Exposed: Secret Presidential Chemtrail Budget Uncovered – Congress Exceeds Billions To Spray Popul

reply to post by PLAYERONE01


How have you determined that they are side by side? How have you determined one trail was a Chemtrail from the two?

Are you sure you didn't just assume those things about what you were looking at because they fit with the theory?

reply to post by PLAYERONE01

until you have seen 2 jets fly side by side one with a con trail and one with a chem trail then you ask questions.

So then you have seen this happen?

Any chance you can find a pic that shows what your seeing?

Lastly how did you know one was a chemtrail and not a contrail?

reply to post by JrDavis


Carnicom is a fraud. He bills himself as a "research scientist", yet uses a middle-school science class test for his testing, credits the direction sheet as a reference, uses two books for reference just a hair above "Chemistry for Dummies", and then uses his own website as a reference.
The last one alone is a sign of trouble. It means he says something is what it is because he said it.
And this is just one page of his site. Carnicom shoddy references
And what he sells might not be a product, per se, but he sells himself, with appearances as an expert and on talk-radio. And he has a donate button and sells subscriptions to his site, but nothing is available from his "library" since 2011.
He is one of the true shills in the "Chemtrail" story. He has been "working" since 1999, and has yet to prove anything.

reply to post by CommanderCraCra

Yes. The US military has had various aerial operations involving chemical/biological agents over the US, Canada, and Japan that I recall over the decades.

Well they did some testing, but nothing that would harm the population....

The Army Chemical Corps sprayed the compound in dispersion tests to determine how biological weapons might spread if used in various environments, seeking data both on how to use such weapons and on how to defend against them. Zinc cadmium sulfide was used because its particles are similar in size to those of biological agents, because it is fluorescent under ultraviolet light and easily detectable and because it was considered safe, the report said.

www.nytimes.com...

reply to post by tinhattribunal

maybe they are immune to it.
maybe they have an agenda that we are unaware of.
maybe they have an antidote for it.

Maybe there's absolutely no truth in it?

reply to post by stars15k

Carnicom is a fraud. He bills himself as a "research scientist", yet uses a middle-school science class test for his testing, credits the direction sheet as a reference, uses two books for reference just a hair above "Chemistry for Dummies", and then uses his own website as a reference.

And let's not forget about this....



His consultant is a chiropractor, I trust his research is sound....

reply to post by RoScoLaz

no. suitably forewarned, 'they' and their families (or at least those family members they care about) can be elsewhere on spray days.

Have you got any idea how mad that sounds?

reply to post by tsurfer2000h


Absolutely!
Cracking your back, fibers coming out of your skin....tomato, to-mah-to.

reply to post by RoScoLaz


Provided that the winds and all other air currents are obeying their devious plans.
Because anything released at that altitude in an aerosol is not going to be easy to control just where the "stuff" is going to land.
How do you think they overcome this little obstacle?
Or is controlling wind and gravity just another part of the "chemtrail" lore?

I would really like someone on the "chemtrails are real" side to answer this.
Physics and air currents seem to get in the way of "chemtrails" being any kind of a delivery system...at least one that makes sense.

reply to post by Elliot


Maybe it comes down to, the ends justify the means. Maybe they think, giving people premature Alzheimer's is worth doing what they think is in the best interest of the planet. How would this go over? "Hey world citizens, we are going to start spraying toxic substances in the skies over your heads, and you and your children are going to ingest this in the air you breath and the food you eat. It will permeate all areas of your life. It will give you cancer, and Alzheimer's disease, and completely wreck you quality of life when you get old an your immune system has weakened. It will have the same effect on your children. BUT, we strongly feel that this will save the planet. What do you say? Will you sacrifice yours and your families life's for what we feel is in the best interest of the planet?"

I know what I'd say...

reply to post by binkbonk


FEEL??

You think they "feel" it will "save the planet".

LOL!

reply to post by stars15k


It's irrelevant. You have lumped people who believe in "chemtrails" into one particular train of thought, it seems.

I think the "chemtrails" may be a misnomer for covert geo-engineering.

Note I'm not saying it's happening yet, but see it as a possibility.

reply to post by CommanderCraCra


Are you suggesting that geo-engineering would save the planet?

And that we need it???

LOL! Hahaha

reply to post by CommanderCraCra


My point was that whenever these tests are trotted out by the chemtrail community they are always portrayed as sinister experiments with deadly substances carried out on an unsuspecting population. When the reality is nothing like that.

reply to post by CommanderCraCra



Chemtrails is a misnomer for contrails. There is nothing to suggest that geo engineering would be visible from the ground if it was happening and plenty to say it would need to happen at altitudes current aircraft cannot reach.

The only ones who are mixing GE with aircraft contrails are Chemtrail believers.

reply to post by mrthumpy

Are you sure about that?

reply to post by Elliot


As sure as I can be from the reports I've seen. One YouTube video that makes a regular appearance claims 'Genocidal chemtrail testing on US citizens' (or words to that effect). When in reality harmless agents were released in order to study dispersal patterns from a chemical attack. No testing on people and certainly no genocide. That one even claims that the agent was radioactive when there's absolutely nothing to indicate this was the case.

reply to post by binkbonk


There is no "save the planet".

It doesn't need saving.

Yes, we most certainly need it.

reply to post by CommanderCraCra


You've lost me.

But I'm reminded of this.

reply to post by binkbonk

Those pilots are just doing their job or so they have been told. I'm an old guy and lived in the capital of my country as a child. Never saw any "persistent contrail" the first 50 years of my life. How many American soldiers have been handling depleted uranium ammunition in Iraq? 50.000 have died so far because of depleted ammunition. How come? Because the American government told them there is nothing to worry about. The same goes for chemtrails.
www.guardian.co.uk...
Millions were in germ war tests
Much of Britain was exposed to bacteria sprayed in secret trials