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New Pope is elected
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Originally posted by EllaMarina
He's Peter, and that's the end of it. Beware of the elderly Antichrist!
Just kidding. I'm glad it's just a normal succession after all.
Berg means mountain or rock.
Interesting. The RCC is trying to become relevant with current events. I'm sure they know as does everyone else that can see the economic rumblings,
that we will soon have a cataclysmic economic crash. Currencies are being debased, debt is being monetized, the federal reserve and its circle jerk of
central banksters are pushing money into their partner big banks so that they can go out and buy assets in order to survive the coming economic
apocalypse.
So what does that have to do with the new Pope. Well look who they elected. A Jesuit from Latin America who is known for his work with and advocacy for the poor. And in the next few years there are going to be a whole lot more poor people. If the RCC steps forward to help feed and shelter these people during the impending economic collapse, you can be sure that the RCC will win many many converts. But this also puts them on a path of conflict with the NWO who want to depopulate the earth. you know, the supporters of the one nation, one currency, one religion, one language, one billion people.
Like I said very interesting. Maybe reformation of the Curia will lead to the RCC to put up resistance to the way things are currently being down, namely robbing Peter to pay Paul. Maybe Francis will challenge the money changers as did Jesus.
and BTW, the head of the Jesuit order is often derisively referred to as the black pope by the media. Just saying, the mainstream media is the propaganda arm of the NWO. So if the new pope starts to speak out against the elite then I would look for NWO media to start to use that same derisive title on Francis I.
So what does that have to do with the new Pope. Well look who they elected. A Jesuit from Latin America who is known for his work with and advocacy for the poor. And in the next few years there are going to be a whole lot more poor people. If the RCC steps forward to help feed and shelter these people during the impending economic collapse, you can be sure that the RCC will win many many converts. But this also puts them on a path of conflict with the NWO who want to depopulate the earth. you know, the supporters of the one nation, one currency, one religion, one language, one billion people.
Like I said very interesting. Maybe reformation of the Curia will lead to the RCC to put up resistance to the way things are currently being down, namely robbing Peter to pay Paul. Maybe Francis will challenge the money changers as did Jesus.
and BTW, the head of the Jesuit order is often derisively referred to as the black pope by the media. Just saying, the mainstream media is the propaganda arm of the NWO. So if the new pope starts to speak out against the elite then I would look for NWO media to start to use that same derisive title on Francis I.
The one thing (actually I have two) I cannot understand is why if the first leader of the church was between 25-35, why do they insist in electing
people near death?
The second one relates to biblical succession. A leader should be able to anoint a new leader as a leader. But the Catholic tradition is a democratic one where people of less standing than a Pope elect one of themselves to be pope after days of debate and argument. Christianity has absolutely nothing to do with democracy. While I like a lot of things about the Catholic church and it format, this discounts everything if the election of a leader is totally unbiblical.
The Pope should decide who is the next Pope.
The second one relates to biblical succession. A leader should be able to anoint a new leader as a leader. But the Catholic tradition is a democratic one where people of less standing than a Pope elect one of themselves to be pope after days of debate and argument. Christianity has absolutely nothing to do with democracy. While I like a lot of things about the Catholic church and it format, this discounts everything if the election of a leader is totally unbiblical.
The Pope should decide who is the next Pope.
Originally posted by HomoSapiensSapiens
reply to post by ausername
God is anthropomorphic as in, he is a fabrication of human minds.
WOW, A MERE HUMAN KNOWING EVERYTHING THAT CAN POSSIBLY EXIST INSIDE OUR OWN DIMENSION AND OUTSIDE OF IT AS WELL.
THAT MAKES YOU GOD, SIR!
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Originally posted by HomoSapiensSapiens
reply to post by ausername
God is anthropomorphic as in, he is a fabrication of human minds.
Human minds call him by many names, and apply a human like image to him, they created the many religions and faiths, texts and "prophecies" ... That God and the others are indeed fabrications of the human mind, perhaps driven by evil. The catholic church is guilty itself of crimes against humanity over the centuries, and in more recent times the abuse of children, it is amazing when you look at all religions and faiths and see the EVIL that has been done in the name of God, Allah, or whatever name your particular faith calls him/her/it/them.
But hey, what does any of this have to do with the election of an almighty pope?
You make some interesting points, perhaps for another discussion another place and time.
Good luck with your awakenings.
This has nothing to do with either Josef Ratzinger/Pope Benedict or the new Pope. However, I see a historical similarity here. History shows that in
'30s Germany we got Hitler who ended his life in May of '45. Then it is believed that many Nazi's fled to Argentina after WWII and possibly
Brazil. Well, we started with a German Pope who suddenly resigned only to have a Pope elected from Argentina. Just find that very interesting and
too much of a coincidence to ignore.
