Obama's 30 or so Former Israeli "Classmates" @ Columbia University Don't Recall Him - AT ALL!

reply to post by POXUSA



Nobody knew him. Hell, I still don't.

reply to post by POXUSA



So what if they can't remember them. They've seen so many people at the college most likely and trying to recall one person that doesn't stand out to them does not mean anything to me. If you don't remember a person, them being president isn't going to make that much of a deal, some people might make efforts to try and later say "yeah now that I think about it I do" and are in the end lying to themselves because they are trying too hard to remember.

A similar situation would be me getting robbed at gunpoint by some robbers and I'm able to see their face, but later after the robbery occurred I couldn't recognize them if I saw them. Later on the cops apprehend the suspects and tell me they have pictures of the robbers and would like me to identify them. Does that mean I should be able to identify them since I looked them in the face before I was robbed or do you think it seems weird that I can't identify them? Does it mean I wasn't robbed even though I can't Identify them?

A small question?
Were all 25 classmates white people?
Maybe they just didnt hang with Barry.?.....

reply to post by stirling


Who knows.......

I would have expected more students to have come forward and say they knew him. I wonder how many people really did see or know Obama? There should be hundreds, and even more after he became President. His real brother sure knows how to ham it up, and say how much he "knows" his brother.......

just wondering you do not have the tradition meeting of classmates peoples 25 year www.youtube.com... Medvedev www.youtube.com... or photo classmates V.V.Putin img1.liveinternet.ru...

reply to post by stirling


LOL!!! Even more of a reason that they should have remembered him...Everyone remembers the only Black fellow in the class...

Yes, of course... in fact he doesn't exist at all!! Because a group of "Israelis say they can't remember".
seems legit.

Originally posted by POXUSA

Originally posted by Krazysh0t
reply to post by lee anoma

 

Now this is the kind of evidence I was waiting for. I knew that there was more to this story then was being presented.

What's been presented on those 'scam pages' as "evidence" is laughable - false CIA/Secret Service nonsense information - and this administration is very good at that. There is ZERO evidence........anyone who states that they saw BHO or attended a class with Obama is a paid liar..........The gavel has been slammed on BHO once and for all - case closed.

edit on 18-3-2013 by POXUSA because: txt

So, what you're basically saying here is that the people your OP talks about are credible in NOT remembering something. However, anyone who DOES remember anything supporting the President is a paid liar ...and any documentary evidence (and there are thousands of pages of it..I've been though a good portion of it online... ORIGINAL immigration memos, files and documents..etc) is all fabricated propaganda and frauds to support a lie?

Was this a thread to explore the topic, look for truth or just Rant? It sounds like you made up your mind and just came to educate us...with no room for further discussion on the matter?

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000


Was this a thread to explore the topic, look for truth or just Rant? It sounds like you made up your mind and just came to educate us...with no room for further discussion on the matter?

Agree.

I might not like this President, but the so called "proof" is far from compelling.........

Originally posted by Krazysh0t
Just going to play devil's advocate here, but I'm currently in college and I would fail to tell you the people who I've taken classes with 2 or 3 semesters ago much less asked to remember them 30 years later. Now I have a particularly bad short term memory and I don't pay attention to my classmates all too often, however I still find it hard to believe that even people with the best memories would remember someone they went to class with 30 years ago. I don't know, maybe I'm sitting from a biased position due to my poor memory. Would someone be so kind as to let me know if you went to college 30 years ago, can you remember the faces and names of the people you went to class with?

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I graduated high school more than thirty years ago, and still remember quite a number of people from there. large class, and people remember me as well, including many that were NOT in my graduating class. So, I would expect people to remember those that were in their college class even more. A person in the same class that would have stood out should be even easier to remember.

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
So, what you're basically saying here is that the people your OP talks about are credible in NOT remembering something. However, anyone who DOES remember anything supporting the President is a paid liar ...and any documentary evidence (and there are thousands of pages of it..I've been though a good portion of it online... ORIGINAL immigration memos, files and documents..etc) is all fabricated propaganda and frauds to support a lie?

Was this a thread to explore the topic, look for truth or just Rant? It sounds like you made up your mind and just came to educate us...with no room for further discussion on the matter?

"Original immigration memos"?? I could not help but notice that particular item. Immigration memos for him?

Originally posted by flyswatter

Originally posted by POXUSA

Originally posted by lee anoma

Originally posted by POXUSA
What's been presented on those 'scam pages' as "evidence" is laughable - false CIA/Secret Service nonsense information - and this administration is very good at that. There is ZERO evidence........anyone who states that they saw BHO or attended a class with Obama is a paid liar..........The gavel has been slammed on BHO once and for all - case closed.

