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DOJ to Begin "Crackdown" on Conspiracy Theorists

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posted on Mar, 5 2013 @ 11:38 PM
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Does this not prove that the very people who thought the government was coming for them, now have the government coming after them.

So their conspiracy fears are confirmed.



posted on Mar, 6 2013 @ 12:10 AM
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welp wont have to worry here , as soon as you get close to the answer



THREAD CLOSED

HEH



posted on Mar, 6 2013 @ 12:39 AM
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Originally posted by canucks555
Religious people shouldn't need guns anyways. I thought that The Lord protected them.

Oh wait, that's a bunch of bunk
Isn't it?

If I was government and a bunch of religious people were planning on going to war with me..
guess what?

I'd prep as well.. ")



Depends on your belief system. If you believe in reincarnation, that your consciousness is merely the spirit that connects to the body through the brain than even if you are killed here, now, physically, you will still reincarnate somwhere else in another time. That is why karma is spoken of around the world; if you lead a righteous path in this life your spirit will be born in a better time and healthier body and vice versa.
People pray to God to have mercy upon their soul, don't they?

But, one could always hope that a supreme spirit would protect your physical self too and it is never wrong to practice selfdefence by any means you find necessary.

Hopefully nobody has to die when things really start getting bad. Pray, to whoever or whatever you wish that all will oppose oppression and justice and order shall be restored through peace by people uniting rather than fighting against each other, civilian, police, military and governmental.
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posted on Mar, 6 2013 @ 02:23 AM
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Originally posted by Tw0Sides
The Gov SHOULD investigate Fringe Militia Groups for cripes sake.

Conspiracy Theorist are another thing Entirely, and Are NOT what this Thread is about, but Hey OP, I'll give you a F and Star, seems thats what you are after, not the Truth.

We no longer HAVE a "Government"...

In FACT our "Government" is being RUN by a "Fringe Militia Group" for cryin' out loud.

If ANYTHING needs to be investigated, it would be the Illuminati "Fringe Militia Group" that is masquerading as the SPLC.

The two videos in this post make this VERY obvious to anyone (except for the pojama people of course).



posted on Mar, 6 2013 @ 02:26 AM
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Cracking down on "conspiracy minded patriot groups."? We know that SPLC is gonna use a very broad definition of that phrase in order to scare the general public.The government has been trying to stamp out dissent for years some would say since the days of the founding fathers.



posted on Mar, 6 2013 @ 02:48 AM
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Interesting how they used OK, since numerous things point to them planting the bombs and helping him obtain the materials lol. And IM pretty sure that wasn't about taking peoples guns I could be wrong because I was still pretty young but IM pretty sure he belonged to an infiltrated militia group and was set up as the patsy. So we could pass patriot act, but sadly not enough people died...

But like true Americans my government persevered through thick and thin to cook up a BIGGER PLAN, 9/11 and over 150 thousand people made money on that day betting against those airlines,,,, why are we after terrorist, shouldnt we be after the people who made money on blood money....... impresive to say the least that ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND PEOPLE MADE MONEY BETTING AGAINST THE AIRLINES..... and they say no conspiracy,, WELL SOMEONE KNEW heh and they wernt all tan either.

just remember , all PATRIOTS start out as terrorists.



posted on Mar, 6 2013 @ 04:56 AM
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You better look to the sky's you American ATSers.

Holder does not rule out drone strike scenario in U.S.
Linkedition.cnn.com...


Could you become a drone target


Thanks



posted on Mar, 6 2013 @ 04:59 AM
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By the way; Cohen is a famous last name of Jews from the Israeli, Levite tribe....He must be connected.



posted on Mar, 6 2013 @ 05:17 AM
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Originally posted by VeritasAequitas
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By the way; Cohen is a famous last name of Jews from the Israeli, Levite tribe....He must be connected.


The Cohen are the hereditary priests of Judaism. Of course, Judaism no longer uses priests, using teachers (rabbis) instead, however, the Cohen are supposed retake the priesthood if a new temple is built.

However, Cohen is not exclusively a Jewish name. There are many non-Jews named Cohen as well.

In any case, the guy's religion doesn't seem germane to the question.



posted on Mar, 6 2013 @ 05:19 AM
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Yeah;But not everyone who comes to sights like these is a conspiracy person.Some just like to read what other people are doing.No one can really know the true nature of things.Only speculate.



posted on Mar, 6 2013 @ 06:25 AM
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Is this a veiled threat?



posted on Mar, 6 2013 @ 06:41 AM
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And the purges begin. What a wonderful reign of terror is will be



posted on Mar, 6 2013 @ 07:00 AM
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I predicted on this forum about a year ago that the government would begin to demonize militias in order to shift the country's fears from "foreign terrorists" to purely American "domestic terrorists". It's happening now.

Another prediction: False flag involving a militia before Obama leaves office.

