Russian President discusses possibility of nuclear conflicts

Originally posted by rockymcgilicutty
reply to post by snowspirit

 

It seem's to me that the event happened in 2007. I googled the story, and read several recent articals, but they all seemed to have the same text as the 2007 artical.

The bottom line IMO is that it is really no big deal. In a earlier reply I pointed out that since the 1950's both the U.S and Russia have made thousand's of pratice run, for training with nukes at each other.

It is a big deal because since the end of the USSR the USA doesn't send B-52's with nukes to their border the way they used to. Why is Russia deciding to start this again?

Who's being the provocateur?

Originally posted by mbkennel

Originally posted by rockymcgilicutty
reply to post by snowspirit

 

It seem's to me that the event happened in 2007. I googled the story, and read several recent articals, but they all seemed to have the same text as the 2007 artical.

The bottom line IMO is that it is really no big deal. In a earlier reply I pointed out that since the 1950's both the U.S and Russia have made thousand's of pratice run, for training with nukes at each other.

It is a big deal because since the end of the USSR the USA doesn't send B-52's with nukes to their border the way they used to. Why is Russia deciding to start this again?

Who's being the provocateur?

In my opinion the reason that Russia is beginning to use 'cold war' tactics
all over again is because Putin wants a 'bogey man' in the same way as many other countries do.

He creates the American enemy of old, to Rally the Russian people round the him under
the Nationalism flag.

As for the rest who say that this thread is a waste of time, and say that Oh big deal its been happening forever, you can say what you want and obviously you haven't seen the second video in its entirety or been paying attention to current events or to past events. So if you have nothing constructive to say then please move along. This thread was made to get to the bottom of what is going on and to analyze the facts and YES Medvedev doesn't outright say Obama but if you really think about it who else other than US or our allies have been causing havok and destruction in sovereign nations in recent years? Its hard to see people on here not looking at the entire picture and its amazing that they dont see whats directly in front of them, and whether you call it views new or whatever its still news if you cant step back from the situation with OPEN eyes and see the bigger picture you obviously need to find another thread. That being said I appreciate your commentary on the subject notice i said COMMENTARY not one liners that are a waste of space on the page.

Originally posted by mbkennel

Originally posted by rockymcgilicutty
reply to post by snowspirit

 

It seem's to me that the event happened in 2007. I googled the story, and read several recent articals, but they all seemed to have the same text as the 2007 artical.

The bottom line IMO is that it is really no big deal. In a earlier reply I pointed out that since the 1950's both the U.S and Russia have made thousand's of pratice run, for training with nukes at each other.

It is a big deal because since the end of the USSR the USA doesn't send B-52's with nukes to their border the way they used to. Why is Russia deciding to start this again?

Who's being the provocateur?

Yes they do.
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Besides if you look at my earlier post. I found a artical where they did the exact same thing in 2007.

Originally posted by SPECULUM
The only way that this could occur is if the US is in on it. You know the Russians just developed a new bomb technology that doesn't use fissionable material, therefore there is no radiation contamination and it gives a nice nuclear explosion affect

Well obviously, America is in on EVERYTHING, the rest of the world can't do anything themselves.

Russia isn't very happy with the United States right now. First there was the missile shield in Poland and the Czech Republic. Also the US has been playing in Russia's back yard recruiting NATO members. Remember Georgia a few years back (2008) when Russia invaded them? The US was training Georgian troops at the time and Georgia had a bid in to become a NATO member. Russia told Georgia "either your with us or prepare to freeze every winter". Russia's not playing around and they're becoming hostile. Other NATO memebers in the region are worried Russia going to invade. The US sees it as a threat to undermine the sovereignty of NATO.