Case and point.Evidence from Columbia College itself, and past alumni are insufficient to rumors and speculation.We're not dealing with a topic the OP wants to debate, but rather a notion the OP has already cemented in his mind as 'fact' and wants to have us all believe even in the face of verifiable contradictory evidence.There is nothing left here to discuss.

- Lee

That post of mine (above) and the opening post of the thread are of the very same tenor and tone. So if you are going to refer to what I had written and the attitude that underpins what I said please go back and read the first post - thank you.

BTW - why are ALL of Obama's school records sealed and kept from public scrutiny ? Not only his school records incidentally - but ALL records having anything to do with his entire life. Why? Could it be that he is a fictional character? Methinks so.

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All of your school records are sealed and kept from public scrutiny, why are you hiding everything, huh? Oh wait, so are mine. Something mysterious must be going on!

There are personal records that are sealed by default, with others only allowed to view them by way of explicit written consent from the involved party.

Yet again, you're attempting to push a birther myth that all of his records are sealed by some magical power. View the threads here that have destroyed that myth, and at least educate yourself enough to put forth a valid argument.

Obama sealed his records by executive order, you can look at the white house web site. He did so as his first act in office, executive order 13489. This is no myth, or magical power, just facts, signed and sealed by the dear leader himself. You should "educate yourself".

Originally posted by pyramid head
Obama sealed his records by executive order, you can look at the white house web site. He did so as his first act in office, executive order 13489.

Why do people have to lie about Obama?

www.gpo.gov...

Where does it state he sealed his personal records? It doesnt, of course. That silly claim is just a birther lie.

You should "educate yourself".

Actually, you are the one that needs to be educated - you seem to think research is just cutting and pasting nonsense from birther sites!

Originally posted by hellobruce

Originally posted by pyramid head
Obama sealed his records by executive order, you can look at the white house web site. He did so as his first act in office, executive order 13489.

Why do people have to lie about Obama?

www.gpo.gov...

Where does it state he sealed his personal records? It doesnt, of course. That silly claim is just a birther lie.

You should "educate yourself".

Actually, you are the one that needs to be educated - you seem to think research is just cutting and pasting nonsense from birther sites!

Please don't bring logic into a thread that rejects logic.

Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
So, what you're basically saying here is that the people your OP talks about are credible in NOT remembering something. However, anyone who DOES remember anything supporting the President is a paid liar ...and any documentary evidence (and there are thousands of pages of it..I've been though a good portion of it online... ORIGINAL immigration memos, files and documents..etc) is all fabricated propaganda and frauds to support a lie?

Was this a thread to explore the topic, look for truth or just Rant? It sounds like you made up your mind and just came to educate us...with no room for further discussion on the matter?

"Original immigration memos"?? I could not help but notice that particular item. Immigration memos for him?

No, actually... The entire files were released by FOIA on the immigration and Government contact with his Mother, biological Father and later, Step-Father (in separate as well as related lines of requests or contact). Obama is mentioned, but casually in a handful as the son and related child to the adults it's all about.

Indonesia generated the most and some from the Indonesian Government, whom his Step-Father apparently worked for. University education back then and there? Not surprising....and it explains how Obama (Barry Soetoro on the paperwork at that time) attended the state school and then somehow got into the Catholic private school (not cheap in Jakarta, I'm sure.) for the other half of his time there.

His mother met the Step-Father at school though and all the paperwork was requests, rejections or acceptance (at different stages of the process, with different people) to get him back to the US from Indonesia on more than a short term status. It's really amazing how much you learn about people, reading through years worth of general back and forth reports with typical nosey government levels of detail.

Anyway, googling it will bring that stuff up quick enough, or just go to snopes. It's not what snopes says that matters, it's the fact they source back almost everything and the snopes page does source back into those FOIA dump files of 60's and 70's Gov't documents.

They also aren't the least bit kind or flattering in some ways, in a real personal and family way. It's among the reasons I don't link to it all anymore (There is a thread on here where I linked all of it, when I'd first spent the time to find it all). The fact I've only read some things deep inside those FOIA dumps on routine memos either shows everyone has just as much decency to not bring some personal things into the Obama debate ...or that few people read that far into it. Heck... I hadn't, until fairly recently.

