Interesting Anagrams of the Possible New Pope and The Tower Connection!

I understand everything you claim, but I think that all of it is a stretch. The anagrams are interesting, but apart from that, there is nothing even suggestive to this in my opinion. I think that this is sheer coincidence. The whole coat of arms and the card are completely unrelated. So all that remains is the anagram. And Iscariot itself is only loosely related to the overall picture, therefore it is much more likely that it is chance at work. The other anagram is the most interesting, but even still, there is nothing but individual words, not a sentence. It is quite easy to pull out the words that fit your theory, while ignoring those that don't. And that usually means that the particular line of reasoning is wrong. And there is not even much reasoning here, only illogical jumps.

Originally posted by tinhattribunal
from the op...

the '2 keys' would be the keys of peter...

from St. Alphonsus Liguori, The Dignities and Duties of the Priest (1927)...

"The priest has the power of the keys, or the power of delivering sinners from Hell, of making them worthy of Paradise, and of changing them from the slaves of Satan into the children of God. And God Himself is obliged to abide by the judgment of His priests, and either not to pardon or to pardon." If this is true, then a system determines your eternal future, rather than God

I find it interesting how, throught much of its art, the Roman Catholic Church claims that it has the keys to the gates to heaven. No they don't.

The RCC hold the keys to phony set of gates that they have constructed infront of the gates to heaven, and will not allow, and have not allowed, the true holder of the keys to heaven (Jesus) through their gates unless he accepts Catholic terms. Those terms are the acceptance of same-sex relationships and free passage of dark-spirited individuals (bad people) into heaven. Catholic terms or political ideology, in a word, can be described as homo-socialist, and homo-socialism is not Jesus' desire.

I agree with you that the RCC works far above its station to its own agenda, as you made clear in the passage you quoted from The Dignities and Duties of the Priest.

The M on the coat of arms reminds me of the M on JPII coffin, look at the thread in my signature if you dont know what I mean.

Originally posted by 3n19m470

Originally posted by sealing
Has anyone said the lightening hitting the Tower
Is the Barrack?

If the church picks a pope named Peter they are knowingly
using the prophecy to garner hysteria.

Blue beam type Virgin Mary apparitions mandatory .

My guess is it won't be so obvious. His name or birthplace or something will decode or relate to Peter.

Ah. So I missed the obvious fact this cardinal has Pietro in his name That would be like me...

reply to post by Signals


Hi,

Tom Horn seemed to have the best explanation as to what is expected with the prophesy of the coming final Catholic pope in my opinion. Here is one of his interviews on the matter, it will surely add to everyone's own research of the matter. enjoy...

I look at the tarot card and I think of the lightning strike on St Peters Basilica right after Benedict XVI announced his resignation. I see the two falling people and think of the false prophet and antichrist falling from heaven like lightning. I see the 22 yellow things and think of BHO being in Israel on the 22nd and the fact that we will have a new pope by then. Just throwin that out there.

reply to post by micmerci


Yup, there may be some significance to the 22 aspect.

I did another thread about weird occurrences surrounding it-

* March 22, 2013

3/22 -



* Dutch Queen Beatrix abdicating throne after 33 years as head of state, Crown Prince Willem-Alexander becoming first king in more than 100 years

* Olympus Has Fallen release date March 22nd 3/22 322 Skull & Bones

* Obama in Jerusalem 3/22

* 3/22 33rd anniversary of Georgia Guidestones!

* Room 322 at the ZaZa Hotel in Houston rented out imgur.com...

* Superbowl blackout lasts 34 minutes... 33 + 1

www.abovetopsecret.com...

personally I have always thought that the Ides of March was of importance.
1.the assassination of Julius Caesar
2.The Flamen Dialis led the "Ides sheep" (ovis Idulius) in procession along the Via Sacra to the arx, where it was sacrificed
3.the Feast of Anna Perenna, a goddess of the year from the time when March was the first month of the Roman calendar.

the ides can be either the 13th or the 15h and the conclave to elect the next pope starts on the 12th of March giving a 3 day window.

once again just putting it out there.