I did watch the 2nd video in it's entirety, and not to be demeaning but it is from LPAC which is associated with Lyndon LaRouche and he is not known for being "well centered", politically or mentally. Overlooking that point, it is good to be aware, but what does being scared and paranoid accomplish?

reply to post by watcher3339

As for your disdain toward the U.S. - there is nothing colonial or meddling that the U.S. has done that the Brits haven't done before us. On that front history still shows them to be bigger and "better". You can feel bad about that as a Brit or you can say bygones. But you are judging and the Brits are in no position to do that.

It is my impression, and thus only my opinion, that there is a great deal of difference between British and American 'colonisation'

For the most part British colonisation was carried out at a time when the countries being colonised were, or were perceived to be, not so technologically advanced. Yes the British did plunder these countries for their wealth. You could say however that in return they built roads, railways and hospitals and other infrastructure and brought a system of law and democracy from the ground up. This is not to say that this was correct for that country but, despite obvious advantages for the British Crown, colonisation was on the whole a beneficial process.

Please forgive me if my view of the American model of 'colonisation' is wrong but to me it seems that the American model is bent first upon the destruction of the country, the deliverance of presumed freedom and democracy from 30,000ft, and the gift of depleted uranium to enhance the welfare of the population whist at the same time destroying any useful infrastructure. Rather than then setting up a colonial government the American model installs somewhat dubious puppet governments, which may later backfire on them with a vengeance.

American companies, including the banks, are installed in the meantime to clean up on oil, gas, rare earth etc and control the flow of money and increase the debt and the dependency of the vanquished country on American fast foods and other unhealthy fare is established. The British on the other hand took the fare of the colonised country and brought it home. Quite the opposite.

In fact I personally can see no similarity at all in the British and the Americans models of colonisation. I am not making a judgement for or against either, merely observing the models as I see them.

On ATS a lot has been said about lowering the population of the World.
As I see it, America is getting others to start a nuclear war.
They will keep pushing until it goes off.
And they will say “well, we did not start it!

Under America they have a city.
The people they want to save have a ticket to go to it.
If you Dont have one, you are to die up top.

LOL! XDDDD

The Russians are playing with the US x)


Tthey sneak in and stay for a while, and quickly leave once the US arrives or they get caught

(like the Russian Sub)

reply to post by buddha


Population control is my guess as well, then we'll have US "fighting for freedom" like they always do.

Originally posted by buddha
On ATS a lot has been said about lowering the population of the World.
As I see it, America is getting others to start a nuclear war.
They will keep pushing until it goes off.
And they will say “well, we did not start it!

Under America they have a city.
The people they want to save have a ticket to go to it.
If you Dont have one, you are to die up top.

If that is true (not saying that it isn't...just speculating) what would it accomplish? Those people living underground would be stuck down there for thousands of years because of radiation. When we no longer have access to the sun and nature we would cease being human and I'd welcome death because what was left of the world would not be worth living in.

Originally posted by Ophiuchus 13
so sides take care of the board / nest

logic unless requested from above sources wanting soul food sent in mass quantity for whatever reason, considered as well to try to find logics in these mass dispositions of Soul/Spirit/Internal ENERGY shared OBSERVED/WATCHED here.

I am really enjoying reading this thread, but WOW I am struggling to understand your posts brother, whats with the * in EA*RTH?

I am just about old enough to remember the 80s nuclear threat fear, all I remember about it was some awsome cold war inspired music and films...fear can we quite inspiring in some ways, bit surprised it has taken this long for the threat to resurface (if it has). Realistically there is far too much at stake though, money talks, the russians love making money and theres not much profit in a nuclear winter.

Originally posted by ausername
He can threaten all he wants, fact is Russia's annihilation, and complete destruction is assured, dozens of times over if need be.

So what is the point?

And in all likelyhood the same would happen to the usa. China would side with russia as well. MAD means no winners and that was the purpose behind acquiring hundreds if not thousands of thermonuclear warheads.

The elite from both countries will go underground in their bunkers and be saved. A few months later they will resurface. The idiots on the surface will have perished because they believe the mainstream lies of western propaganda.

