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Originally posted by Cuervo
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
Well, now I have seen everything. I never thought I'd see the day where someone would actually claim Satan was the path to God and keep a straight face while doing it. Nothing else I'd have to say is particularly appropriate or fitting to such a family site as this.
However, I couldn't help but note the sheer novelty of seeing something I've heard to watch for, my entire life..and pretty well gave on actually seeing. I suppose I'll see a cow flapping it's lonely way over the moon, while driving home this evening. That really would make my experiences in life complete now.
I don't know if Satan is a path to God but I do know that Christianity is the only path to Satanism.
Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
reply to post by Greatest I am
Satan is God’s Champion., page
No. It is Jesus who is God's champion. He will destroy Satan's champion.
Satan is reviled by billions of people... thanks to the message delivered by the blessed prophets of God.
Without Satan, none of us humans could communicate with God.
According to....?
Satan is the mythical representation of the one who opens the door to the inner consciousness and third eye. Satan is God’s doorman and firewall. He opens the same third eye that Jesus calls the single eye.
Satan is the master of his willing slaves.... those who think highly of him.
Originally posted by RedbeardedFoo
I thought Satan was derived from the middle east term Shaitan which designated a "group of" not merely 1 entity....which ultimately leads us to the Djinn, so your saying this race of tricksters is our path to god huh? By the sound of the scream of one getting sent back to its # shadow of a realm, I doubt your claim holds water in end.
Originally posted by SpiritofEnoch
Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
reply to post by Greatest I am
Satan is God’s Champion., page
No. It is Jesus who is God's champion. He will destroy Satan's champion.
Satan is reviled by billions of people... thanks to the message delivered by the blessed prophets of God.
Without Satan, none of us humans could communicate with God.
According to....?
Satan is the mythical representation of the one who opens the door to the inner consciousness and third eye. Satan is God’s doorman and firewall. He opens the same third eye that Jesus calls the single eye.
Satan is the master of his willing slaves.... those who think highly of him.
You, too, have shown your foolishness.
Willing slaves? Then to whom are they a slave?
If you have any knowledge, you will recognize that Satan is the feeling of love for yourself in you.
Who do you think Satan loves? Himself or the one who can End His Existence At Any Moment?
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
reply to post by SpiritofEnoch
I take it by your statement here that you simply have no Faith in anything above yourself or are you of another Faith? I'm personally not Christian...although I was raised that way. I maintain a strong respect for the Bible though and certainly don't go tempting fate or our Creator, whatever form(s) it may choose to take to each society over time.
I can't imagine the emptiness of a life totally devoid of belief, personally. Kinda depressing to think about.
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
Originally posted by Greatest I am
Attention idol worshipers of Godinabook. Satan is God’s Champion.
In esoteric terms, God and I see Satan as the champion of the soul. So should anyone who seeks his or her true God. Satan, as the gateway to God, is the champion of esoteric thought that Jesus and God promote and love. Without Satan, none of us humans could communicate with God. Satan is the mythical representation of the one who opens the door to the inner consciousness and third eye. Satan is God’s doorman and firewall. He opens the same third eye that Jesus calls the single eye.
You have Satan confused with Lucifer. If your arguement even tries to be sound you must get rid of the Satan (evil intent element). Satan is not the gateway to God, Lucifer as the enlightener is. No mythics here. Satan is an aberation.
Originally posted by SpiritofEnoch
reply to post by sk0rpi0n
Ah, so it seems you're not as foolish as you sound.
What makes you so sure my "personal philosophy" is any worse than yours?
Edit: The only thing you can be a willful slave to is ignorance. But there is nothing hidden that will remain covered. So Satan ("adversary") is ignorance, darkness, etc. knowledge of the truth is light, God, etc.
IMHO!
Sorry. I forget to humble myself sometimes. Please, forgive me.edit on 20-3-2013 by SpiritofEnoch because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Greatest I am
Originally posted by Cuervo
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
Well, now I have seen everything. I never thought I'd see the day where someone would actually claim Satan was the path to God and keep a straight face while doing it. Nothing else I'd have to say is particularly appropriate or fitting to such a family site as this.
However, I couldn't help but note the sheer novelty of seeing something I've heard to watch for, my entire life..and pretty well gave on actually seeing. I suppose I'll see a cow flapping it's lonely way over the moon, while driving home this evening. That really would make my experiences in life complete now.