I dislike Obama for his mindset, worldview and policies. His general biography for background though? Well, the only thing I really want to know now (aside from a couple minor details on the birth cert...and location has no part of it) is what kind of grades he got before being a lecturer on Constitutional matters to others for the period he did it. He doesn't seem to know much about the Constitution as it turns out....so I'm really serious in saying I want to see those transcripts for grades. Perhaps in the Presidential Library? Perhaps not with this one...even there, he may keep most things out. Secrecy for the sheer sake of it sometimes.

There is no one graduating "class" per se of same students...even though we call it that. Its not like High School where you see the same bunch everyday for years.

Colleges have all different classes, taken by all different students at the same time, on all different subjects, class times and instructors, grades and places in both 2 and 4 year degree programs...all with different agendas and majors and minors. Some part time, some full time, some skipping semesters and returning another time.

To say no one in his CLASS remembers him...theres hundreds of classes and times, locations and instructors for your "one" graduating class.

DENY IGNORANCE

reply to post by Krazysh0t


Yes, I remember my classmates. However, it was a small college and I remember the fellow choir members the best. We saw each other every day and went on tour together so we got pretty tight.

The average college student does NOT have this kind of contact with fellow students. You get to know the most :

a. roomates

b. fellow sports team members

c. fellow majors students who take the same classes

d. fellow frat and sorority members

Originally posted by pyramid head

Originally posted by flyswatter

Originally posted by POXUSA

Originally posted by lee anoma

Originally posted by POXUSA
What's been presented on those 'scam pages' as "evidence" is laughable - false CIA/Secret Service nonsense information - and this administration is very good at that. There is ZERO evidence........anyone who states that they saw BHO or attended a class with Obama is a paid liar..........The gavel has been slammed on BHO once and for all - case closed.

Case and point.Evidence from Columbia College itself, and past alumni are insufficient to rumors and speculation.We're not dealing with a topic the OP wants to debate, but rather a notion the OP has already cemented in his mind as 'fact' and wants to have us all believe even in the face of verifiable contradictory evidence.There is nothing left here to discuss.

- Lee

That post of mine (above) and the opening post of the thread are of the very same tenor and tone. So if you are going to refer to what I had written and the attitude that underpins what I said please go back and read the first post - thank you.

BTW - why are ALL of Obama's school records sealed and kept from public scrutiny ? Not only his school records incidentally - but ALL records having anything to do with his entire life. Why? Could it be that he is a fictional character? Methinks so.

edit on 18-3-2013 by POXUSA because: txt

All of your school records are sealed and kept from public scrutiny, why are you hiding everything, huh? Oh wait, so are mine. Something mysterious must be going on!

There are personal records that are sealed by default, with others only allowed to view them by way of explicit written consent from the involved party.

Yet again, you're attempting to push a birther myth that all of his records are sealed by some magical power. View the threads here that have destroyed that myth, and at least educate yourself enough to put forth a valid argument.

Obama sealed his records by executive order, you can look at the white house web site. He did so as his first act in office, executive order 13489. This is no myth, or magical power, just facts, signed and sealed by the dear leader himself. You should "educate yourself".

OMG, you are completely ignorant of the facts about this. He did not seal his personal records by executive order. If you're going to try and show me that I am wrong, please at least have the slightest bit of knowledge on the matter. That string of Executive Orders dealt with past Presidential records, not the personal records of Presidents. If you are unaware of the difference between the two, please exit this thread and take the time to learn.

I remember the names and faces of nearly everyone from my high school years.
And that was 35 years ago.
Obama is younger .. and his college years aren't that far back.
I'm surprised that people don't remember him.

ETA .. most of my college was on a military post so it's kind of a different set up.

But perhaps the answer is with what Deetermined said previously ...

Originally posted by Deetermined
Considering that most of Obama's friends from Occidental and Columbia were Pakistani, I don't think it's too far fetched that his social circle didn't include Israelis,

If true, Obama hung out with the Pakistanis and not with the Israelis. Considering how his Black Liberation Theology church in Chicago feels about Israelis and considering how poorly he gets along with the leadership of Israel ... I'm willing to bet he had his anti-Israel/pro-muslim bias going strong in college and therefore he simply didn't hang out with the Israelis, but instead hung out with the Pakistanis.

That's a good possibility anyways ....

reply to post by POXUSA


Yeah, so ?

I bet you I can find hundreds of people today who don't remember going to Elementary, Jr. High or HighSchool with me because I was a loner. I bet YOU I can find people who YOU went to school with who don't know who the **** YOU are.

As for Obama, I don't take the word of one racist Israeli . I'm sorry, but I would have to see the entire panel of these 30 people all saying they went to that school and don't know Obama. Why, because LATELY Israelis and LIARS seem to be synonymous.