The difference between Heaven and Hell

After 55 years of searching I've concluded, in my own mind, the difference between Heaven and Hell lies within an individual's awareness of past opportunities, whether taken or refused. We all will continue to be conscious after death. I don't believe we go to Hell for what we don't know but we are accountable for what we DO know. Likewise, if you have heard the gospel of Jesus Christ then you are responsible for that information and what you do with it.

Originally posted by 2XOHsurf
After 55 years of searching I've concluded, in my own mind, the difference between Heaven and Hell lies within an individual's awareness of past opportunities, whether taken or refused. We all will continue to be conscious after death. I don't believe we go to Hell for what we don't know but we are accountable for what we DO know. Likewise, if you have heard the gospel of Jesus Christ then you are responsible for that information and what you do with it.

Heaven is no before and no next.
Realize presence.

Evermore newness that is all the future that is the time current that originates at the infinite expanse. Time floods through the anomally structures that comprise the infinitesimal duration instances of "the present' and continues down and inward, from everywhere, towards everywhere which is all the past. All impressions that every animate and inanimate anomally structure causes is locked in the time current flooding down and inward. The past is lifeless and unchangeable shadows of what existed during the moments of "the present".

That is where, by default, all consciousness exists upon death. Inside the structures, conception to death. This "underworld" of all the past, your past, is a matrix interconnected by the bridging mechanism we call love and hate, electromagnetic modulations, spatial displacements, kinetic inferences and interactions. This CAN BE hell if you have no way out of this time current flow structure.

During your tenure in space-time you needed to "record" the Presence, which the Door out. The Door into evermore newness and all the future, up and out toward the infinite expanse, from everywhere towards everywhere. Not remaining into the default down and inward of all the past which is also from everywhere, towards everywhere.

Time floods down and inward toward the ONE Singularity that is engaged in infinite rate AND angular diversity kinetics which generates the infinite expanse AND the infinite non-existence. It is the flight path of the Singularity that does this. Where the Singularity IS, is the infinite expanse, where it IS NOT is the non-existence, as a collective result of that "flight path".

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Heaven or Heavens. You will see this difference in some Bibles, but Heaven is always Heavens in the Bible and means the sky, eternity or horizon. It is reference to what we would call the great unknown.

"I believe the connection that the Hebrews made between God and his "host" is that they can see the "sheet" of the skies but they cannot see beyond it, neither can they see or even speculate on what is beyond that sheet. The Ancient Hebrew mind did not concern itself with things they could not see, hear, feel, smell or touch. It is Greek thinking that delves into the philosophy of the unknown. The Hebrew word "olam" is usually translated as "eternity" or "forever". This word literally means "what is beyond the horizon" or "hidden". To the Hebrews God is olam, not eternal but "unknown" or "hidden".

The word heavens is shamayim, which is SKY.

What is hell?

Jude 1

6 And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their proper dwelling—these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day. 7 In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.

Enoch One

15.9 And evil spirits came out from their flesh, because from above they
were created, from the Holy Watchers was their origin and first foundation.
Evil spirits they will be on Earth and ‘Spirits of the Evil Ones’ they will be
called.

15.10 And the dwelling of the Spirits of Heaven is Heaven, but the
dwelling of the spirits of the Earth, who were born on the Earth, is Earth.

15.11 And the spirits of the giants do wrong, are corrupt, attack, fight,
break on the Earth, and cause sorrow. And they eat no food, do not thirst,
and are not observed.

Those spirits are us to some extend. Baptism is entering the bodies of flesh. We cannot escape without Christ. Salvation is this escape gateway back to the heavens.

Between Heaven and Hell, there is a transitional state of the material world. Baptism is immersion into water. For mankind, this immersion into a body is for one reason--to repent. For angels, it is the same. Some angels left their first estate due to selfishness and sin within their hearts. They corrupted the Earth, which is a refinery for mankind.

In 1 Kings 17, we find the key to baptism pictured by Elijah, who was later the incarnation of John the Baptist. Elijah shows a parable of the widow woman of Zarephath. The word Zarephath means refinery. In this parable, Elijah shuts off the waters at the beginning and life starts to end for the people of the region. The widow woman's son dies and Elijah takes him up the stairs to his chamber (Heaven), restores his soul to the body, then brings him back down again. This is a picture of immersion of the soul into water from heaven to Earth. Earth is the refinery.

Now, return to Heaven again. What is Heaven? Our inheritance.

Deuteronomy 4

19 And when you look up to the sky and see the sun, the moon and the stars—all the heavenly array—do not be enticed into bowing down to them and worshiping things the Lord your God has apportioned to all the nations under heaven. 20 But as for you, the Lord took you and brought you out of the iron-smelting furnace, out of Egypt, to be the people of his inheritance, as you now are.

What is he saying here? When you look to the skys, don't worship them. Instead, realize where you are now. You are in a refinery. What does a refinery use? FIRE. What puts out the fires of the trials of hell? Water. The same sun that melts wax and makes plants grow also hardens clay. Water keeps the clay soft so it can be shaped. God is the potter and we are the clay. Christ is the living waters.

Jeremiah 18

18 This is the word that came to Jeremiah from the Lord: 2 “Go down to the potter’s house, and there I will give you my message.” 3 So I went down to the potter’s house, and I saw him working at the wheel. 4 But the pot he was shaping from the clay was marred in his hands; so the potter formed it into another pot, shaping it as seemed best to him.

