Re: Should You Trust a Doctor???

So anyways, here I am doing some online rants and raves reading and low and behold this thread post comes up titled as above^

Here is the quote for your reading pleasure:
vancouver.en.craigslist.ca...

You shouln't trust any doctor period. They don't have your best interest at heart. They are business people NOTHING more. They only chose that profession because it is a very lucrative job. Its all about $$$$$$$$$ you need a referral to go see a specialist who's going to charge 250$ only to say hi to you .

He will then make your case even worst prescribing you harmful useless drugs. He will suggest as many tests ($$$$) as possible and when he's done with what is be left of you he'll /she'll send you to a collegue, usually a friend in need of knew patients.

Stay away from these people . I used to work in doctors office, I know them and the "system " too well, my sister in law is a doctor she the most uncaring person you could meet .They are the most dangerous cold heart people . They have no respect for human life They are responsible for so many deaths and complications due to wrong medication and error in diagnosis .

Dentist are no better , actually worse , because it is easier for them lie

I believe in what this guy is saying. We have all heard about conspiracies with big pharma and how doctors are in the practice of making business...not "curing" health problems.

What are your thoughts with this guy's argument?

Well,I for one do not trust them in the common ,day to day normal things that happens to people.
You get the flu,get strep throat,ear infection,what ever.
You get better in a few days with or without antibiotics.
Antibiotics are the most over used medication there is.
And what happens?
Read the headlines about superbugs resistant to antibiotics.

And those drug reps that the pharms send in to peddle they're products?
They are hot and sexy.I would push what ever they wanted me to .

I am sure there are "incentives" for pushing they're products.

This is a good reason why free health can work out best for everyone!

If doctors arnt pushing drugs that the US gov cant afford, everything will be reduced since the docs and the meds are all tax funded - cutting back on the cheats, rule benders and greedy docs/company's.

I live in the UK and we trust our doctors, we have to pay for the meds we need (at a flat rate for all meds per prescription) if we are working, if we are seeking a job on the dole we get free meds.

Ive known my doc for 25 years, i trust him completely and trust that any drugs/meds/care i need, i get as i need - he gets paid the same.

I wont get into the health insurance side, thats for another thread i think

reply to post by Skywatcher2011


Unfortunately I agree to some extent...

I've found in the medical industry, especially health care... There are many doctors and nurses that are in their profession just for the money...

Though I wouldn't go so far as to say they're all bad... I've met many doctors that are very caring people and will not prescribe meds unless its absolutely necessary.

In all honesty... health care is in an overwhelmingly disgusting state in the world...

reply to post by Biigs


The post was from a person who lives and works in BC, Canada....this is from a Canadian perspective and I am sure in the US it is the same.

reply to post by Skywatcher2011


That makes two from a Canadian perspective actually...

I live in Ontario and work in health care...

Originally posted by Akragon
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That makes two from a Canadian perspective actually...

I live in Ontario and work in health care...

I'm from BC....hello to you from the west coast!

Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by Skywatcher2011

 

That makes two from a Canadian perspective actually...

I live in Ontario and work in health care...

Oh sorry, i see dollars anywhere i think USA, sorry about that little snaffu

Post still holds tho, docs diagnosis and their drugs have nothing to do with their pay check in the UK.

Originally posted by Biigs
Oh sorry, i see dollars anywhere i think USA, sorry about that little snaffu

the link shows....vancouver.en...ca

can you tell it's Canadian version of the dollar?

Originally posted by Biigs

Originally posted by Akragon
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That makes two from a Canadian perspective actually...

I live in Ontario and work in health care...

Oh sorry, i see dollars anywhere i think USA, sorry about that little snaffu

Post still holds tho, docs diagnosis and their drugs have nothing to do with their pay check in the UK.

edit on 13-3-2013 by Biigs because: (no reason given)

No problem my friend...

And I do agree... especially with your little statement about "insurance"...

Insurance is the biggest crime on the general populous in the past 100 years...

Thieves masquerading as frickin Robin Hood...

Originally posted by Skywatcher2011

Originally posted by Akragon
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That makes two from a Canadian perspective actually...

I live in Ontario and work in health care...

I'm from BC....hello to you from the west coast!

I lived there for a bit... lovely place...

And I shall return as soon as I get my nursing...

take care

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If you have any types of insurance, both doctors and dentists will just maximize the amount they can harvest from your insurance policy. It is a crime to say the least.

Because I have a chronic disease (rheumatoid arthritis / fibromyalgia), I've been to many doctors and "specialists".