Go ahead and believe I am some KGB agent for stating the obvious. I have seen your posts and you are a staunch israel supporter. At least I hope you are jewish and not some paid blogger spouting fabricated hate!

Just my two cent's

Hasn't MevDev been underfire from putin about being too reformist in the past couple of years? could this recent spat of sabre rattling be just him trying to get back into putin's good graces. And when I say too reformist, I mean by Putin's standards, not by the rest of the worlds.........

Originally posted by Darkphoenix77

Originally posted by buddha
On ATS a lot has been said about lowering the population of the World.
As I see it, America is getting others to start a nuclear war.
They will keep pushing until it goes off.
And they will say “well, we did not start it!

Under America they have a city.
The people they want to save have a ticket to go to it.
If you Dont have one, you are to die up top.

If that is true (not saying that it isn't...just speculating) what would it accomplish? Those people living underground would be stuck down there for thousands of years because of radiation. When we no longer have access to the sun and nature we would cease being human and I'd welcome death because what was left of the world would not be worth living in.

Not true! Many test nukes have been detonated below ground already by all powerful nations. Nukes have been detonated over japan during ww2. Then Japan suffered a nuclear reactor meltdown after the tsunami and earthquake 2 years ago.

In the southwest usa especially the nevada testsite many nukes have been tested. The bottom line is you don't need thousands of years to eliminate radiation, just a few months at most. The earth itself is radioactive, where do you think companies get uranium and plutonium from? Gamma rays are the most deadly. Alpha and beta radiation settles down and can be burried with soil.

The elite know what they are doing and should not be under-estimated. Besides the georgia guidestones are real and say 660 million population is what earth needs. They are located in atlanta georgia. 666 also being the number of satan and all that.

reply to post by LemaEcho


Come on ... story was on Fox News and they interviewed some nut job about it.
Fox News has a history of trying to get more views by lying about Russia and this is just another attempt. Remember the story about the protesters burning down half the city? Videos were filmed in Greece.

Fox News is just like low budget Hollywood.

reply to post by EarthCitizen07


The georgia guidestones mention to keep the population under 500 million to not be a cancer on the earth, and to live in better balance with it. Seems ideal to me. Nobody has a clue who erected it.

MAD doesn't jive with the guidestones. The ecological consequences of getting rid of 1 billion people by all out thermonuclear war doesn't justify it in the least. We simply have no clue how much more resiliency the environment can take from our damages since the industrial revolution. There are saner ways to deal with the population problem.

Originally posted by baburak
reply to post by LemaEcho

 

Come on ... story was on Fox News and they interviewed some nut job about it.

Fox News has a history of trying to get more views by lying about Russia and this is just another attempt. Remember the story about the protesters burning down half the city? Videos were filmed in Greece.

Fox News is just like low budget Hollywood.

Did you even read my post cause its sounding like you didn't, I said only reason i put that on there was to prove that it actually happened and the mainstream covered it. How bout reading the post before you start harping BS...and YES i sarcastically also said that its you guessed it FOX news, Im not new bud i know they blow smoke up everyone's A**es.

Originally posted by nomnom
reply to post by EarthCitizen07

 

The georgia guidestones mention to keep the population under 500 million to not be a cancer on the earth, and to live in better balance with it. Seems ideal to me. Nobody has a clue who erected it.

MAD doesn't jive with the guidestones. The ecological consequences of getting rid of 1 billion people by all out thermonuclear war doesn't justify it in the least. We simply have no clue how much more resiliency the environment can take from our damages since the industrial revolution. There are saner ways to deal with the population problem.

"The road to hell is paved with good intentions" Saint Bernard of Clairvaux

Much like the PROVED global warming hoax.

The cancer on earth are the luciferian bankers and the various royalty who leech and lie.

I am not saying we don't have *man made* problems and lack of common sense, I am saying the various enviromental movements have been hijacked by those luciferian bankers and royals with alternate agendas than what they advertise.