I don't know if Satan is a path to God but I do know that Christianity is the only path to Satanism.
The evil Satan yes.
Not the one I speak of in the esoteric sense.
I do agree that Christian morals have been corrupted by their faith as they have to use a double standard to justify their God's immoral works.
Regards
DL
Originally posted by Greatest I am
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
Originally posted by Greatest I am
Attention idol worshipers of Godinabook. Satan is God’s Champion.
In esoteric terms, God and I see Satan as the champion of the soul. So should anyone who seeks his or her true God. Satan, as the gateway to God, is the champion of esoteric thought that Jesus and God promote and love. Without Satan, none of us humans could communicate with God. Satan is the mythical representation of the one who opens the door to the inner consciousness and third eye. Satan is God’s doorman and firewall. He opens the same third eye that Jesus calls the single eye.
You have Satan confused with Lucifer. If your arguement even tries to be sound you must get rid of the Satan (evil intent element). Satan is not the gateway to God, Lucifer as the enlightener is. No mythics here. Satan is an aberation.
Semantics.
Call him what you will. You still have to waken the serpent before you can get to your God within. Regards
DL
Originally posted by Cuervo
Originally posted by Greatest I am
Originally posted by Cuervo
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
Well, now I have seen everything. I never thought I'd see the day where someone would actually claim Satan was the path to God and keep a straight face while doing it. Nothing else I'd have to say is particularly appropriate or fitting to such a family site as this.
However, I couldn't help but note the sheer novelty of seeing something I've heard to watch for, my entire life..and pretty well gave on actually seeing. I suppose I'll see a cow flapping it's lonely way over the moon, while driving home this evening. That really would make my experiences in life complete now.
I don't know if Satan is a path to God but I do know that Christianity is the only path to Satanism.
The evil Satan yes.
Not the one I speak of in the esoteric sense.
I do agree that Christian morals have been corrupted by their faith as they have to use a double standard to justify their God's immoral works.
Regards
DL
I just meant that Satan is a Christian concept so, unless you were once a Christian, you can't really believe in Satan. So I meant that as a literal statement. Satanists and Christians draw from the same pantheon.
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
Originally posted by Greatest I am
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
Originally posted by Greatest I am
Attention idol worshipers of Godinabook. Satan is God’s Champion.
In esoteric terms, God and I see Satan as the champion of the soul. So should anyone who seeks his or her true God. Satan, as the gateway to God, is the champion of esoteric thought that Jesus and God promote and love. Without Satan, none of us humans could communicate with God. Satan is the mythical representation of the one who opens the door to the inner consciousness and third eye. Satan is God’s doorman and firewall. He opens the same third eye that Jesus calls the single eye.
You have Satan confused with Lucifer. If your arguement even tries to be sound you must get rid of the Satan (evil intent element). Satan is not the gateway to God, Lucifer as the enlightener is. No mythics here. Satan is an aberation.
Semantics.
Call him what you will. You still have to waken the serpent before you can get to your God within. Regards
DL
Not so much waken as to have the awareness of Satan? but in so doing must also recognise equally a God personage. So one has to waken the God/Satan concepts? We must recognise that we are culpable/capable of waking ourselses as well, and I wonder who wakes up first between the three.edit on 1-4-2013 by vethumanbeing because: (no reason given)
greatest I am
In esoteric terms, God and I see Satan as the champion of the soul. So should anyone who seeks his or her true God. Satan, as the gateway to God, is the champion of esoteric thought that Jesus and God promote and love. Without Satan, none of us humans could communicate with God. Satan is the mythical representation of the one who opens the door to the inner consciousness and third eye. Satan is God’s doorman and firewall. He opens the same third eye that Jesus calls the single eye.
vethumanbeing
You have Satan confused with Lucifer. If your arguement even tries to be sound you must get rid of the Satan (evil intent element). Satan is not the gateway to God, Lucifer as the enlightener is. No mythics here. Satan is an aberration that God planned.
greatest I am
Semantics.
Call him what you will. You still have to waken the serpent before you can get to your God within. Regards
DL
vethumanbeing
Not so much waken as to have the awareness of Satan? but in so doing must also recognise equally a God personage. So one has to waken the God/Satan concepts? We must recognise that we are culpable/capable of waking ourselses as well, and I wonder who wakes up first between the three.
