The Only Way to End Evil is to End The World?

World War 1 & 2, The Nazi's threw Jewish babies up in the air and shot them; for the use of target practice life's were lost. Satanists sacrifice newborns to Satan every Halloween, the cry's can not be heard by good for they hide in secret. The Iraq war, the U.S.A. troops are ordered to kill children strapped with bombs instead of helping them. The Hiroshima bombing, those for and not for war died. The Enslavement of Africa. When I stare back at these horrendous vile events that humans have caused, I wonder why this evil is still persistent and ongoing. What if we all united and had many leaders?


This is why if I had the opportunity to be immortal I would pass because like the Great Buddha once said "Life is suffering." These atrocities are just suffering to even watch or hear, and these days a video of human killing banned in 50+Countries can be viewed on the internet. I do not want to live forever and keep watching this sadness around me, when I die at least I might have the possibility of not seeing or hearing these explicit events. But will evil ever come to an end? Every time I watch or hear the news, it is mostly bad news. The true question I am aiming at here is... Would you want to end the World so you can stop evil and it's gory nature but you would also destroy your existence, good, and neutrality or would you let evil roam the World while you live with it fighting against it?

The Universe is a duality. Everything with in it, every atom, must have an equal but opposite counterpart. This is true of Good vs Evil. In fact, I'm wrong there. It's not Good "vs" Evil but Good "and" Evil.

You see, in order to have a functioning universe, there must be both good and evil deeds. It's also important to remember that there is no such thing and right and wrong, only consequences that must be accepted or denied with great personal effects.

Think about it carefully: without WWII, where would we be technologically? Would the same events happen but at a later time in our history when it could have been even more devastating to our species? What about the telephone? Think about the ramifications if Mr. Bell had not made that first phone call into the next room? These things are all good and evil to different people.

I guess it all boils down to one's personal view of reality and how they choose to interpret events.

reply to post by Agent75


The tragic death of millions wasnt worth our advancement "technologically". dont see what your trying to get at with that one

reply to post by Vrillion


"Evil" is a human devised concept, so if you mean ending all life on Earth as we know it, then no, that is too extreme of an option.

Chimpanzees commit infanticide (an act that is considered morally reprehensible in western society), war, and murder, so are they intrinsically evil? Certain stars die and go supernova, causing a devastating cosmic explosion that would obliterate most planets orbiting the star - are stars "evil"?

"Evil," as humans define it, has been around longer than humans, so to say the world needs to end is an unnecessary and costly decision. Also, what is "evil" to some, may be considered "good" to others. That's why I agree with Sam Harris's contention that if an objective measure of morality is to be studied, it must be predicated on a good act (right) or a bad act (wrong), and whether or not the good act or bad act improves the net well-being of a population - within this framework, I agree that you can study morality scientifically.

Don't end the world, just help to improve the overall quality of it. Ending it is a cop out in my honest opinion.

Blah blah duality bull# knee-jerk reponse! Seems like the best new doctrine for modern zombies and best ways for the gate keepers to keep the prison going! Why so afraid of the extremes??? Afraid that the captives might actually get brave enough to get it over with? Even if it means death? Who said it cannot be all dark or all light or all evil or all good? I don't even think this illusion of a world is good vs evil, it is evil vs evil with a good mask.

The duality, there's no wrong/right, good/evil crowd don't even comprehend the magnitude of their own notions. Just cause you're rebellious of the religious connotations of these "concepts" doesn't mean they don't exist.

With earthlings, its so obvious.

You have the Americans and christians talking about how dangeroud muslims are because they make their women wear hijabs and are suicide bombers.

So, they go around neutralizing all these muslim nations, for the sake of their own safety and to make the world a better, more free, place.

Destroying evil = Ironic much?

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Technology is a materialistic thing. It is not always good. For example: Technology brought the Nuke, the Atomic bomb, torpedoes, GMO's, chemical warfare, clones, etc. You can not put a price on a human life.

