James Holmes is, was, has become a muslim.. WFT?

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explain the irony? I'm inquiring honestly. Why would it be sarcastic?

Originally posted by astronomine
This is what they want the public to start to think. Why would the media/government want to avoid a conclusion of homegrown jihad? That's EXACTLY the type of fearmongering they dream of.

Uh……. Reality check, they have been trying to explain away an obvious jihadi as “workplace violence” for several years now. The government and media’s denials have almost become a running joke.

They don’t want to admit to home grown jihad attacks because it will make it clear that they have no control over an obviously bad situation. So they are sandbagging any way they can.

reply to post by Mr Tranny


I was under the impression that the loss of our privacy and freedoms at home were due to the perceived threat on the US homeland.

By connecting this with jihad, you would think this would enforce what the US is doing overseas and at home in the eyes of the public.

Well we know where this homegrown terrorist true colors are now... A speedy and quick trial and right off to the needle. I can't wait until this scum dies.

And, need I mention again, this information is from a source that told the National Inquirer. Holmes pleaded "not guilty" earlier this month. Now he's a Muslim justifying his kills as told by a source to the National Inquirer?? Cmon now.

reply to post by Mr Tranny


Fake. This is fake.

I don't believe he was a muslim. This is the current fabrication they are trying to throw at us.

Where is the video of him entering the theatre and leaving the theatre?

Who cares what religion he professes to be. Save us a lot of money and shoot the bastard in the head.

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Where is the video of him entering the theatre?

Originally posted by Mr Tranny
reply to post by aLLeKs

 

How would converting “after the fact” fuel any islamaphobia?
Your proposition makes no sense.

How does that not make sense? It's not going to matter whether he allegedly converted before or after the fact. The connection is all that is needed in memory. He pleaded "not guilty". But painting a picture of a connection with Islam and the justification of his kills through this mentality a week later? Maybe that's how? lol

Originally posted by astronomine
reply to post by Mr Tranny

 

explain the irony? I'm inquiring honestly. Why would it be sarcastic?

How do you think islam got the sarcastic nickname “ROP”, or “Religion of peace”?

The nickname comes from the media constantly pounding the term “islam is a peaceful religion”

Originally posted by astronomine
He pleaded "not guilty".

…. when he was obviously drugged to the point that he didn’t even know what world he was in.

reply to post by Mr Tranny


I'm sorry but it's becoming increasingly difficult to understand your replies.

You're saying he was drugged out of his mind during his "not guilty" plea. Never has Holmes admitted to the crimes, drugged or not (I'm not saying he's guilty or not). What you're saying in your OP is, due to a claim by a prison source to the National Inquirer, he is now or may have been a convert of Islam and was justifying his kills based on this. So what is the relevance of him being drugged during his "not guilty" days?

And to respond to the US media painting Islam as a peaceful religion... huh??? I follow the news quite diligently and I can't say I've read that more than 2 times if that in the US media. Why would the general consensus here be the opposite then? I'm just not following your train of thought.

Originally posted by astronomine
So what is the relevance of him being drugged during his "not guilty" days?

Yes it is relevant because you said that he pleaded “not guilty” and you implied that that meant that he wasn’t using islam as a justification at the time of the killing, because if he did do it in the name of islam, then he would have pleaded guilty, and been proud of it.

I pointed out that that he was drugged out at that time so anything he said, could not be trusted as his actual sane words.

Then you come back and say “What is the relevance of him being drugged”.

Well, nothing, beyond the fact that you can’t use any admission or behavior during that time as an indication, for, or against, him believing in anything.

So, your implication that his “not guilty” statement disproves the idea that he may have done the killing in the name of islam is rendered mute by the fact that he was drugged during that time. So they could have told him to say anything, and he would have. (as he chased little pink ponies in his head)

Okay, so what's the Muslim punishment for murder?

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The purpose of the "not guilty" point is that he has maintained that status quo since his arrest. This has no relation to whether I believe this or not. I maintain that point because you're reiterating claims that he is justifying his actions (so he's expressing his guilt now?) via his conversion to Islam. Please speak on the other points I pointed out about the portrayal of Islam in the US media, the dubious source of the information you're stating, your opinions on how Islamaphobia can't be generated if he converted after the fact, etc. etc.

How does him being drugged when his team puts in a "not guilty" plea support your argument that he is/was a Muslim convert justifying his kills jihad style? It supports my argument that it would be complete turnaround from his plea a week ago and what he's been claiming since his arrest. Not saying he wasn't drugged. I just don't see how that supports your argument.

Your opinions on why I reiterate his "not guilty" plea is also false. This is explained above.

Yes it is relevant because you said that he pleaded “not guilty” and you implied that that meant that he wasn’t using islam as a justification at the time of the killing, because if he did do it in the name of islam, then he would have pleaded guilty, and been proud of it.

And now, based on a prison source to the National Inquirer, we have people posting in this thread already concluding that he is/was a Muslim. That is the power of suggestion and how Islamaphobia can be generated after the fact... as this entire Islam slant was after the fact in regards to when it was reported. Your very own conjectures from that article is another example.

Originally posted by astronomine
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The purpose of the "not guilty" point is that he has maintained that status quo since his arrest.

What status quo? There has only been one plea. And you can’t have a status quo with one data point.

That is beyond the point that he didn’t even make the plea in the first place, which you keep implying he did. The judge entered a plea of “not guilty” on behalf of james holmes. So that one data point you keep pointing at isn’t even a data point.

www.wtvy.com...

CENTENNIAL, Colo. (AP) -- Judge enters not guilty plea on behalf of Holmes in deadly Colorado theater shooting.

The judge says Holmes can change his plea to not guilty by reason of insanity later, if he chooses.

So, he didn’t even make the plea. How does a plea that he didn’t even make indicate a status quo?

Your arguments continue to be totally illogical.

reply to post by Mr Tranny


From the get he said he had no memory of the event. His plea last weak was "not guilty". He has, not once, maintained his guilt. The POINT of mentioning this is that everything that has been documented so far goes against what you are reiterating from claims from the National Enquirer. You are bypassing all of the other points brought up by me and other members. Address those first. and if you want to keep arguing the "not guilty" point even though I've explained the reason for the usage, go for it.

Home grown jihad ? by killing innocent people, at a theater. Get F real will ya.
Do you even know what Jihad is ? Obviously not.
I see a lot of anti-islam idiots here. Bringing good old myth, 72 virgins' crap back.

From Islam perspective .
This guy's place is in hell (if he intentionally did what he did). Same place where Osama bin laden aka tim othman should be.

As for my personal opinion. I think this guy has psychological problems. Multiple personalities maybe ? Now of course these problems might be the effects of brainwashing done to him.

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Guys this is fake.

He is not a muslim. This is a psyop.