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The Quantum of Now

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posted on Mar, 3 2013 @ 06:58 AM
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Here's another in my series of short clips aimed at explaining the truth about reality to the Youtube generation.



Of course, being the sort of over-complicating person I am, I "used the notion in a sentence" and highlighted the psychological impact of the 1950's Cold War - Communist Expansion hysteria on the societal fabric of post-WWII white America (ripping it into a variety of counter-cultures - bikers, beatniks, and eventually hippies, punks, grungers, and whatever is emerging as we sit here and celebrate its diversity). I don't know. I think I just like the Film Noir clips that I got to work with by using the cause-effect story line of the psychotic break that brought on this nation's first significant and permanent "white" counterculture as the video's example.

Anyway, when something happens, it can't ever "un-happen", and that's a fact that persists indefinitely. And that's why time travel is impossible. And that's the point of the video.



posted on Mar, 3 2013 @ 08:16 AM
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Originally posted by NorEaster
Anyway, when something happens, it can't ever "un-happen", and that's a fact that persists indefinitely. And that's why time travel is impossible. And that's the point of the video.


Time Reversal


used data from the particle physics experiment BaBar (pictured right, at the SLAC National Accelerator Laboratory in Menlo Park, California) to make the first direct measurement confirming that time does not run the same forwards as backwards — at least for the B mesons that the experiment produced during its heyday. The application of quantum mechanics to fundamental particles rests on a symmetry known as CPT, for charge-parity-time, which states that fundamental processes remain unchanged when particles are replaced by their antimatter counterparts (C), left and right are reversed (P) and time runs in the reverse direction (T). Violations of C and P alone were first seen in radioactive decays in the 1950s, and BaBar was used to confirm violations of CP in B meson decays in 2001. To keep CPT intact, that implies that time reversal is also violated, but finding ways to compare processes running forwards and backwards in time has proven tricky.


Though yeah it's meant to be destructive going backwards I think.


Ummm seriously that video is messed up. I honestly don't know what it's going on about even after reading your paragraph
edit on 3-3-2013 by DaRAGE because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 3 2013 @ 08:37 AM
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If parallel universes/realities exist then we it is still possible for time travel to occur. To be honest after watching your video and reading what you typed I only have the slightest clue of what you're talking about.



posted on Mar, 3 2013 @ 12:35 PM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

I think you sort of have to be at least familiar with the work that's preceded this to appreciate it. Out of context, it can seem a bit disjointed. But if you are motivated enough to look back at the history for this member, this contribution is a highly creative (IMO) and evocative example of one of the points he's been trying to make.

When I first saw the thread title, I immediately thought about Pirsig's 'Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance' (which I highly recommend for anyone who hasn't read it).

Different strokes, guys. I thought it was entertaining and creative. Flag from me.


As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Mar, 3 2013 @ 05:12 PM
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I loved it. It's not often you hear philosophical matters discussed in song. You remind me of Zappa for some reason. Well done.

As for time travel? I always wonder how people could hope to travel to a place (or time) that doesn't exist. Even 'now' as a unit, a state or an idea, like all ideas, is entirely fleeting. Maybe we should learn to travel there before we attempt to travel anywhere else.



posted on Mar, 3 2013 @ 05:35 PM
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Originally posted by arpgme
reply to post by NorEaster
 


If parallel universes/realities exist then we it is still possible for time travel to occur. To be honest after watching your video and reading what you typed I only have the slightest clue of what you're talking about.


If time travel was possible would we not see time travellers..



posted on Mar, 3 2013 @ 06:41 PM
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Originally posted by yeahright
The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

I think you sort of have to be at least familiar with the work that's preceded this to appreciate it. Out of context, it can seem a bit disjointed. But if you are motivated enough to look back at the history for this member, this contribution is a highly creative (IMO) and evocative example of one of the points he's been trying to make.

When I first saw the thread title, I immediately thought about Pirsig's 'Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance' (which I highly recommend for anyone who hasn't read it).

Different strokes, guys. I thought it was entertaining and creative. Flag from me.


As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.