Originally posted by Vrillion
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Technology is a materialistic thing. It is not always good. For example: Technology brought the Nuke, the Atomic bomb, torpedoes, GMO's, chemical warfare, clones, etc. You can not put a price on a human life.

Technology is nor good or evil. Just as much as a gun can kill some one all by its self.

I believe a lot of people feel as you do - horror accompanied by tremendous empathy. To know children are tortured by sex trafficking or animals being tortured and more is so abhorrent it brings about feelings of despair and thoughts of how powerless we are to stop it. This is where God comes in for me.

Has evil grown (become worse and more frequent)? It's hard to know if we just hear about it more or it actually has gotten worse. I know that media of nearly every kind has affected us in ways that have been studied and prove an increase in addiction, violence, anxiety, anti personality traits, etc. therefore I personally see the proof that it has gotten worse and we are still in the first generation of these technologies.

I think something bigger than the human ego is looking out for us - whatever that may be to each person: their God or even higher selves. I think will reach a point where things will blow up so we can find the balance a person herein speaks of. I would die in a heartbeat to make my children's future better. If it comes down to us destroying this remarkable planet - it's best we go before we do that. I think the earth will survive no matter what we do. Maybe we are living in the dark ages of evil for a reason and maybe we have something to offer that has not yet been revealed.

Crazy world right now. Hands down. Not one person I know does not also believe this. I think before we see an end to the evil a lot of people will die but I don't think it's up to us to decide who or when. To believe we can end this by dying Is why we are in the positions we are in. Ego. It's bigger than us and it will correct itself. I hope

Every action has a equal and opposite reaction
Every reaction has a equal and opposite action
It law of the universe

Good and Evil are equal one cannot exist with out the other.
Nothing can be perceived with out duality because it cannot be perceived with out a opposite to compare it to.
Its only righteous when the operator chose.

Originally posted by Dianec
I believe a lot of people feel as you do - horror accompanied by tremendous empathy. To know children are tortured by sex trafficking or animals being tortured and more is so abhorrent it brings about feelings of despair and thoughts of how powerless we are to stop it. This is where God comes in for me.

Has evil grown (become worse and more frequent)? It's hard to know if we just hear about it more or it actually has gotten worse. I know that media of nearly every kind has affected us in ways that have been studied and prove an increase in addiction, violence, anxiety, anti personality traits, etc. therefore I personally see the proof that it has gotten worse and we are still in the first generation of these technologies.

I think something bigger than the human ego is looking out for us - whatever that may be to each person: their God or even higher selves. I think will reach a point where things will blow up so we can find the balance a person herein speaks of. I would die in a heartbeat to make my children's future better. If it comes down to us destroying this remarkable planet - it's best we go before we do that. I think the earth will survive no matter what we do. Maybe we are living in the dark ages of evil for a reason and maybe we have something to offer that has not yet been revealed.

Crazy world right now. Hands down. Not one person I know does not also believe this. I think before we see an end to the evil a lot of people will die but I don't think it's up to us to decide who or when. To believe we can end this by dying Is why we are in the positions we are in. Ego. It's bigger than us and it will correct itself. I hope

Has evil grown? Or has it all ways been this way? Remember the media only reports the bad, not because thats all people want to know about but because thats all the controllers want us to know. Yet some how with all this control we find a way. Its the masqito attracted to the dim light in the darkness. I can see your perspective of a bubble bursting. Look at life, its a series of ups and downs. That is the balance as a whole for every thing. For individual life and for the universe as a whole. But what is the opposite of that? Downs and ups? Or possibly ups and downs at the same time. Are we experiencing that now? Their is so much evil in the world today but yet it breads much more good. Most of us only see what the media wants us to see. Its the most power system of control in recorded history. It tells the controllers exactly who you are. YET it provides us with a medium to control the controllers.

Originally posted by Vrillion
The true question I am aiming at here is... Would you want to end the World so you can stop evil and it's gory nature but you would also destroy your existence, good, and neutrality or would you let evil roam the World while you live with it fighting against it?

