Music: WHITE RABBIT

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Hi there, I felt it would be appropriate to create a post here on ATS where music
could be re-discovered as an interesting topic or issue in relation to politics in current
u.s.a.. as it stands.. my idea is sort of Jerfferson Airplaane and their music and I would
like to see other members of ats bring in some links so that we can all explore music
in relation to politics in these forums; I hope it will be interesting, fun and informational..
Thanks, and if the moderators wish to place the thread elsewhere, please do so;

Here is the link https: white rabbit: //www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl89g2SwMh4

Put it here for you.

Loved this since I was a kid but darn it I shoulda lived through thw 60's.

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I know what it is about, the problem being, is that the mods won't allow it. Comments will be removed , and warnings will be given if we go there.

So since you asked for other topics. Do you mind if we go here instead?



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I think they were in deep with the Illuminati in the 80's when they released the very esoteric and symbolic "We built this city (on Rock and Roll)". Of course they had morphed into the band Starship by that time, which indicates some extra-terrestrial connections. Who are the "we" they are referring to? We built this city indeed.

Musicians still do this. I've always considered musicians and the music that they write to act, at times of trouble, as the artistic component of political dialogue. Here's just a few from the last year or so that hit on very highly politicized messages:

Serj Tankian "Harakiri" (entire album actually could have been used): www.youtube.com...

Flobots "The Circle In the Square": youtu.be...

Rise Against "Ballad of Hollis Brown":youtu.be...

Shineback "When We Stand Together": youtu.be...

Billy Talent "Surprise Surprise": youtu.be...

James McMurtry, Joan Baez, and Steve Earle "We Can't Make It Here Anymore": youtu.be...

Tobey Keith "Made in America": youtu.be...

Korn "Illuminati": youtu.be...

Possibles (up to debate):

Shinedown "Enemies": youtu.be...

Linkin Park "Until It Breaks": youtu.be...

If you go back a little further, you'll find more. Heck, even Miley Cyrus did one: youtu.be...

Here's a wikipedia page entitled "List of anti-war songs"

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That's pretty political, no matter what era you either came from or have an interest in.

Then here is the King, the Sultan of Song, the political singer of his generation, the great and late Phil Ochs:

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I always loved this one as well as White Rabbit and totally loved the video which has been copied over and over by other people as it was such a novel idea. Sorry I could not find an upload of just this vid and it goes on with other Dylan footage after the song.
Maybe not all anti-war or making a big political statement but the younger peeps of today have missed out on some great sounds and thought others might like something a bit different.



Another favourite yet not very well known



Though termed a kids tv show they actually had some great songs





And one of the best sounds ever, The Sonics

For poltical songs talking about their times, well, "The Times They Are A'Changing" can't be beat. Here is the finest cover of Dylan's song I've ever heard or seen, and I used it on a "satirical" but factual article on the Gulf Oil Spill in 2011 called "Well-Oiled Birds" - finding it perfect for that internet page. Am glad to share it with those of you who haven't seen it yet.

White Rabbit was originally written by Gracie (ohh, Gracie) when she was with the Great Society before she joined the J-Plane, replacing Signe Anderson.

Slick has continued to maintain that White Rabbit is about reading books ("feed your head").

There is probably no music more politically motivated than Reggae. The golden age of Reggae from 1970 to the early 80's was heavily influenced by the islands politics. The Jamaican born Michael Manley was leading a Democratic Socialist party. The leader of the opposition edward seaga the U.S. born capitalist led the right wing. Naturally the U.S. was on seaga's side and when Manley took power the U.S. which was already worried about Cuba, did everything they could to stop Socialist progress in Jamaica. Mainly by importing thousands and thousands of guns into the country to prevent stability just like they did in Venezuela.

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Here's a couple songs

The first one is Bob Marley's "Ambush in the Night" off his Survival album which is one of his best albums, and probably one of the most political albums ever.

They say what we know
Is just what they teach us
And [that] we're so ignorant
Cause every time they can reach us
Through political strategy
They keep us hungry
And when you gonna get some food
Your brother got to be your enemy



The second is song by the Wailing Souls called Kingdom Rise & Kingdom Fall. This is the 12" single version with a heavy dub part.

