awakening

Here is a little back ground about this man who claimes to be enlightened that Ive taken from is own website. Also, below is a short clip of him explaining "awakening" or the state of being conscious. He is considered a guru and a teacher of the Hindu school of thought called advaita vendanta.he has many followers

About Stuart

Stuart is not unlike a benign border guard who joins the train as it passes from our familiarly programmed country into a country without agendas boundaries or rules; in short home.

He helps the passengers search their compartments for shadows that have tormented and impeded their journey for many a year and robbed them of their peace of mind. They mistook those shadows for cast iron reality. He looks past the baggage they carry, the sorrows and pains of separation, and delicately but expertly shines a high powered torch on all that is presented. Of course the shadows that seemed so real vanish in the beam of the spotlight.. This light is the presence of peace and love which gobbles up illusory mind-frames. In this stillness the world and the individual identity fades leaving behind our birthright; the child’s view which has been compared to The Kingdom of Heaven.

That said there is also a way in which his presence and light can sometimes be more diffuse, just a sitting together in silence without the beam of a spotlight or specific guidance or investigating just the pure beingness that comes through him, can work in a deep and mysterious way. Attending a satsang or a private session with Stuart is a surprisingly revealing and wonderful experience. Watching our state of mind being forensically examined and taken apart is an adventure and a relief.

Stuart posesses that rare skill of being able to compassionately and humourously lead a person past layers of self exclusivity,. In fact he leads us past the person altogether to the substratum of consciousness. This he accomplishes by utilizing a deep understanding of the human psyche and the ways of the reactive mind. Resting in stillness himself he gently guides his pupil through self enquiry till the Presence swallows any questions.


No matter how hard I try, I just dont get what he is saying. Not to be Judgemental , but does it seem like this man is a quack? Maybe a little cultish? or am I missing something?

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From my point of view.

Even if you become enlightened and awake you are still a different version of you than you would have been without the human experiance you have had on this planet in this life. The ego/mind is probably temporary and beneath is something more that is also changing slowly.

It seems this is about seeing thru conditioning and questioning everything maybe even having the courage to totally let go and just follow synchronicity and not care to much about whatever that happens and the moment of clarity.

Evolving to become a shinning one/blessed one is only a matter of time. Sooner or later it will happen and to some it happens more than once since some choose to fall again for different reasons.





For some soul being home is just another day in paradise.

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This is Mooji who will show you (via a young lady) where peace lies. He will show you your real self if you follow him through this video.
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I have been to a Mooji satsang.

I have also been to see Tony Parsons in London several times.
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What is awakening, nobody knows, for the process is different for everybody but the outcome is the same, mainly, yourself.

What's called "awakening" today is merely the man of sin coming into the temple of God, sitting down, and declaring HIMSELF to be God. And it's happening all around the world which tells us the nearness of the end of the age.

This is what i feel at the moment and i might be very wrong and i wish there was this great awekening but(in my own opinion) all it is is finding out how enslaved robots we have been before getting totally enslaved by destroing what's left of our hearts while being slowly showed in numerous forms the evil plans put upon us by possed elite scunms.Ilumminati this.. oh yeah that fits into their plan... because your supossed to know that ...they are not that stupid.... but you are loosing something in the process that they have allways wanted for you to loose first before we get into the borg era and that is your hope that leads to...bingo.. your heart.David icke got it right but how he is stiring it and also alot of his conclusions are both... wrong... in my opinion.

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One must move through to the new set of life, fighting for a free mind of oneself. A mind solely for himself, not controllable by others. This is solely what I experienced. I don't know if other have same issues here.

My situation was sometimes very complex which make me endure quite heavy suffering realising what situation I was in, but then I was shown these were mere illusions.

I ask myself howcome I saw my situation so complex, and if they were all illusions, howcome I suffered because of them. An illusion should hold no influence at all on a human being..


My life became much less complicated, but I kinda started figuring out mine was more dark than others, although........ Why does a women who is in love with someone start a relationship with somebody else?

Originally posted by Angle

Why does a women who is in love with someone start a relationship with somebody else?

Ive been asking myself this same question for 4 months.

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Originally posted by WhoKnows100
What's called "awakening" today is merely the man of sin coming into the temple of God, sitting down, and declaring HIMSELF to be God. And it's happening all around the world which tells us the nearness of the end of the age.

Not so, the attachments of the self/ego are beginning to loosen so THAT we, both individually and collectively are able to come into the temple of God where there's a communal table awaiting us by which we can enjoy one another's company and that of God among us, and who is the head of the table itself although invisible.

Spirit and reason are now moving and we're beginning to discover that we are not a thing but a spiritual process also moving, and as this movement continues, at some point the collective and hardened egoic structure of the human being is going to break apart and crack up, and then we will laugh together and we will no longer believe in God as some external being, but we will come to KNOW God, not as the self, but as the Reality, the truth and the real life.

More and more people are showing up who've discovered this to lead the way by teaching us also to make the same discovery, and we ourselves will also one day teach others as we experience Satsang or do the Pradhana (the practice).

We are like a developing mystical body and Bride of the spirit, and a household that God is moving into, so that the day will come when God will come to live within and among us and we will be his people and he will be our God both within and without, innerent and trasncendant, God known and God realized through and through. It's an inevitability, and a prophecy now slowly being realized from the very last page of the Bible. It's a time of celebration and rejoicing, not condemnation nor paranoia but of unconditionally loving acceptance as the very love of Jesus Christ made known in the world once again and at long last.

That is is equally disturbing to both atheist and conventional "believer" alike, is imho, absolutely hilarious!