Thanks. I just like to play with mixing genres as I layer seemingly disparate points of perspective on the same issue within one specific statement, and I know that it's not appealing to everyone. That's okay. the kinds of people I'm reaching for will get it, and maybe even appreciate the effort to try and intrigue them. I care about those folks who will notice or even take the time to notice that there's more than the obvious going on in whatever it is that I've tossed together. They're "my people", and they matter to me.

Thank you for the positive review. These clips are a new hobby for me, and I can't wait to figure out how I'm going to structure the next one - based on the nature of context as it pertains to existential identity. I can't even imagine what it'll be yet, but I know that I'll have fun doing it.







posted on Mar, 3 2013 @ 06:56 PM
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Originally posted by LesMisanthrope
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I loved it. It's not often you hear philosophical matters discussed in song. You remind me of Zappa for some reason. Well done.


I've been a songwriter for 40+ years, so its just easier for me to do it this way. Still, it's a lot of fun, and I get to work with some of my old pals at times. They all think these little clips are a riot, and I'm tossing some together for a few of them and their newer cuts that they're shopping to recording artists. The video-Youtube showcase idea is really working for songwriters. Especially with some of them shopping those songs directly to product marketing firms.


As for time travel? I always wonder how people could hope to travel to a place (or time) that doesn't exist. Even 'now' as a unit, a state or an idea, like all ideas, is entirely fleeting. Maybe we should learn to travel there before we attempt to travel anywhere else.


The quantum of now is unit basis of the entire material realm, with the entirety of that realm reconfiguring from "now" to "now" in sync and completely oblivious to the fact that all that hyper-dynamicism is relentless and ongoing. Just visualizing the extraordinary breadth of the quantum instant as it stretches from one end of this reality confine to the other is enough to make you break a sweat. It's probably good that such an awareness is extremely difficult to maintain, even if it's achieved.



posted on Mar, 3 2013 @ 07:49 PM
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I get what your trying to get across, but if you don't mind I'd like to play with it just a bit. Whether you go with the idea that this universe is a hologram, or that we are made of quantum intangible stuff that somehow became tangible, we can't escape the fact that, more and more, science is telling us that this solid, physical existence isn't real. We're waves, no we're particles, no we're waves....

That said, I'd like to compare this existence to the dreams and thoughts that we conjure up. In your mind, please create a man in a black tuxedo and smoking a cigarette while standing in a white room. Remember his white skin, his dazzling smile, his neatly cut hair. Remember this man well enough to make him a memory for you.

Now, clear the man from your mind (think anything else: birds flying, a football game, anything).

Now, please call up the memory of the man in the black tuxedo smoking a cigarette in a white room. You didn't RE-create this man. What you did was you searched your mind for where this man resides in your memory. Now, please change his black tuxedo for a white one, and make the white room a black room.

My question is, did you go back in time to alter this man's appearance? When you conjured him up from your memory, were the chemicals in your brain the exact same chemicals used to create this memory in the first place? If they are the same chemicals then the only thing that changed is time. You went BACK to a memory and changed it.

Hope I explained this well enough, though I seriously doubt it. Even I got lost near the end, but maybe you got the gist of it.



posted on Mar, 3 2013 @ 08:15 PM
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Totally Modern Beat.
Loved it, and followed it well I think,
but will enjoy viewing again (and Maybe again),

a lot was showcased in this montage argument of a fixed permanent Now.
Enjoyable and thought provoking to say the least.
I think I even saw a few clips of my favorite Twilight Zone or One Step Beyond shows.

Wonderful.



posted on Mar, 4 2013 @ 07:20 AM
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Originally posted by jiggerj
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I get what your trying to get across, but if you don't mind I'd like to play with it just a bit. Whether you go with the idea that this universe is a hologram, or that we are made of quantum intangible stuff that somehow became tangible, we can't escape the fact that, more and more, science is telling us that this solid, physical existence isn't real. We're waves, no we're particles, no we're waves....

That said, I'd like to compare this existence to the dreams and thoughts that we conjure up. In your mind, please create a man in a black tuxedo and smoking a cigarette while standing in a white room. Remember his white skin, his dazzling smile, his neatly cut hair. Remember this man well enough to make him a memory for you.