They desperately need to make us all fear anyone who considers themselves a patriot, and militias are the perfect starting point. That's the only way they can succeed in their NWO agenda.



posted on Mar, 6 2013 @ 07:06 AM
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Given ATS's track record how do you think they'll 'Holder" up? I am not really asking a sincere question as you might have figured out by now. But for those who are in the dark as regards ATS's real position on "conspiracy theorists" and who might need an answer to my 'rhetorical inquiry' - check the number of times good and decent inquiries have been shut down and deleted and members banned here at these supposed 'conspiracy forums' for asking legitimate questions about Sandy Hook.

The topic of the thread has its origins here in Cass Sunstein - avowed enemy of freedom.....

Top Obama czar: Infiltrate all 'conspiracy theorists'

Opening remarks:


Cass Sunstein
In a lengthy academic paper, President Obama’s regulatory czar, Cass Sunstein, argued the U.S. government should ban “conspiracy theorizing.”
Among the beliefs Sunstein would ban is advocating that the theory of global warming is a deliberate fraud.

Sunstein also recommended the government send agents to infiltrate “extremists who supply conspiracy theories” to disrupt the efforts of the “extremists” to propagate their theories.

In a 2008 Harvard law paper, “Conspiracy Theories,” Sunstein and co-author Adrian Vermeule, a Harvard law professor, ask, “What can government do about conspiracy theories?”

“We can readily imagine a series of possible responses. (1) Government might ban conspiracy theorizing. (2) Government might impose some kind of tax, financial or otherwise, on those who disseminate such theories.”

In the 30-page paper – obtained and reviewed by WND – Sunstein argues the best government response to “conspiracy theories” is “cognitive infiltration of extremist groups.”

Continued Sunstein: “We suggest a distinctive tactic for breaking up the hard core of extremists who supply conspiracy theories: cognitive infiltration of extremist groups, whereby government agents or their allies (acting either virtually or in real space, and either openly or anonymously) will undermine the crippled epistemology of believers by planting doubts about the theories and stylized facts that circulate within such groups, thereby introducing beneficial cognitive diversity.”

Read more about Cass Sunstein’s agenda in “Shut Up, America!: The End of Free Speech”

Sunstein said government agents “might enter chat rooms, online social networks, or even real-space groups and attempt to undermine percolating conspiracy theories by raising doubts about their factual premises, causal logic or implications for political action.”

Sunstein defined a conspiracy theory as “an effort to explain some event or practice by reference to the machinations of powerful people, who have also managed to conceal their role.”


To BHO and his kind - Sic semper tyrannis
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posted on Mar, 6 2013 @ 07:36 AM
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I really don't think we (the community of conspiracy sites) have much, if anything to be worried about. This sort of thing has undoubtedly been brought up before, but ATS is still here.



posted on Mar, 6 2013 @ 07:37 AM
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That's exactly right this gun running criminal belongs In federal prison.



posted on Mar, 6 2013 @ 07:52 AM
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"The resurgence of the Patriot movement, as well as the broader radical right, has been fueled by the election of America’s first black president, the troubled economy and non-white immigration".

Really, so its 2 parts racism and 1 part money.

Interesting.

And here I thought it was about a private for profit "Federal Reserve", gun grabs, "free speech zones", armed raids on dairy farms, FEMA camps, warrantless spying, warrantless sneak and peak searches, suspension of habeas corpus, the TSA style police state, never ending wars, indefinite detentions, NDAA, black sites, secret renditions, citizen kill lists and citizen assassinations...

Silly me.


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posted on Mar, 6 2013 @ 07:58 AM
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Yeah I think they are referring more to groups like "F.E.A.R" that wanted to assassinate you know who (I dont want to type those words together and get placed on a watch list)

Also they wanted to use explosives on G. buildings. They even went so far as to buy like 100,000 dollars worth of weapons and ammo to take over the fort they were stationed in...oh yeah, they were army and when not on duty, were active militia men.

I think you can and are still encouraged to hope for benevolent ET´s to come down and fix everything. They seem to like that. Some conspiracy theorists are welcome for the dis- info they sell....



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posted on Mar, 6 2013 @ 08:10 AM
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yeah, the racial connection is just bogus. They use that to discredit the constitutionalist curiosity in all Americans by making these movements seem connected with racially motivated hate groups from the south. That is just crap.

Not true. There may be racists that happen to be constitutionalists but over all that is not even a relevant factor to what motivates them and orients their thoughts.

The "race divide" is an outdated tactic from an antiquated and counter productive play book that they cant seem to update. To them "improvement" is resorting to medevil force and fear.....they lack ALL talent for the innovation of mass opinion molding (I say good). They either ask God kissinger or use pain and fear.....

dumb.


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posted on Mar, 6 2013 @ 08:37 AM
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I must agree with some of your thoughts. As far as 'militia groups' are concerned. Here last year some 'loosely banded far right groups' wanted to stop a mosque from being built. It was nothing but a kindergarten for old men and the opposition was stupid. They tried to recruit more mainstream individuals through, as the government called it, "a hate based forum". It just went away one day-the mosque got built and a bunch of old guys sit on their knees , pray all day and bother no one. Some of the former 'group' said the government paid hacker to bring down their site.
I know nothing about such things-could this be true?

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