Homeland Security Refuses To Answer Congress Over 1.6 Billion Bullet Buy

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Just to keep the level of crazyness at a constant level here I`m gonna propose the following theory:

Obama and DHS is planning a full out war on... wait for it... aliens that live among us that have inflitrated all countries and all levels of society!!!!!

It will happen under a cover of civil unrest and lethal force will be used on the aliens. Civil unrest is the only way to do it if they want to keep it hidden and still go to war on the infiltrators.

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false. america didnt vote for him, he was groomed and lead a ruze to get into office. i havent met an american yet who likes him.

Originally posted by GoldenRuled
My 1st thought is to how the military and local law enforcement will react to contradicting orders. Obama awill be making illegal shots in defiance of Congress. This is going to be a very long presidential term.
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Too bad the 1.6 billion number is way off. It is actually much less. People get that 1.6 billion number from adding up all the original orders of bullets DHS bids on fed bid, unfortunately those original orders are always modified.

Take the last 1.6 million rounds that people were claiming DHS bought back on Feb 5th. The order was twice modified and the final contract was only for 100,000 rounds of bullets. I have linked the order and changes below.

DHS is not hording bullets

Wow, 100,000 rounds total. Quite a difference between that and 1.6 million. If you look at the other orders, almost all of those were also changed.

OMG the army uses 2 billion 556 rounds alone every year !!!!!!

it's only going to take the entire DHS 7 years to match that !!!!!!!

OMG!!!!!!


lol

It seems to me that Congress should have the power to instruct the FBI to arrest and incarcerate until trial those folks who actually are guilty of Contempt of Congress.

I would stick them in Solitary, with no contact with the outside world and set that bail so high that they would have to sit there until trial.

They should get their phone call long enough to inform someone that they are in jail and where, then the phone should be cut off.

Those who thumb their nose at the Constitution and appropriate authority do NOT deserve any of the protections from the thing they treat as though it doesn't exist.

Especially in this case where the idea that someone is building a private army is a cogent inference of possibility that to ignore it could produce possible dire consequences.

Frankly, Napolitano needs to go, and pay for these behaviors that she has exhibited from the beginning.

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Dont ruin the day with different information. Gun grapper paranoids need their boogey man

Originally posted by tide88

Originally posted by GoldenRuled
My 1st thought is to how the military and local law enforcement will react to contradicting orders. Obama awill be making illegal shots in defiance of Congress. This is going to be a very long presidential term.
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Too bad the 1.6 billion number is way off. It is actually much less. People get that 1.6 billion number from adding up all the original orders of bullets DHS bids on fed bid, unfortunately those original orders are always modified.

Take the last 1.6 million rounds that people were claiming DHS bought back on Feb 5th. The order was twice modified and the final contract was only for 100,000 rounds of bullets. I have linked the order and changes below.

DHS is not hording bullets

Wow, 100,000 rounds total. Quite a difference between that and 1.6 million. If you look at the other orders, almost all of those were also changed.

I read your link and it seems legit enough so why then is there such a bad ammo shortage and has been for the past two years?

Not looking to argue just looking for an answer.

Regards, Iwinder

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What's this all about?

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SSA got 174,000 rounds - probably going to need them; NOAA got 45,000 - whales are safe now.

The numbers add up, or it's at least over 1 billion.

This is ridiculous. It just goes to show that the system of checks and balances does not exist anymore to the extent that it should. No government agency should be outside of the law, or outside of oversight, period.

It's all a show. They do this, people will comment on it, they will deny it and call them conspiracy theorists. The whole f'n thing is a joke.

This is exactly how Hitler started, by building an army loyal on to him and not the country. Get ready America, Obama is going to try to eliminate term limits. He doesn't want Socialism, he wants to be a dictator.

I just thought of this - DHS bought some 1.6 billion rounds of ammo.

We all know it. But - why?

I am not asking - "who do they intend to kill?"

I am asking - "Why buy so many bullets all at once, now, instead of buying them as-needed in a standard government contract that specifies how many are to be deilvered on which dates over what period?"

The only answer I can think of is this - because they will not be available in that fashion.

In other words - the Feds do not believe they will be able to purchase ammo in an ongoing basis, in a normal market, as needed.

Why might this be the case?

I leave it to your imagination.

Originally posted by IngolfStern
I just thought of this - DHS bought some 1.6 billion rounds of ammo.

We all know it. But - why?

I am not asking - "who do they intend to kill?"

I am asking - "Why buy so many bullets all at once, now, instead of buying them as-needed in a standard government contract that specifies how many are to be deilvered on which dates over what period?"

The only answer I can think of is this - because they will not be available in that fashion.

In other words - the Feds do not believe they will be able to purchase ammo in an ongoing basis, in a normal market, as needed.

Why might this be the case?

I leave it to your imagination.

They didnt "buy it all at once". Even if we go under the (false) assumption that contracts have not changed, that would be *UP TO* 1.6 billion rounds to be delivered over a period, ranging from 3 to 5 years (time varying by contract). Its like this - "Hey, we need some more. Send it to us. Deduct it from the total available. Etc, etc, blah blah."

This whole thing is about as standard as it gets for government contracts, there's nothing really out of the ordinary.

Basically the get next years bullets at this years prices. For 5 years.
Smart idea if you ask me.
It's hard to believe it came from the government.

Originally posted by flyswatter

Originally posted by IngolfStern
I just thought of this - DHS bought some 1.6 billion rounds of ammo.

We all know it. But - why?

I am not asking - "who do they intend to kill?"

I am asking - "Why buy so many bullets all at once, now, instead of buying them as-needed in a standard government contract that specifies how many are to be deilvered on which dates over what period?"

The only answer I can think of is this - because they will not be available in that fashion.

In other words - the Feds do not believe they will be able to purchase ammo in an ongoing basis, in a normal market, as needed.

Why might this be the case?

I leave it to your imagination.

They didnt "buy it all at once". Even if we go under the (false) assumption that contracts have not changed, that would be *UP TO* 1.6 billion rounds to be delivered over a period, ranging from 3 to 5 years (time varying by contract). Its like this - "Hey, we need some more. Send it to us. Deduct it from the total available. Etc, etc, blah blah."

This whole thing is about as standard as it gets for government contracts, there's nothing really out of the ordinary.

Originally posted by superman2012
America voted for him, America deserves what he gives you.

Sad but true

Originally posted by superman2012
America voted for him, America deserves what he gives you.

Superman, above all people should know that the times of a honest US voting result has been gone for a few decades.

Anyways,..what I would like to know if there is an expiring date on these bullets..If so, until what date can we expect TS to HTF...in the USA?

Originally posted by zatara

Originally posted by superman2012
America voted for him, America deserves what he gives you.

Superman, above all people should know that the times of a honest US voting result has been gone for a few decades.

Anyways,..what I would like to know if there is an expiring date on these bullets..If so, until what date can we expect TS to HTF...in the USA?

Might be a reasonable question if they had taken delivery of all of these rounds at one time, but they didnt, so you're out of luck, friend

DHS won't talk to congress? Cut off funding.

Split the money between local Law Enforcement, Military, and budget reduction.