Originally posted by woogleuk
The translator on the BBC just translated something he said as the end of the world
ATS is about to go nuts.....anyone else catch that?
Yes, I caught that immediately, and nobody else has mentioned it on this thread. It was the first line of Francis' speech! Does anyone have a vid or a translation? Thanks.
reply to post by PhoenixOD
It is true as in the seventh century the pope was a woman called Joan whom may have been british, some claim she hid her gender but Christ said there is no difference between a man and a woman in the resurrection, I am the resurrection the way and the life.
There is a street in rome were stand's a statue of a madonna and child, not unusual until you know why it was erected, the pope was giving mass on the very street when she went into labour the crowd were so enraged that they tour her and her unborn baby apart when they realised it was a woman and trampled the pieces into the dust as they being semi pagan thought the a woman priest must be a virgin (it was only in the 11th century that the roman church banned marriage amongst priest's - obviousely the borga fogot this) another male pope had her bust removed century's later and replaced with a male bust he named John whom never existed, he also had all record's of this now sainted martyr removed from the church and the statue with it's story simple became another maddonna and child.
Anyway let us hope that this man is good and that he serve's God not the Vatican banker's I hold great hope for Francis.
It is true as in the seventh century the pope was a woman called Joan whom may have been british, some claim she hid her gender but Christ said there is no difference between a man and a woman in the resurrection, I am the resurrection the way and the life.
There is a street in rome were stand's a statue of a madonna and child, not unusual until you know why it was erected, the pope was giving mass on the very street when she went into labour the crowd were so enraged that they tour her and her unborn baby apart when they realised it was a woman and trampled the pieces into the dust as they being semi pagan thought the a woman priest must be a virgin (it was only in the 11th century that the roman church banned marriage amongst priest's - obviousely the borga fogot this) another male pope had her bust removed century's later and replaced with a male bust he named John whom never existed, he also had all record's of this now sainted martyr removed from the church and the statue with it's story simple became another maddonna and child.
Anyway let us hope that this man is good and that he serve's God not the Vatican banker's I hold great hope for Francis.
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Last commenter Nailed it, this is the Reich being formed fit in front of our very eyes. Knew it minute I heard it, look at a couple of things,
One Operation Paperclip, the USA backed School of Americas, the Nazi tortures of poor in Argentina, aka Mothers of the Dissappeared ring a bell anyone or have That all been forgotten along with the mass graves and they Still havent found them all, etc and you can research the links between Nazis and Argentina because there are tons out there, along it's the massive Human Right abuses by yes Jesuits, Witch hunts and Inquisition anyone???
Now, another thing to consider, the son of that queen soon to be resigning if she hasn't already, her father apparently had Nazi ties, country Austria. her son is next up for the throne,
HE is married to an elite from nine other than...
Argentina.
Now what I glean from this is the Human Rights aspect of because that's where I learned a lot about the conspiracy of terror and juntas in South and Central America, tortures of children, etc., some horrific cases and even with Bibles in the room while they were torturing children, etc. This wasn't that long ago, 70s, 80s, etc. How soon we forget,
So, maybe it's not mystical evidence we should be looking for so much as the links and connections of an inner power structure notorious for torture, terror and totalitarianism. With the new King with Nazi AND argentinan links, uh, one would have to be a bit dense NOT to be alarmed, not when you consider totalitarianism is out for a global hegemony. I also don't think it's coincidence that one of the largest BDSM porn industries is run by former Jesuit, tie that in with the inquisition and misogyny that is Sick and I do mean sick, that is mega money and the pedophilia garbage from that, the historical genocides by yes Jesuits in Canada against Native Indians, there's just a lot there that begs to be considered, and let's not forget, Mussolini, Franco, just because it's Catholic and has a friendly face in no way means its not despotism. I'd be hesitant to celebrate or take comfort, far from it...Evil doesn't come with a monster face, it comes with the charm of an angel.
One Operation Paperclip, the USA backed School of Americas, the Nazi tortures of poor in Argentina, aka Mothers of the Dissappeared ring a bell anyone or have That all been forgotten along with the mass graves and they Still havent found them all, etc and you can research the links between Nazis and Argentina because there are tons out there, along it's the massive Human Right abuses by yes Jesuits, Witch hunts and Inquisition anyone???
Now, another thing to consider, the son of that queen soon to be resigning if she hasn't already, her father apparently had Nazi ties, country Austria. her son is next up for the throne,
HE is married to an elite from nine other than...
Argentina.