The "M" on Papal crests represents the Virgin Mary, and I don't think that's up for debate. It is what it is. (en.wikipedia.org...)

A user pointed out the star above the "M" on the Cardinal's coat of arms was a reference to the Wheel of Fortune. While it's an interesting theory, I think that it has more to do with Mary ("star over the sea") than Tarot symbolism. (Plus, Catholic teaching prohibits the use of Tarot cards, so I doubt one would be used on a crest, Cardinal or otherwise.)

However, I do like the pairing of current events with XVI, The Tower. You may be onto something.

I'd also like to point out that "Peter the Roman" may refer in part to an American pope; America has often been called the "new Roman Empire". The use of "Peter" may have several interpretations: One is simply referring to St. Peter being the beginning and ending of the Catholic church. Another may be a tie-in with Revelation and that "Peter the Roman" may be the anthesis to St. Peter and is the religious figure that helps to usher in the Antichrist. (After all, even though St. Peter died in Rome, he was not a Roman, and Roman ideals were more or less diametrically opposed to early Christian thinking and philosophy.) A third rationale may be that "Peter the Roman" does such a terrible job that the Catholic church (or, at the very least, the Vatican) is dissolved by an international tribune ("the dreadful judge") or somehow brings about Doomsday/Final Judgement singehandedly. And finally, "Peter the Roman" may be playing a shepherding-type role (because there was that part about him leading and nourishing his flock.)

I'd like to think that the first is the most likely for several reasons. Even though it would probably be in the Vatican's best interest to go with a "liberal" South American pope (they're losing followers and don't have enough priests; moving into the twenty-first century would retain younger church members), they probably won't do this because the Vatican is very much out of touch with the world in general and reality as a whole. There is a conservative American cardinal situated as a front-runner. Also, and American pope could possibly intercede to get the Vatican back in good standing with Wall Street (and simultaneously perpetuate the banking scandals, but whatever).

Or, who knows. Maybe the next pope will choose "Peter" as his papal name after all.

I was thinking about this last night. I was thinking that maybe the RCC is so screwed up that "they need" Peter to come back to fix it, cause he is the only one that can.

Benedict steps down
Peter returns to fix the church.

Probably not but just thinking about stuff, its interesting!

reply to post by Signals



Like the Tower XVI ala Benedict --- When he announced his resignation, the lightning from the card appeared at struck the temple --- remember?

Pretty interesting stuff.
Love anagrams.

Very Intersting...

Cardinal Bertone’s coat of Arms shows the Tower sitting on the hill, and Rome is the city of 7 hills.

The 16th card of the Tarot, showing lightning striking the tower, could mark the overthrow of Babel or Babylon, and the crown comes off the top of the tower...lightning also struck after Benedicts resignation.

Benedict carries the Roman 16 behind his name, Oddly enough, the 16th chapter of Revelation talks about the fall of Babylon and the outpouring of the 7 last plagues. “And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in rememberance before God...” Revelation 16:19

The keys on Bertone's coat of arms could represent the "keys of the kingdom" that were given to Peter in Matthew 16:19. According to Roman Catholicism, these keys represent all authority in heaven and in Earth, and as the "rightful possessor" through the passing of those keys, has all authority...I hope that's in a more of a metaphorical sense

I just noticed, both passages are from 16:19...anybody wanna place bets on Bertone being elected on the 19th? Lol

Originally posted by Wifibrains
Very interesting indeed should we see the fall of the Vatican. How old is that card?

How old is the Tarot?

The Viscontti goes back to the 1400's.

Some cards have been lost and others "recreated".

The gold leaf deck is quite beautiful.

Not to support Bertone ( i dont think he's quite human), but, the Tower isnt completely negative.

Tear down to build better and stronger. Elimination of falseness.

hmmm creepy...
I wonder if we are witnessing the fall of the roman church?

reply to post by ArchaicDesigns


Let's not get carried away yet.

