Global warming proved to be fake

Originally posted by FaithandArms
I haven't seen it mentioned yet, but mabe I missed it. Has anyone bothered to take into account the effect that the Amazon rainforest has on worldwide weather patterns?

When I was much younger and in school they taught us that the Amazon was so massive that it created its own weather system and that it pulled a percentage of the world's CO2 out of the air to feed all the plants within itself. I know they were haivng a problem with poor farmers and lumber operations clearing the forests. I wonder if they slashed and burned enough of it if it would cause noticeable weather changes?

For the record I believe Global Warming is simply a scam to separate people from their money. A couple decades ago the fad was worrying about Global Cooling. When I was in school they taught about the 7 yr swing from El Nino and La Nina? weather patterns. I never hear that mentioned at all anymore when people talk about cyclical weather cycles.

I have no doubt we have some effect on weather, but the earth has warmed up and cooled down drastically long before humans even lived on it. I suspect solar activity and volcanoes have more effect than we humans do.

Yes, the El Nino effect (warming of the Pacific Ocean) has been shown to effect the weather

on Earth. However, it's hard to TAX El Nino so....just ignore it.

Blame mankind 100% and ignore the sun also.

reply to post by TauCetixeta


Climate science ignores neither.

Its been clear for years that the earth temp fluctuates. Thats why we had ice ages, etc.


Thanks for the reminder. People beleive in global warming because they bank of of it or because it makes them feel morally superior.

The sun has nothing to do with earths temperature at all. Its all humans fault. LMAO

Originally posted by FaithandArms
I haven't seen it mentioned yet, but maybe I missed it. Has anyone bothered to take into account the effect that the Amazon rainforest has on worldwide weather patterns?

Yes, they have.

Apparently Amazon deforestation was predicted to increase drought in Texas.

www.nasa.gov...

Have there been any drought issues in Texas lately?*


* rhetorical question

Originally posted by LastStarfighter

The sun has nothing to do with earths temperature at all. Its all humans fault. LMAO

Lots of things affect Earth's cimate. Including human activity. Most of them we can do nothing about. human activity we can.

Religious denial doesn't stop it happening.

Do you # in your bed? Do you complain when people say you should not # in your bed? Humans are #ting in their beds by unnecessarily contributing to climate change, to their detriment.

No wonder aliens treat us like ants - funny to watch but really not that clever .......

Originally posted by AndyMayhew

Originally posted by LastStarfighter

The sun has nothing to do with earths temperature at all. Its all humans fault. LMAO

Lots of things affect Earth's cimate. Including human activity. Most of them we can do nothing about. human activity we can.

Religious denial doesn't stop it happening.

Do you # in your bed? Do you complain when people say you should not # in your bed? Humans are #ting in their beds by unnecessarily contributing to climate change, to their detriment.

No wonder aliens treat us like ants - funny to watch but really not that clever .......

Food for thought: The Sun

Without the sun Earth would be an icy rock with an overall temperature of -273 degrees

Celsius. Climate Change is all about politics and fear, not about the Earth's temperature.

Lol your reply is quite funny about defecating in bed. Now I beleive in global warming since you made that clear. lol

How do the aliens treat you since you don't defecate in bed? lol

Originally posted by TauCetixeta

Food for thought: The Sun

Without the sun Earth would be an icy rock with an overall temperature of -273 degrees

Celsius. Climate Change is all about politics and fear, not about the Earth's temperature.

And without the 'greenhouse effect' (which has nothing to do with greenhouses!) then even with the sun we'd have an average temperature of -18c

www.ncdc.noaa.gov...

Which even I'd find a bit chilly

Climate change is science. Just because science is used by politicians does not mean the science is wrong! They do the same with tobacco and alcohol, using science to justify taxes. Do you deny that smoking 60 cigarettes a day and drinking 20 pints of beer a day is bad for you, just because the govt tax you for doing so?

Originally posted by Dr X
man-made global warming is now considered fact by the scientific community.
The daily mail is a conservative funded propaganda "paper" playing its anti-science card, and probably funded by the oil lobby.
We are dangerously close to causing ecological catastrophe by the warming of this planet due to increased levels of CO2. As the temperature rises ecosystems can collapse due to the sudden changes: loss of habitat, acidification of the oceans etc. Life exists in a balance that does not like sudden change in the environment.
As the Earth warms the weather becomes more chaotic. I have seen this IN MY OWN LIFETIME.
It is truly scary how human pollution can so dramatically effect our weather.
It is time for us to drive electric cars, invest in solar and nuclear fusion research.
I can't believe the amount of people here that think a scientific fact is a scam to make money.
Come on, wake up.

Just to make sure you understand the reality, not just the dream you want.

Electric cars are worse for the environment than regular cars, as their batteries are horrible for the environment, the rare earths for the elctronics come from strip mining, and they still get tue power to run them from burning fossil fuels, this is not a win for the environment in any way. I requires the same amount of fossil fuels to power them as refular cars, and are sorse for the environment, sounds like they are not an improvement at all to me, than add in the over double the cost of a refular car......lol wake up your dreaming.