Now what I glean from this is the Human Rights aspect of because that's where I learned a lot about the conspiracy of terror and juntas in South and Central America, tortures of children, etc., some horrific cases and even with Bibles in the room while they were torturing children, etc. This wasn't that long ago, 70s, 80s, etc. How soon we forget,
So, maybe it's not mystical evidence we should be looking for so much as the links and connections of an inner power structure notorious for torture, terror and totalitarianism. With the new King with Nazi AND argentinan links, uh, one would have to be a bit dense NOT to be alarmed, not when you consider totalitarianism is out for a global hegemony. I also don't think it's coincidence that one of the largest BDSM porn industries is run by former Jesuit, tie that in with the inquisition and misogyny that is Sick and I do mean sick, that is mega money and the pedophilia garbage from that, the historical genocides by yes Jesuits in Canada against Native Indians, there's just a lot there that begs to be considered, and let's not forget, Mussolini, Franco, just because it's Catholic and has a friendly face in no way means its not despotism. I'd be hesitant to celebrate or take comfort, far from it...Evil doesn't come with a monster face, it comes with the charm of an angel.
reply to post by ThreeBears
Another odd thing, that comes to mind is the Obelisk, in Argentina, one in Egypt and one in DC. there are several others as well, including in Rome, but there is occult connections with those things, not sure what just know there is. I just think there is more coincidental than what many might see, and that it's all coming to a close, it's not Good, that I do know. Also one on earlier page did find one suit, regarding human right abuses with this pope, so uh, doesn't look like I'm too far off. Just saying...
Another odd thing, that comes to mind is the Obelisk, in Argentina, one in Egypt and one in DC. there are several others as well, including in Rome, but there is occult connections with those things, not sure what just know there is. I just think there is more coincidental than what many might see, and that it's all coming to a close, it's not Good, that I do know. Also one on earlier page did find one suit, regarding human right abuses with this pope, so uh, doesn't look like I'm too far off. Just saying...
Originally posted by Aleister
Originally posted by woogleuk
The translator on the BBC just translated something he said as the end of the world
ATS is about to go nuts.....anyone else catch that?
Yes, I caught that immediately, and nobody else has mentioned it on this thread. It was the first line of Francis' speech! Does anyone have a vid or a translation? Thanks.
www.thedailybeast.com...
Nothing about the end of the world.
He would like all of you to pray for him tho.
Good luck.
The church is lucky he isn't well known outside of Argentina...
As I posted in other thread:
I know he looks like a nice old guy, and sure, he's a guy and he's old, but there's nothing "nice" about him.....
It is important to note that even though he's always been in line with the more conservative sectors of the catholic church, the fact they chose an American pope is indeed interesting. Even more choosing someone from the south....
As I posted in other thread:
Real facts from an Argentinian:
He's a fascist right-wing SOB who openly supported the military dictatorship.
He openly opposed the public distribution of anticonceptives. (no surprise there)
He openly opposed the Igualitarian Marriage Law (no surprise there)
He's the poster-boy of the elites
He persecuted those who embraced the theology of liberation
I could go on and on and on...
The election of this clown is a shame for any true christian...
I know he looks like a nice old guy, and sure, he's a guy and he's old, but there's nothing "nice" about him.....
It is important to note that even though he's always been in line with the more conservative sectors of the catholic church, the fact they chose an American pope is indeed interesting. Even more choosing someone from the south....
reply to post by ThreeBears
If this is true then the end of the church in Rome is nigh as prophesied in the last secret of Fatima, but is it true and can not Christ turn water into wine, I am not a papist but believe that if the catholic church fragment's or fall's it will be the catalyst for the third western world war with a new rising militant Islam, Pakistan is joining force's with Iran, the so called Arab spring has brought Religious extremist's to power in Egypt and is on the verge of repeating this in Syria, Libya is still undecided and that is why the French had once again intervened in sub-Saharan Africa, Britain has consigned it's army. air force and navy to the scrap heap except for a plan to replace them with conscript's (any general will tell you 1 professional soldier is worth 10 conscript's in a battle), Angela Merkel is not getting her own way anymore and the Greek's are all but in open revolt, the Russian's are quietly watching and biding there time while bolstering there own interests while the european union teeter's under the economic engineered crisis of goldman sach's doing. Hell man we are only the sheep what do you expect from multi generational control freak maggot's they will destroy the world to make it in there own image and kill to ensure it turn's into there kind of slave economy paradise, remember the crusader oath we have to fight the devil in life and if possible in death and are sworn to that by yahwey and Christ (though Christ said "do not take any oath for you can not by will alone change the least hair of your head and how much less the throne of God").