If you CANNOT fully understand or are AWARE of the ENERGIES that make up the Yin/Yan & the BARRIER holding the 2 observable energy aspects of EXISTENCE in the pic above, from your POV as good and bad etc. Then to make a decision UPON OTHERS w/o understanding fully or being more enlightened / AWARE to the OBJECTIVE reality of the Yin/Yan & the BARRIER aspects of Existence, would somewhat be immature and dangerous to the and others. The issues of EA*RTH may be tied to higher levels of conscious understanding and if not aware of or enlightened on the Objective matter of what's going on on and off EA*RTH then to destroy the planets inhabitants may just cause more PAIN and ERROR do to being dim on subjects that assumed where thought enlightened enough on to move against a population.

So 1 does not feel its a good idea to end the world in an attempt to end evol especially if not aware of again the Objective reality of what is going on. For you may in the end, end up paying for it in ways the current conscious level of the may not be able to comprehend as of yet. Why still in 3D prana suits

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reply to post by Vrillion


I understand where you are right now as I've been there. I used to think that total destruction of the human species would be the only way to end evil. I have also been in the same place as described in the first reply; that evil is required in order for the universe to function. Both perspectives are wrong. Yes, I will say "wrong" without qualifying it with words like "in my opinion" or "I feel" because I can tell you, absolutely, that this is wrong.

Evil is not necessary. At all. There is no required amount of evil in order to keep the gears running. Duality exists but it simply cannot apply to everything. That's silly. Good and evil are a couple of things that it does not apply to. What's the opposite of blue? Red. If there are not equal amounts of red and blue in the worlds, does the world not function well? Would we be out of balance? No. We would just be either more red or more blue.

Love and goodness are two things that extinguish evil and hate. And that's okay. If we woke up tomorrow and there was no hate and no evil, the world would not be out of balance or implode. It would simply be better. Don't let people convince you that evil is required because of some poorly understood philosophy of duality. Even Buddhism (which is ironically sited when people mention duality) does not believe that evil is a part of duality.

Interesting...

Perhaps, to end evil in the world would be where "we" as human beings, perceived a world without it?

Perchance to dream?

Great Buddha once said "Life is suffering."

How can one conclude that he was "great" when this is what he offers? In this one sentence he summed up the thinking of man without His Creator. Buddhism is an insidious religion which does nothing to address the problem of physical suffering on this earth. It just preaches "that's your lot". How about finding out what your Creator has to say about the source of suffering, misery and death? How about, as He commands you, to judge yourself against His Word and see just how far we are fallen? How about understanding that evil can only ever produce misery and death, and that His good can only ever bring peace and life?

When man defines his own "good", it's based upon nothing higher than pleasure and what feels good. Take for example the complete 180 in sexual expression in this society. Since that decade of "sexual liberation", 50,000,000 unborn babies have been slaughtered as a direct result. And yet, we still think that change in morality is "good"? That figure should make us stop and think 1)how is what society relabelled as good leaving a trail of murder behind it and 2) why won't we look to our behaviours, acts and thinking to see how and why that genocide started? We all know why - sex became casual and based on pleasure instead of the creation of life, and the unending indoctrination to redefine infanticide as "abortion". But what if tomorrow we all woke up and those 50 million babies were laying dismembered in their blood all across this land? Close your eyes and picture it - only at that point could the masses 1) realise that it was blatant murder and 2) actually see the devastation that what we declared "good" must not be His good because it's producing death.

Jesus Christ told the world of Adamic man the truth - it's our own wicked lusts and desires which produce the suffering, oppression and victimisation in the world! 'Great' Buddha on the other hand concludes that baby's lot was to be in suffering therefore nothing can be done! The former holds man accountable for that murder whilst the second merely excuses it. The former holds out the solution - to be born of the Spirit and water in a new birth which will overcome our evil desires and the other just says don't worry, the baby will just be reborn! Which do you think appeals to those who love truth, and which do you think appeals to man who wants to continue in his ways? Can we not see that this very reason is why Jesus Christ was kicked out of all public life and why 'eastern spirituality' is being brought into our homes, our schools and our corporate life? Man, consumed by his lusts, will only listen to what he WANTS to hear and will reject what he doesn't want to hear.