Now, clear the man from your mind (think anything else: birds flying, a football game, anything).

Now, please call up the memory of the man in the black tuxedo smoking a cigarette in a white room. You didn't RE-create this man. What you did was you searched your mind for where this man resides in your memory. Now, please change his black tuxedo for a white one, and make the white room a black room.

My question is, did you go back in time to alter this man's appearance? When you conjured him up from your memory, were the chemicals in your brain the exact same chemicals used to create this memory in the first place? If they are the same chemicals then the only thing that changed is time. You went BACK to a memory and changed it.

Hope I explained this well enough, though I seriously doubt it. Even I got lost near the end, but maybe you got the gist of it.


I got the gist of it. What you did was generate a new image of this guy with the tux and cigarette, that will now exist alongside of your original imagine of a man with a tux and cigarette. These images, while contextually associated, are two different images. You never eliminate the original image from your memory cloud. All you did was create a new image to exist along with the original image. Bot exist now, and can be referenced in the future, whenever the subject of men, tuxedos, or cigarettes, or any combination of the three, pops into your thoughts.

Those ruminations happened, and can never NOT have happened. Those images were "generated" by your imagination, and exist within your memory cloud, as well as within Intellect bursts that will exist forever as informational holons within the larger, inclusive informational holon that is the YOU that you are creating with each Quantum of Now that passes to populate the entirety of your life span as a material manifestation of relentless and ongoing dynamic change.

Change moves in one direction, and all the seemingly anomalous experiment indications that anyone can pile into a Youtube video are not going to actually affect the way that change moves. A more plausible explanation for such "weirdness" is a flawed or biased interpretation of the data - since Occam's Razor seems to be exactly the sort of "go to" consideration when a single indication runs counter to 99.999999999999% of all other indications that have been gathering to date. Especially when the controversy has to do with something as elemental as the basic direction of change itself.

Seriously. What part of that statement comes across as irresponsible? Even a video clip of some theoretical physicist denying the direction of change as a forward trajectory is surrendering to that forward trajectory direction by recording the denial and making it digitally available to downloads and streaming. If causation, change Time is reversible, then simply loop the presentation and have it occur live everywhere to prove your point. It'd sure make the case a lot better than some scrawls on a blackboard, or sketchy interpretations of photons behaving anomalously within a closed mechanical system.



posted on Mar, 4 2013 @ 07:29 AM
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Originally posted by EarthCitizen23
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Totally Modern Beat.
Loved it, and followed it well I think,
but will enjoy viewing again (and Maybe again),

a lot was showcased in this montage argument of a fixed permanent Now.
Enjoyable and thought provoking to say the least.
I think I even saw a few clips of my favorite Twilight Zone or One Step Beyond shows.

Wonderful.



Man, I gotta tell you that digging through the mountains of Twilight Zone clips online for this project was days worth of the best time ever. That stuff was so insanely aggressive and terrified, and the Film Noir style of it was really stark and cool as hell. I really do think that the collective post-WWII paranoia had a really big impact on how over-dramatic that whole style of film was. Perry Mason (that old court room drama series) was great Film Noir too, and that entire genre really reflected the almost desperate, near hysteria of the 50's, going into the 60's. No wonder the younger generations coming up started to decide to reject everything around them after a decade of that craziness. What else could they do? Go completely nuts?

And once that change happened - the emergence of a viable and media-acknowledged counterculture - it couldn't go back to being nonexistent. The box was opened for good. Just like the video suggests. Nothing happens without something else happening to bring it about, and the Cold War craziness birthed the American counterculture movements that we still have today in their new and unique forms.

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posted on Mar, 4 2013 @ 07:55 AM
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Originally posted by purplemer

If parallel universes/realities exist then we it is still possible for time travel to occur. To be honest after watching your video and reading what you typed I only have the slightest clue of what you're talking about.


If time travel was possible would we not see time travellers..

Not if they are forbidden from being seen. It could be that they are only allowed to do their mission and it is forbidden for them to reveal themselves because they don't want to mess up the time line.




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