There are at least 50 cities claiming to be "The City on 7 Hills"

Furthermore, if The Catholic Church=Babylon, then Protestant Churches=abominations,because Babylon is the Mother of All Abominations, according to Revelations and the Catholic Church gave birth to Protestantism. Since I don't think Protestantism=abominations, I don't believe Babylon=RCC

Bertone is from the town of Romano Canavese, here are two photos from the town's website:





I dont think they are the same tower, one is supposed to be outside the town on a hill, the other one looks like it is part of the town.

This is thier coat or arms


According to the thier history page:
In the fourteenth century Romano was also involved in the Tuchini Rebellion, a rebellion by the peasants harassed by nobles which is also remembered in the historic Carnival of Ivrea. During these dramatic events, the castle was destroyed and only one tower remained intact, this tower is still a symbol of the town. Throughout the Middle Ages the jurisdiction of the territory of the Romano was a source of conflict between the bishop of Ivrea and Savoy. Some of the most powerful noble families were the Orengiano and counts of San Martino.

The Tower, which is isolated on a moraine hill*, is the symbol of Romano Canavese.

It dates back to the thirteenth century, is mentioned in the statutes of Romano in 1315: in case of danger the men of the village were called with shouts.

Measuring 5.50 x 5.40 meters at the base and the height is 27 meters. Originally the tower was equipped with battlements and was about 25 meters high. In a painting dating from around 1800, you can see the original structure before it was remodeled in to a belfry.

The tower is built of brick and has no decorations. The walls have a thickness of 1.60 meters at the base and are composed of an external face and an inner, thick 20-25 cm each, the inner cavity is filled with stones and pieces of brick, mixed with mortar.

The ancient access door is currently six meters from the ground level, it was accessed by a wooden ladder or rope, removable in case of danger.

On the wall to the west tower has a deep fissure, caused by lightning May 5, 1890.
Town or Romano Canavese (Italian site)

*A moraine is any glacially formed accumulation of unconsolidated glacial debris (soil and rock).

So my guess is that the tower is on his coat of arms to announce where he was born, i.e. it is a very important part of who he is, he wanted everyone to know that he was from the town of Romano.

Also interesting to note, the Italian word for moraine is moreno, which could also mean Moorish. So a tower with its foundations in the Moorish empire (or Islam). So maybe the rebuilt church will have some stronger Islamic ties.... or interfaith.

Does anyone see anything more in the crack caused by lightning?

One last thing to note, even if he isnt elected pope this time, there might still be time for him after the next one is dead. Also I think the fact that Ratzinger resigned rather than died in the job makes him a false pope, he was never really pope so he isnt the 111th of Malarchy's prophecy but the next one will be.

reply to post by Snsoc


The RCC did not give birth to Protestantism, it was a reaction against it, a complete return to Christianity and rejection of all the Babylonian religion that the RCC had incorporated. There has always been a parallel protestant church, raising its head here and there, Luther was just the first one who got away with it thanks to political expediency on the part of the German princes.

I have finally gotten around to having a look at who the other contenders are, there is at least one other Peter, Cardinal Peter Erdo of Hungary. Interesting guy, sounds to me what the RCC needs today.

Peter Erdo

Originally posted by Cinrad
reply to post by Snsoc

 

The RCC did not give birth to Protestantism, it was a reaction against it, a complete return to Christianity and rejection of all the Babylonian religion that the RCC had incorporated. There has always been a parallel protestant church, raising its head here and there, Luther was just the first one who got away with it thanks to political expediency on the part of the German princes.

Protestantism is not a complete return to Christianity. They threw out whatever Scriptures they didn't like, and changed the interpretation of the ones they couldn't. Luther wanted to throw out the Book of James because it said "Faith without works is dead," and this went in the face of his new "just believe" doctrine.

And there is no "Babylonian religion incorporated into the RCC." None.

reply to post by Cinrad


He has the name...Peter....and helps the "Roma's"...gypsies.

So could he be Peter the Roman?

As president of the Council of European Bishops' Conferences, Erdo paid special attention to relations with the Jewish community and the Roma -- or gypsies -- who are among Hungary's poorest and least educated people.

www.usatoday.com...




AND.....he has a twin!



And just for shats and giggles.

'Peter erdo'
anagrams to
'Deeper rot.