If this is true then the end of the church in Rome is nigh as prophesied in the last secret of Fatima, but is it true and can not Christ turn water into wine, I am not a papist but believe that if the catholic church fragment's or fall's it will be the catalyst for the third western world war with a new rising militant Islam, Pakistan is joining force's with Iran, the so called Arab spring has brought Religious extremist's to power in Egypt and is on the verge of repeating this in Syria, Libya is still undecided and that is why the French had once again intervened in sub-Saharan Africa, Britain has consigned it's army. air force and navy to the scrap heap except for a plan to replace them with conscript's (any general will tell you 1 professional soldier is worth 10 conscript's in a battle), Angela Merkel is not getting her own way anymore and the Greek's are all but in open revolt, the Russian's are quietly watching and biding there time while bolstering there own interests while the european union teeter's under the economic engineered crisis of goldman sach's doing. Hell man we are only the sheep what do you expect from multi generational control freak maggot's they will destroy the world to make it in there own image and kill to ensure it turn's into there kind of slave economy paradise, remember the crusader oath we have to fight the devil in life and if possible in death and are sworn to that by yahwey and Christ (though Christ said "do not take any oath for you can not by will alone change the least hair of your head and how much less the throne of God").
must be hundreds of thousands of words in this thread and for what another retarded bull schit position filled in the big scam merrygoround we call,
life.
everyone rejoice, we have another dope in Rome, er um i mean pope.
everyone rejoice, we have another dope in Rome, er um i mean pope.
Hello,
first post for me
This translation is incorrect. You can find the original speech in italian here:
www.corriere.it...
"Fratelli e sorelle buonasera. Voi sapete che il dovere del Conclave è di dare un Vescovo a Roma. Sembra che i miei fratelli cardinali sono andati a prenderlo quasi alla fine del mondo."
and the correct translation is:
"Brother and sisters, Good evening.
As you know, the duty of the conclave is to appoint a bishop of Rome. It seems to me that my brother cardinals went to get it NEAR THE END OF THE WORLD".
Trust me, italian is my language
He probably mean that is the first Pope coming for far away, the extra european pope.
He's also the first Pope to choose Francesco as his new name.
He's the first Pope from the Company of Jesus (their leader is called "The Black Pope").
Somebody's saying that he was the runner up in 2005 when Ratzinger was elected... now we have two popes and i wonder if Bergoglio will take advices from Ratzinger or he'll reign alone.
That said, i think there's a lot of food for prophecies
first post for me
This translation is incorrect. You can find the original speech in italian here:
www.corriere.it...
"Fratelli e sorelle buonasera. Voi sapete che il dovere del Conclave è di dare un Vescovo a Roma. Sembra che i miei fratelli cardinali sono andati a prenderlo quasi alla fine del mondo."
and the correct translation is:
"Brother and sisters, Good evening.
As you know, the duty of the conclave is to appoint a bishop of Rome. It seems to me that my brother cardinals went to get it NEAR THE END OF THE WORLD".
Trust me, italian is my language
He probably mean that is the first Pope coming for far away, the extra european pope.
He's also the first Pope to choose Francesco as his new name.
He's the first Pope from the Company of Jesus (their leader is called "The Black Pope").
Somebody's saying that he was the runner up in 2005 when Ratzinger was elected... now we have two popes and i wonder if Bergoglio will take advices from Ratzinger or he'll reign alone.
That said, i think there's a lot of food for prophecies
Originally posted by ausername
Originally posted by Aleister
Originally posted by woogleuk
The translator on the BBC just translated something he said as the end of the world
ATS is about to go nuts.....anyone else catch that?
Yes, I caught that immediately, and nobody else has mentioned it on this thread. It was the first line of Francis' speech! Does anyone have a vid or a translation? Thanks.
www.thedailybeast.com...
Nothing about the end of the world.
He would like all of you to pray for him tho.
Good luck.
Originally posted by alby75
Hello,
first post for me
This translation is incorrect. You can find the original speech in italian here:
www.corriere.it...
"Fratelli e sorelle buonasera. Voi sapete che il dovere del Conclave è di dare un Vescovo a Roma. Sembra che i miei fratelli cardinali sono andati a prenderlo quasi alla fine del mondo."
and the correct translation is:
"Brother and sisters, Good evening.
As you know, the duty of the conclave is to appoint a bishop of Rome. It seems to me that my brother cardinals went to get it NEAR THE END OF THE WORLD".
Trust me, italian is my language
The translations keep changing, it is interesting.
By the way... Welcome to ATS
edit on 13-3-2013 by ausername because: (no reason given)
reply to post by alby75
Taking another look at it and from actual wording: Sembra che i miei fratelli cardinali sono andati a prenderlo quasi alla fine del mondo
What this man is actually saying is that his "brother cardinals" went to the end of the earth to find him. And here we are.
He wasn't actually saying we are near the end of the world.... Would have been interesting if he was.
Taking another look at it and from actual wording: Sembra che i miei fratelli cardinali sono andati a prenderlo quasi alla fine del mondo
What this man is actually saying is that his "brother cardinals" went to the end of the earth to find him. And here we are.
He wasn't actually saying we are near the end of the world.... Would have been interesting if he was.
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