I would say that 95% of them were totally worthless, rather ignorant, and schedule so many patients that they cannot possible figure out what's wrong with you, or what the proper treatment should be. They just parrot what the drug reps tell them, and are basically walking prescription pads.

The other 5%....God bless 'em, they at least had a heart and tried to have some sympathy for my situation.

I look at it this way: If I feel I need a prescription, I go to my local clinic, as I cannot get it any other way (at least, not legally). If I were to get into a wreck, or have a stroke or heart attack, the ER is a handy place to be.

For my chronic problems, I deal with them with vitamins, herbs, etc. I have given up on doctors a long time ago. Their God Complex is completely undeserved. If I want a diagnosis, I go to the internet....which has proven to be better than a live doctor. They're becoming obsolete for all but the most severe of cases.

You shouln't trust any doctor period. They don't have your best interest at heart. They are business people NOTHING more. They only chose that profession because it is a very lucrative job. Its all about $$$$$$$$$ you need a referral to go see a specialist who's going to charge 250$ only to say hi to you .

That makes it sound like we have to pay to see a specialist even when referred

I've lived in 3 different provinces, and neither me nor my husband has ever had to pay. We only have the regular health care too, no extra blue cross, or employer added.

As for the rest of it, I've had good doctors that have recommended natural remedies over prescriptions, and I've had doctors that have given away samples from his office, if it's something I've only needed short term.

My husband, on the other hand, was over prescribed for blood pressure and cholesterol that wasn't that bad. He took the prescription from the doctor, and never filled it. He fixed the problems with diet and exercise.

It all depends on the doctor.

Arugh, okay i dont want to derail your thread about thieving doctors - just checking everything on the list "because you cant be too careful" while getting a nice back hander.... To heck with your actual health or trust in the system.

however...

Health Insurance costs A LOT, a tax for everyone that covers everything would probably be better than standard insurance - and the 1%ers would get private 'luxury' insurance anyway. Eventually doing away with the doc issue, while also putting people who need to be cared for without insurance, back to work. And work = tax, Tax payers mean more health care

Originally posted by Skywatcher2011
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If you have any types of insurance, both doctors and dentists will just maximize the amount they can harvest from your insurance policy. It is a crime to say the least.

Dentists, I've had problems with. I've only found one honest one, that was in Saskatchewan. In BC, every dentist I had robbed me blind. It's like you don't go for years, they only find a couple of holes in the X-rays, but once he fixes those teeth, they'll find a dozen more cavities that weren't there before

Should I trust a doctor? Hmmm....

I do not know if I trust anyone in the health care industry enough to subscribe completely to their methods because of the motives behind their methods. Currently, I am aware that doctors accept perks from big pharma all the time for 'pushing' the meds reps bring in. I also am aware of how doctors are controlled by insurance companies to dole out a specific number of vaccines and other forms of treatment and to refer patients elsewhere for specialist visits. Furthermore, I am aware of the AMA having a strangle hold on doctors for not practicing medicine according to the 'standards' set forth by them.

ATS is full of topics relating to the medical field where this substance or another substance is known to be harmful but gets prescribed or pushed upon the populace simply because it is expected of docs to do so.

I do believe doctors are in the business for the money, but some are also in the business to help people. The ratio is by no means balanced, and IMO people are more likely to find a true doctor in smaller communities than in large urban environments. I try never to go see a doctor unless whatever ails me refuses to go away in ten to fifteen days. I can count the times I have been prescribed antibiotics on one hand and have never completed the entire course. (foolish, maybe, but I used them to give my body a little push)

Just my two cents.

I'd listen to his diagnosis, but to agree to their prescriptions I'd most likely not. Sometimes they want to cut a piece of your body out and the obvious treatment is a change in diet. an example of that is the gallbladder with gall stones. Or if you have a simple cold, again the proper diet, and some time of course. Really, no need for pills. I personally believe a good diet and staying active can prevent a lot of people's problems.

However, if I broke a bone like in a complete compound fracture, I'd let them treat me.

Oh dear this thread puts me slightly on edge . But yes you could trust this one!.......But seriously theres good ones then theres not so good ones. But i suppose that goes for every job. Seek out the good ones!

The thing about medicine, is that it professes to be a science, when really, it's an art form. If it were a science, then the same treatment would work for people with the same parameters.

That isn't the case. Therefore, it's up to the artist to try and "guess" (based on his knowledge) the right treatment.

There's a reason they call it a "practice"......

I don't trust anyone who turns a profit from perceiving that I have an illness.

I'm glad everyone else is catching up. Dern lollygaggers.