Best Regards,

NAM

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yeah, but don't suffer from it

Originally posted by Angle
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yeah, but don't suffer from it

How can one not suffer from being a victim of deceit ?

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Don't ask me, I'm not a woman. They understand these kind of things..

My two cents about Stuart from that video the op posted, is that he has some kind of mental capacity relative to staying consciously mindful, and does so in a kind of penetrating way. He probably uses this capacity and his ability to talk about non-dual teachings to help others with their own limiting presumptions. But given he seems very one-pointed in the head, he does not appear to me to be enlightened.

It's fine that he uses such teachings to help people with their emotional issues, but to think that people can be fully awakened with seemingly just some mental insight is nonsense. We can all tacitly feel that no matter what conditions arise, we are simply the witness of them. There are thousands of people these days who get a taste of this insight and who are now equating themselves with the great spiritual realizers of all time - as though such a moment of insight is whole bodily awakening to Reality Itself! It is self-deluded and misleading for the serious aspirant to think that heaven can be taken by storm like this popular movement of talking schools of non-duality are promising. This is exactly why these high non-dual teachings were kept secret for centuries. Only the most serious advanced practitioners were given them because of what people do with them - e.g., revise them to fit their own egoic needs.

Enlightenment is clearly beyond the mind, beyond the talk about it, beyond mentally understanding that you are already consciousness and on this mental basis, presuming you are awake. Ultimately this is true, but it is not realized by just some mental understanding and doing whatever you can to stay "mindful".

In other words, I don't really feel his heart nor yogic energies in the body-mind that are granted by Reality invading it with its own Equanimity and Love-Bliss Light. I mostly only sense his mind, and so he seems more of the "talking school" variety of so-called gurus. Once again, just my opinion.

Ive always felt that it is impossible to be enlightened. The only thing that is enlightened is this guys bank account. I guess he has to make a living. Lol

He's really unusual man, with intense eyes, but what he said described it. That pause he's talking about is the veil lifting, inflood of memories, or just knowing you know everyone, suddenly more of yourself.

And empty your mind, be water my friend.

Be Water My Friend! - Bruce Lee Remix | #eTHErSEC

Putting this on an mp3 player and falling asleep to it is useful.

Also this:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

When you wake up from sleep, the neurolizer is the sun or light. This was a good write up from a friend.

Satsang with Stuart Schwartz- 'Something Very Radical'

This is something I see, allowing joy, faith and flowing good. It brings more opportunities, more abundance, to flow to others. Problem solving and helping isn't a vacuum.

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Originally posted by Theophorus
Ive always felt that it is impossible to be enlightened. The only thing that is enlightened is this guys bank account. I guess he has to make a living. Lol

Semantic problem as always. What does 'enlightenment' means for you?

My understanding it that this creation is a creation of thought(s), I would be careful of what kind of thoughts you muse with.

Thinking that is impossible to be enlightened is self-sabotaging yourself.

If babies thought that walking would be impossible, we might probably still be crawling ;-)

Awakening is not much more than maturing. When a person gets older they may look back and compare their memories to what is going on. Looking with the eyes of a child, shunning the conditioning that they were given.

So at that point it is imperitive that you retire so you do not open the eyes of the young. This new found awareness that you have believed so many deceptions throughout your life is uncanny. You start seeing the truth. You start looking for the truth. The truth is that none of this is really real, we are living in a few people's reality, doing things that they want us to do.

We ignored the hippies in the sixties who saw this at a young age. We chuckled at those who do not believe that all this is necessary when we are middle aged. We bought things we didn't need because we felt they were necessary to live in the new age. We look at others living simply and call them lazy when in fact they are doing better than us. If you want to deceive others, you can get rich but the money just returns to the system. We were deceived.

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Do you believe that 'awakening' can happen without even knowing the word 'awakening' or 'enlightenment'? (That it can happen and not even know what had happened?)
In other words without seeking it.

Originally posted by Itisnowagain
Do you believe that 'awakening' can happen without even knowing the word 'awakening' or 'enlightenment'? (That it can happen and not even know what had happened?)
In other words without seeking it.

Well, knowing the word awakening would obviously not be necessary given that it is just a word. Plus, it is one thing to grasp mentally the concepts of non-duality and no-seeking. It is quite another matter to actually realize non-duality and non-seeking. The ego is very wily - it creates all this seeming duality (separation) and then is always seeking to escape its inherent suffering (created by this gesture of separation) via union with endless objects, others, etc.!

The ego is always searching for union and doesn't recognize that unity is already the case in Reality. This whole egoic activity is done solely for its (the ego's) own apparent self-perpetuation in each and every moment because in reality the ego is an illusion - i.e., ego is simply this process we currently are doing, it is not an actual entity. When we stop doing this activity in any given moment, the ego is transcended in that moment.

Egoic activity is an ever-replicating pattern that has great force - the force of seemingly endless lifetimes behind it, and pretty much everyone in the world believing in their own point-of-view making egos - and so there is very little support altogether to live an ego-transcending life going forward.

As egos we are already seeking. No amount of thinking is going to stop this, nor is any amount of trying to stop thinking.

And, finally, getting to your question, no, no one is going to magically wake up to the actual Reality we arise in, without profound whole bodily understanding of their egoity and absolute surrender to Reality Itself. How to do this? How to stop all seeking? You can't do it inwardly or outwardly - that would be like picking yourself up by your own bootstraps. However, Reality does seemingly intervene for serious aspirants, and how that works out is not necessarily what we might expect.