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what does it mean for the Catholic Church
but, what does it mean for the Catholic Church to send this message?
Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by supertrot
but, what does it mean for the Catholic Church to send this message?
A few rotten apples truly doesn't spoil the bunch?
Originally posted by pheonix358
Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by supertrot
but, what does it mean for the Catholic Church to send this message?
A few rotten apples truly doesn't spoil the bunch?
A minority carries out the crimes against children
A further minority covers up those crimes.
The majority remain silent in respect of these crimes.
All are guilty!
P
The period covered by the John Jay study began in 1950 and ended in 2002. The number of alleged abuses increased in the 1960s, peaked in the 1970s, declined in the 1980s and by the 1990s had returned to the levels of the 1950s.
Of the 11,000 allegations reported by bishops in the John Jay study, 3,300 were not investigated because the allegations were made after the accused priest had died. 6,700 allegations were substantiated, leaving 1,000 that could not be substantiated.
41% of the priests were the subject of more than one allegation. Just under 3% of the priests were the subject of ten or more allegations. The 149 priests who had more than 10 allegations against them accounted for 2,960 of the total number of allegations. (Roughly 27%)
The Church was widely criticized when it was discovered that some bishops knew about some of the alleged crimes committed, but reassigned the accused instead of seeking to have them permanently removed from the priesthood. In defense of this practice, some have pointed out that public school administrators engaged in a similar manner when dealing with accused teachers, as did the Boy Scouts of America.
In response to these allegations, defenders of the Church's actions have suggested that in re-assigning priests after treatment, bishops were acting on the best medical advice then available, a policy also followed by the U.S. public school system when dealing with accused teachers.
Some bishops and psychiatrists have asserted that the prevailing psychology of the times suggested that people could be cured of such behavior through counseling. Many of the abusive priests had received counseling before being reassigned. . . . The priests were allowed to resume their previous duties with children only when the bishop was advised by the treating psychologists or psychiatrists that it was safe for them to resume their duties. (Parenthetical material added.)
Originally posted by stirling
Hmmmmmm
Lets see,
The church is heavily invested in the largest gay appartment complex in Rome, that has a gay sauna.......
In fact several preists reside there......
They have willfully covered up blasphemy after blasphemy vis a vis the choir/alterboys......
I would have to say it apears they endorse a range of perverse behaviors.....
Originally posted by Goetic
reply to post by supertrot
A priest sodomizing a Choir boy is not homosexuality.
It is called pedophilia.
When having sex with young boys, the priests are not endorsing homosexuality.
They are endorsing pedophilia.
The sex of the abused child is irrelevant to the priest's sexual orientation.
An heterosexual pedophile is as likely to rape a boy than a girl.
Also, it is the individual committing the crime that is endorsing such behavior.
Not the organization in which he takes place.
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Originally posted by Goetic
reply to post by supertrot
A priest sodomizing a Choir boy is not homosexuality.
It is called pedophilia.
When having sex with young boys, the priests are not endorsing homosexuality.
They are endorsing pedophilia.
The sex of the abused child is irrelevant to the priest's sexual orientation.
An heterosexual pedophile is as likely to rape a boy than a girl.
Also, it is the individual committing the crime that is endorsing such behavior.
Not the organization in which he takes place.
edit on 16-3-2013 by Goetic because: (no reason given)edit on 16-3-2013 by Goetic because: (no reason given)edit on 16-3-2013 by Goetic because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by supertrot
reply to post by Goetic
if it has nothing to do with homosexuality, then why don't you have dozens of young girls coming forward claiming to have been vaginally raped. Clergymen like little boys; there is no question of this. The question is not even why. The question is WHY IS THE CHURCH TOLERATING THIS BEHAVIOR?