If we follow the bible's story line of Jesus, he was awake when going to the desert for 40 days. He then confronted Satan and only later ascended to the right hand of God after his purification.
If you meld that with the flame of the holy spirit finding Jesus only after his baptism, it seems that Jesus is first, Satan or the flame of purification, so to speak, came next and then the God mind are the sequence of waking.
Satan is reviled by billions of people... thanks to the message delivered by the blessed prophets of God.
If Satan is the archenemy of god, then why is he only taking the souls that god has already condemned to hell? If Satan was truly an enemy he would be trying to kidnap the souls of those that god wants in heaven.,
At the very least, Satan is working for god
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
Originally posted by Greatest I am
greatest I am
In esoteric terms, God and I see Satan as the champion of the soul. So should anyone who seeks his or her true God. Satan, as the gateway to God, is the champion of esoteric thought that Jesus and God promote and love. Without Satan, none of us humans could communicate with God. Satan is the mythical representation of the one who opens the door to the inner consciousness and third eye. Satan is God’s doorman and firewall. He opens the same third eye that Jesus calls the single eye.
Satan and God are the same being.
vethumanbeing
You have Satan confused with Lucifer. If your arguement even tries to be sound you must get rid of the Satan (evil intent element). Satan is not the gateway to God, Lucifer as the enlightener is. No mythics here. Satan is an aberration that God planned.
greatest I am
Semantics.
Call him what you will. You still have to waken the serpent before you can get to your God within. Regards
DL
The serpent is Lucifer, not Satan. I have such a problem with semantics.
vethumanbeing
Not so much waken as to have the awareness of Satan? but in so doing must also recognise equally a God personage. So one has to waken the God/Satan concepts? We must recognise that we are culpable/capable of waking ourselses as well, and I wonder who wakes up first between the three.
If we follow the bible's story line of Jesus, he was awake when going to the desert for 40 days. He then confronted Satan and only later ascended to the right hand of God after his purification.
If you meld that with the flame of the holy spirit finding Jesus only after his baptism, it seems that Jesus is first, Satan or the flame of purification, so to speak, came next and then the God mind are the sequence of waking.
Lets not follow the biblical storyline. The God/Satan Satan/God precept with Jesus as its Son was fully planned and orchestrated beautifully. I do not believe he was awake when experiencing the desert. He found the confrontation involved his Father fully formed as both. He recognised at that moment that the sacrifice was not only for the human salvaging of souls but also of his own Creator. Now this thing involving the human, (idiocy as it wipes out all past, present and future bad behavior, sins of the flesh); cleanses that premise and in so doing no one is held accountable anymore because Jesus wiped all slates. Was Jesus acting as fiduciary for the human, because in my initial response he was not mentioned, only the three, God Satan and the human. Believe me when the events at Golgotha occured (and not a moment before) Jesus realised he was actually sacrificing himself in forgivenss of God/Satan Itself, his final laments prove it in the doubts he uttered about his own faith. He had no clue until his moment of death that physically he was to die horribly (who was testing who as to soul/spirit assension). I will tell you he believed someone would come to his aid. No superheros showed up.edit on 2-4-2013 by vethumanbeing because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
Lets not follow the biblical storyline. The God/Satan Satan/God precept with Jesus as its Son was fully planned and orchestrated beautifully. I do not believe he was awake when experiencing the desert. He found the confrontation involved his Father fully formed as both. He recognised at that moment that the sacrifice was not only for the human salvaging of souls but also of his own Creator. Now this thing involving the human, (idiocy as it wipes out all past, present and future bad behavior, sins of the flesh); cleanses that premise and in so doing no one is held accountable anymore because Jesus wiped all slates. Was Jesus acting as fiduciary for the human, because in my initial response he was not mentioned, only the three, God Satan and the human. Believe me when the events at Golgotha occured (and not a moment before) Jesus realised he was actually sacrificing himself in forgivenss of God/Satan Itself, his final laments prove it in the doubts he uttered about his own faith. He had no clue until his moment of death that physically he was to die horribly (who was testing who as to soul/spirit assension). I will tell you he believed someone would come to his aid. No superheros showed up.
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20; 1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,I agree with your scenario as Jesus would not blame men for being as they are but would blame the creator for creating us as is.
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
Who else is there to take rein of. The human is a pitiable unaware creature. It has no clue to ask even in this 'modern' day and age of enlightenment the basic questions "who am I and why am I here; ]