Economics has got them in desperation (This a modern famine)
And poverty is causing dangerous political tension
Depression is down on the land
And Inflation is holding out strong

False rulers we know them
Speaking about human rights
Yet they deal with pure dishonesty
And the people they still can't walk the street as they like

More current because, well, OP said "current USA". This handful would be 2010-2011:

Lupe Fiasco "Words I Never Said": youtu.be...

Radiohead "The Daily Mail": youtu.be...

Immortal Technique "Rich Man's 1%"

Linkin Park "Wretches and Kings": youtu.be...

M.I.A. "Born Free" (major content warning for original vid): youtu.be...

Black Eyed Peas "Where Is the Love?": youtu.be...

Third Eye Blind "If There Ever Was a Time": youtu.be...

Elvis Costello "National Ransom": youtu.be...

Originally posted by WhiteAlice
More current because, well, OP said "current USA". This handful would be 2010-2011:

Lupe Fiasco "Words I Never Said": youtu.be...

Radiohead "The Daily Mail": youtu.be...

Immortal Technique "Rich Man's 1%"

Linkin Park "Wretches and Kings": youtu.be...

M.I.A. "Born Free" (major content warning for original vid): youtu.be...

Black Eyed Peas "Where Is the Love?": youtu.be...

Third Eye Blind "If There Ever Was a Time": youtu.be...

Elvis Costello "National Ransom": youtu.be...

To be honest with you, I think I prefer more of the older music, but the modern stuff is great too;
I wonder how to upload the videos themselves from youtube.. haven't learned how to do that on the internet quite yet..

Originally posted by boymonkey74

Put it here for you.

Loved this since I was a kid

but darn it I shoulda lived through thw 60's.

edit on 16-3-2013 by boymonkey74 because: (no reason given)

I know what you mean;.. how do you upload the videos that way? I wouldn't mind learning some of these little tricks;

Seems appropriate lately:

We can't forget these classic political songs:

Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young - Ohio


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Buffalo Springfield - For What it's Worth

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As for the topic at hand, if you want some good tuneage akin to Jeff Airplane and WR, checkout the forerunner group, The Great Society. Grace Slick was the main vocalist and the group does a more eastern-influenced version of WR, as well as a great version of Somebody to Love. Also I like the pre-Grace-Slick Jefferson Airplane's first album, J.A. Takes Off. I'm not so interested in the particulars of one song as much as the genre and groups that produced albums in the same vibe.

Along these same lines of quintessential 60's psychedelia, check out Arthur Lee and Love, particularly their album "Forever Changes"; it's best described as the would-be sound track to the best 60's psychedelic movie never made. Also check out David Laflamme's group It's a Beautiful Day and their eponymous (self-titled) album (all the other albums are pretty much dreck, but this one is tres groovy). For serious aficionados of this genre, I also recommend the bands Ultimate Spinach and H P Lovecraft, in particular their first album in each case. Not of this genre, but with a seminal 60's sound all of its own are the first four Velvet Underground albums and their Live '69 double album; this was where Lou Reed earned his chops. Good stuff, good stuff.

A great compilation of more obscure 60's garage-band groups are the Nuggets collection(s). There was originally a 2-LP compilation set. This has since been expanded to a 4-CD set, which includes all the tunes from the original, but is suffused with a lot of less compelling material too. Here's the cover of the original album.



All of this stuff can be found via a youtube search or from other fine online resources that shall remain un-named (just start googling around for a bit and they should become manifestly evident -- at least it worked out that way for me. YARRR, matey!)...

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Here's another great song, and if I could upload the video, I would but no one has mentioned yet how to upload videos; In any case, this link is for Credence Clearwater Rivival, and the name of the song is PROUD MARY

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Still trying to figure out how to upload the videos..

Originally posted by tony9802
To be honest with you, I think I prefer more of the older music, but the modern stuff is great too;
I wonder how to upload the videos themselves from youtube.. haven't learned how to do that on the internet quite yet..

I'm mixed on which I prefer better but to dismiss the music with political overtones in the present day out of preference is a disservice to the topic of the thread. If we only focus on the past and not look at what is being put out today, then we are essentially ignoring the "writing on the wall".