Solar power is a joke at best, they cost over 2 times as much per kilowatt hour as a coal plant, and by the time they even pay for themselves they are already over twice their operating life, as most wont make it that long, they will never even pay for themselves in power.

Both your examples are examples of how to waste taxpayers money, turning energy into energy at twice the cost of not doing it to start, with no net benifit, it is a net loss on power and resource investment.

reply to post by cody599


Climate change exists but it doesn't give some people an excuse to benefit off you cuz of it.

Are we still in the era where knowledge is used to manipulate the masses??

Is this how those people who knew when an ecplise was going to happen felt. If you do not do what we say and such and such a date we will block out the sun.

guess we have idiots in any era./

I don't even care about global warming, yet our abundant use of unclean and unsustainable energy sources is disgusting to me. It's inevitable they're harmful to the environment, such as oil spills and habitat fragmentation due to mining. This is what we should be focusing on. The slight heating the planet honestly looks pretty trivial.
Also, the rise in CO2 DOES have anthropogenic causes. The planet does not easily release tons of CO2 by itself. In order to release a large amount of CO2 into the atmosphere, sources containing it must be altered/destroyed to where they do not contain CO2 anymore. For example, deforestation leads to an increase of CO2. The depleted biosphere then causes an increase in CO2 in the atmosphere. Fossil fuels, which are most often deemed to be the culprit of CO2 inputs into the atmosphere, when combusted, obviously increase CO2. The major natural process of Earth that increases CO2 is volcano eruptions, and those do not happen very much.
I recommend all of you research this stuff or take an environmental/earth science class before you speak.

You are not a scientist and its clear. I am. You are emotional

Originally posted by LastStarfighter
You are not a scientist and its clear. I am. You are emotional

I think you're confusing the word "scientist" with "scientologist"..

If you have a glass of water with ice in it, and the ice melts, does the level of the water rise?

No.

Then why would the oceans rise if glaciers melt? Most are floating in the antarctic ocean.

So how is this any different?

Originally posted by phantomjack
If you have a glass of water with ice in it, and the ice melts, does the level of the water rise?

No.

Then why would the oceans rise if glaciers melt? Most are floating in the antarctic ocean.

So how is this any different?

If you have a glass of water and then drop an ice cube into it, and it melts, does the water rise then?

Whilst melting sea ice will not contribute directly to sea level rise*, most ice is on land and that most certainly does cause sea levels to rise (imagine a glass of water and adding a small ice cube to it every day. Day after day after day after day .....)


* with less sea ice there is greater absorbtion of solar radiation so, indirectly, less sea ice = warmer oceans. And water expands as it warms, so sea levels rise,

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
reply to post by Rezlooper

 

You note something though....and I agree. Cause is only the trivia pursuit part of this. If it started in the 1700's then cause is beyond us....and solution likely is too. By your research, what do you think the world does in adapting and learning to live with significantly higher levels of natural methane in the open air?

I see the C02 charts with PPM going up a couple hundred over hundreds of years and stifle a laugh to be polite to people showing them....but yours is a bit more than a statistical bump, if accurate. That's showing that SOMETHING has seriously shifted in the natural environment and starting around the time our nation was founded for general reference??

Ocean changes..as you've suggested in other threads..scare the crap out of me. The oceans really *DO* control and define the climates and patterns around the entire planet. If they are changing.....we're in for a ride no one can accurately predict, is my sense.

The biggest mysteries of this is why did the methane release level off for nearly a decade from the late 1990's until 2007, and then why did it suddenly begin rapidly increasing again and it did worldwide, as shown in the graph below.

this imbalance has resulted in several million metric tons of additional methane in the atmosphere. Methane is produced by wetlands, rice paddies, cattle, and the gas and coal industries, and is destroyed by reaction with the hydroxyl free radical (OH), often referred to as the atmosphere's "cleanser."

One surprising feature of this recent growth is that it occurred almost simultaneously at all measurement locations across the globe. However, the majority of methane emissions are in the Northern Hemisphere, and it takes more than one year for gases to be mixed from the Northern Hemisphere to the Southern Hemisphere. Hence, theoretical analysis of the measurements shows that if an increase in emissions is solely responsible, these emissions must have risen by a similar amount in both hemispheres at the same time. A rise in Northern Hemispheric emissions may be due to the very warm conditions that were observed over Siberia throughout 2007, potentially leading to increased bacterial emissions from wetland areas. However, a potential cause for an increase in Southern Hemispheric emissions is less clear.

Methane levels begin to rise again

reply to post by Rezlooper

You know for me it's not so much the C02, it's the C04. Methane gas is far more dangerous than carbon dioxide emissions.

Something you miss in your posting is the effect of a small temperature increase on the Russian Tundra. Once that starts melting, all that vegetative matter will start 'going off'. Bacterial action will release enormous amounts of methane.

That is one of the so called 'tipping points' and we are virtually guaranteed to hit it.

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by cody599

So what do you guys think ?

I think that global warming is a scam designed to remove cash from our pockets and put it into the pockets of Western governments and their business cronies.

It's a scam. A very expensive scam.

I couldn't agree with you more.