That distinction between the two sums up what Jesus Christ declared - the thief only comes to steal, kill and destroy but that He comes to offer LIFE. And it sums up what the Holy Spirit wrote through John:

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God. John 3:16-21

The knowledge of evil is within man. Look around and you cannot help but notice its release at the end of the Millennium. There is only one choice for those in Adam - to be in the true Christ. The new creation of man has been offered for 2,000 years, yet as in the days of Judea, the world will choose that old man the insurrectionist, murderer and robber and to crucify the Saviour who offers the solution - the new creation. The wicked kill the righteous, just as Cain slaughtered Able. There is the cause of suffering and death. Unregenerate man who keeps listening to his unregenerate self and other unregenerate men. We don't want to look into the mirror which is the Bible because we see ourselves. We close it in rejection, concluding that the Creator is the Evil one instead of what He really shows us - that it's man and always has been. Once you understand that, and are convicted of your thoughts and beliefs, He transforms before your very eyes! From evil to only Good. From hate to love. From unjust to Just. From a killer to a Saviour. From Unmerciful to Merciful. But it's not He that changes - it's us that are changed.

Life isn't to suffer. Life is to live in His righteousness and Holiness as it was supposed to be.

reply to post by Vrillion


There are many theories concerning its role and nature in reality. Evil, as it so is gloriously named, is by and by the natural state of motion. The Universe is a hostile enviroment. No saftey here. Not for any one of us.

reply to post by Vrillion


You are almost there. Now think about this: what if there was no more humans, would such "evil" still exist? Because i mean isnt "evil" inherently a human's attribute? Like you know, it would come FROM humans. After all you dont see that kind of behaviour anywhere else but in humans. Makes you rethink the sacrosanct "evolution" and "humanity"

reply to post by Vrillion


Of course every time you watch the news, it's bad. They intentionally put negative stuff on there instead of positive because the negativity is more interesting for most people. Have you ever watched a movie? It is always the negative plot that makes it fun.

Just take a look at what happened in science this week (March 3 - March 10th, 2013): LINK.

Ending the world would NOT be a way to stop "evil" because the world will never die, it will always redevelop itself after a while. The grass will grow, animals will run wild, and eventually new life forms (and probably humans again?).

The only way to end the earth would be for something really bad to happen, such as the sun running out of energy of the earth going into a black hole. Otherwise there is always a possibility for it to rejuvenate and for "evil" to exist again through life-forms.

A very pessimistic view. There are other alternatives...

Originally posted by WhoKnows100

Great Buddha once said "Life is suffering."

How can one conclude that he was "great" when this is what he offers? In this one sentence he summed up the thinking of man without His Creator. Buddhism is an insidious religion which does nothing to address the problem of physical suffering on this earth. It just preaches "that's your lot"......'Great' Buddha on the other hand concludes that baby's lot was to be in suffering therefore nothing can be done! The former holds man accountable for that murder whilst the second merely excuses it. The former holds out the solution - to be born of the Spirit and water in a new birth which will overcome our evil desires and the other just says don't worry, the baby will just be reborn! Which do you think appeals to those who love truth, and which do you think appeals to man who wants to continue in his ways?

Your understanding of Buddism is incorrect and you are in no way representing it's teachings truthfully. This is not surprising since you seem to be a fundementalist Christian and seem to be confused in the same ways many other Christians are also confused in regards to Eastern Religions and/or Philosophy.

If you'd like to discuss this topic deeper, you might find that they are in fact much more aligned in the same ways and teachings than you currently think. For now, however, I think you should simply stop preaching about it (Buddism), until you can do so correctly.

reply to post by Vrillion


That's like saying only the living commit crime, therefore to solve crime kill everyone.

Kind of pointless.

Besides, if evil is so strong that it would warrant the end of life of this planet, it would simply move along to another inhabited world in the Cosmos...and we'd all be gone for nothing.

Good people cannot do good deeds if they're dead.