me tell you all something, I had full cognitive assessments, psych evaluations and everything PRIOR to meeting all you nasty people off my OWN back when this all started. I passed every one of them and once again was classed as a genius. So I don't care what you people think of me.

Genius,

Yes comedy gold however with probably an angry attitude typing your posts

There is a saying; "Don't argue with idiots. They bring you down to their level, then beat you with experience." So once again .. Goodbye. MODERATOR .. TRASH THIS DAMN THREAD ALREADY. I'm off.

Hmmmm,

lets trash this place dudes

And I can assure you, 110%; that you do not have your 'third eye' open so to speak. Of if you do, it's blurry as hell.

Why Thanks, is that the same as money back guarantee with free gift on top

My third eye stays in my ..... never-mind, where it belongs is where it stays.

You should stop talking out of yours, so to speak.


Whats this thread about again

The TRUTH about the Sun, The Sun Is Hollow & Interdimensional - Eric Dollard (Mirror)

They dont even know what the sun is. Its a capacitor, its hollow inside. And its in an odd cycle right now.

There is No Light, there is No Light years,that is something we see due to atmosphere, not in space. And that means that you can measure distant stars. There is light/energy coming in, from probably other dimensions. By the way this doesnt mean there is no Light, in terms of energy, it means we're very much in a matrix of sorts, and that our official is extremely messed up.

The energy could be traveling instantaneously, without time delay at all. He says All The Theories Collapse When You Can't See The Stars In Outer Space.

It's hollow inside. The fusion only comes out of the arks.

reply to post by Unity_99


No. Very wrong.

• Gravity is the universal X plane.
• Time is a result of gravities resistant effect on energy through space. (And warping of such)
• Dimension and density of space is the resulting ‘field of motion’ of energy passing through gravity.
• ‘Gravitational force’ is energy passing through a gravitational ‘warping’ in space density
• Matter is the concentration of energy relative to space density
• Motion is caused by energy through time
• Energy is the cause of all motion in the ‘field of space’
• All motion in space is oscillation. The only true vibration exists in the axiom field.

reply to post by InhaleExhale


Saw your name, scrolled past.

I'm beginning to think stupidity may be contagious.

reply to post by CirqueDeTruth

Bottom line, this stuff scares the hell out of people. The book religions (chritian/judeo/islamic) have taught our ancestors for generations to be scared of it. It stands to reason the majority are going to hold to that generational teaching. Whether they are aware of it or not.

Correction, if you do not mind. This stuff scares the hell out of people that are ignorant of science. It is not a scathing insult, it is an unfortunate fact. Not one person that is well versed in scientific knowledge would lose a second of sleep over any of this hype.