5 Then the word of the Lord came to me. 6 He said, “Can I not do with you, Israel, as this potter does?” declares the Lord. “Like clay in the hand of the potter, so are you in my hand, Israel. 7 If at any time I announce that a nation or kingdom is to be uprooted, torn down and destroyed, 8 and if that nation I warned repents of its evil, then I will relent and not inflict on it the disaster I had planned. 9 And if at another time I announce that a nation or kingdom is to be built up and planted, 10 and if it does evil in my sight and does not obey me, then I will reconsider the good I had intended to do for it.

Israel is the land we come to here in this kingdom when we cross over from Egypt (Babylon). Belief in God is that crossing point of the Jordan (River of Life). When we leave Egypt, we enter the promised land, but we must traverse the wilderness first.

The new Heaven and Earth await after a few baptisms. We must gain union with the Spirit of God first. Read John 3 to know how.

The thousands of cases where people are actually coming back from the dead completely back up what you said.

Ian McCormack's experience with the "Lazarus Phenomenon" is one of the best examples of this I have seen:

Ian McCormack was night diving off the island of Mauritius when he was stung multiple times by Box Jellyfish, which are among the most venomous creatures in the world. His testimony relates how he clung to life while getting to hospital, was declared clinically dead soon afterwards, and how during this time he had an encounter with Jesus, which radically changed the direction of his life. Link

The Lazarus Phenomenon

Emanuel Tuwagirairmana's has to be the most incredibly miraculous, bizarre and extreme of all the NDE's I have yet read, because he was said to have been dead for at least seven days! Emanuel Tuwagirairmana was born in Rwanda and had been dead for 7 days after an ethnic cleansing attack. His arm had almost been eaten off by maggots!

"...no matter how much one's body has decayed, if your mission is not finished yet, your mission is not finished yet! "GO BACK!" Remember Lazarus? LINK

Nigerian pastor Daniel Ekechukwu physically died November 30th, 2001, was dead for at least 42 hours, visited heaven and hell during the time of his physical death, and was raised from the dead in the basement of the Grace of God Mission, located in Onitsha, Nigeria.

Around 2:00 A.M. Saturday morning, the mortician, who lived next to the mortuary, was disturbed by songs of worship coming from inside his mortuary, which stopped as soon as approached the mortuary doorway. Upon searching for the music’s source in his mortuary, he noticed light emanating from the face of Daniel’s corpse. This completely unnerved him.

The Resurrection of Pastor Daniel Ekechukwu

The Daniel Ekechukwu Reports
Answering Skeptics on the Resurrection of Daniel Ekechukwu
Concerning the Resurrection of Daniel Ekechukwu

"Dr. Rodonaia was a vocal Soviet dissident killed by the KGB, pronounced dead, taken to a freezer vault in the morgue for three days and returned to life during his own autopsy. Dr. Rodonaia was a psychiatric researcher who worked for the KGB and later became a dissident. He was a scientist trained in historical materialism and did not believe in God." Of all the cases I have investigated in my 26 years of work in the field, his is the most dramatic, the longest, the most evidential, and the most soul-stirring. LINK

Dr. Richard Eby was a professor and obstetrician who fell off a second story balcony in Chicago and hit his head and died instantly and found himself in Paradise. When he came back to a bloodless corpse in the hospital morgue, the athiest Doctor refused to believe he was alive and told him to 'shut up and don't give me any of that #' because he knew that Eby had been taken into the hospital as a totally bloodless dead body.

Originally posted by 2XOHsurf
After 55 years of searching I've concluded, in my own mind, the difference between Heaven and Hell lies within an individual's awareness of past opportunities, whether taken or refused. We all will continue to be conscious after death. I don't believe we go to Hell for what we don't know but we are accountable for what we DO know. Likewise, if you have heard the gospel of Jesus Christ then you are responsible for that information and what you do with it.

The difference between hell and heaven is that hell is cold and heaven is hot.

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The difference between Heaven and Hell

The only differences between persons, places or things that don't exist is the word used to label them.

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The thousands of cases where people are actually coming back from the dead completely back up what you said.

Death is permanent. "Near-death" means literally near death. So what you have are a thousand cases of people being near death.

Originally posted by LesMisanthrope
Death is permanent. "Near-death" means literally near death. So what you have are a thousand cases of people being near death.

The Word of God says otherwise.

Jesus did not come back from "Near-death".

The resurrection of Jesus, Lazarus, and countless others (videos above) are proof that death IS in fact reversable.

"From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things ... and be killed, and be raised again the third day." Matthew 16:21 (Mark 8:31)

Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die.

Do you believe this?" She said to Him, "Yes, Lord, I believe that You are the Christ, the Son of God, who is to come into the world." - John 11

The difference is nothing more than the individual perception. What one sees as heaven, another sees as hell and vice versa.

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And since when is analogy proof? Right—never.

Originally posted by 2XOHsurf
After 55 years of searching I've concluded, in my own mind, the difference between Heaven and Hell lies within an individual's awareness of past opportunities, whether taken or refused.

I've determined that Heaven is getting everything you ever wanted.
And Hell is getting 10 percent too much of everything you ever wanted.