Oasisjacks history lesson for the present.

Hundreds of years ago we Americans found ourselves in the same position of today. We were overtaxed ignored by our government struggling to survive and at the mercy of government backed monopolies. America was in peril of becoming a country of slaves working themselves to death just to get by. Room for advancement, education and earning a fair and livable wage was kept to a select elite class and guarded with zealously. Workers who thought that they would just quit and start their own business were crushed by the reality of duties and taxes on everything imaginable. Freedoms were being stripped of local governments and personal freedoms were stripped just as quickly.

With many of the citizenry feeling as though they had no voice in the government and that many of the new taxes and laws left them unable to survive unrest began to brew. Before long an armed confrontation caused a great loss of life for the civilians but it showed to the real degree that the unrest had infiltrated everyday life of the citizenry as much as 1/3 the population. That is not to say that the other 2/3 of people were happy, another 1/3 of people were neutral and 1/3 supportive of the government.

Government involvement of propping up one particular company/Industry spurred one of the biggest and most remembered events of American history. By forcing American taxpayers to pay higher duties and taxes a once staple crop was quickly too expensive for many Americans to own. The government began raising revenue it had lost during a long war by taxing everyday items such as sugar or any “Luxury item” it deemed as not necessary for everyday life.

After these events had unfolded the government tried to limit the citizenry’s access to fire arms first through depriving them of gunpowder and when the local governments stood firm in the belief these items were necessary for people’s survival and ordered the law null using its own militia. The government ordered full warrantless searches and seizure for any and all firearms regardless of local government’s laws or permission. This was done under the guise of safety to stop another massacre from occurring as the military would not be provoked in to firing if citizens were unarmed. This however was really a precursor to make a military occupation possible.

Freedom to assemble had been severely curtailed the populous could not have more than one town meeting in a year and publicly assembling was pretty much out of the question. The government

This ladies and gents was the American revolutionary war. The events listed above happened from 1760-1775 15 years it took our forefathers to assemble come together and decide to revolt against an unfair and tyrannical government. The revolution did not happen overnight and with only 1/3 approval from the people it was not hugely popular. The events that caused this: The stamp act, Townshend Acts, The Boston massacre, The Boston tea party, The powder alarm.
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Now lets insert what our government is doing to see if we have the same recipe

With many of the citizenry feeling as though they had no voice in the government and that many of the new taxes and laws left them unable to survive unrest began to brew. Before long an armed confrontation caused a great loss of life for the civilians but it showed to the real degree that the unrest had infiltrated everyday life of the citizenry as much as 1/3 the population. That is not to say that the other 2/3 of people were happy another 1/3 of people were neutral and 1/3 supportive of the government.

_javascript:icon('')Where we have no say unless we are far left or far right and our taxes have increased and our incomes decreased our survival is almost impossible and becoming more so every day. Public confrontation is brewing and it will have the same results as the Boston massacre. And just as then 1/3 of people are very unhappy. _javascript:icon('')

Government involvement of propping up one particular company/Industry spurred one of the biggest and most remembered events of American history. By forcing American taxpayers to pay higher duties and taxes a once staple crop was quickly too expensive for many Americans to own. The government began raising revenue it had lost during a long war by taxing everyday items such as sugar or any “Luxury item” it deemed as not necessary for everyday life.

_javascript:icon('')Government has propped up big banking through our tax dollars and even protects them from running bad business models that hurt American businesses’. They tax luxury items now and are enlarging the luxury taxable item list daily soon soda, coffee anything other than what’s needed to survive will have a luxury tax added to it. Don’t believe me its already happened with tobacco and being tested with fast food._javascript:icon('')

After these events had unfolded the government tried to limit the citizenry’s access to fire arms first through depriving them of gunpowder and when the local governments stood firm in the belief these items were necessary for people’s survival and ordered the law null using its own militia. The government ordered full warrantless searches and seizure for any and all firearms regardless of local government’s laws or permission. This was done under the guise of safety to stop another massacre from occurring as the military would not be provoked in to firing if citizens were unarmed. This however was really a precursor to make a military occupation possible.

_javascript:icon('')This is happening now they are hoping that they can pull this off before a massacre happens. If you believe otherwise may I point out to you that your local law enforcement agencies have in the past ten years became a whole lot more than militarized they are a standing government militia with apcs and drones. Never seen a apc pull over a guy for speeding have you. the Local governments that are defying these proposed laws are doing little more than saber rattling as they are hooked on the federal monies being fed to them to keep them complacent it would be nearly impossible for them to defy these proposed laws if federal monies are to be held ransom if they do not comply ._javascript:icon('')

Freedom to assemble had been severely curtailed the populous could not have more than one town meeting in a year and publicly assembling was pretty much out of the question. The government was taking complete and total control over the populous through legislature and military force.


_javascript:icon('')This has already been implemented, Occupy Wall Street was a fine example of this whether you support or despise the movement, it was a watershed moment as legislation aimed at curtailing the right to protest was struck and passed after a media campaign of propaganda displayed them as free loading moochers blaming the rich for their own laziness. That was not the idea or motivation of their movement but rather the perfect excuse to curtail the right to assemble peacefully. We also have the patriot act, NDAA as well as a plethora of other legislation in the pipes to further criminalize any speaking out or gathering as a criminal act. _javascript:icon('')

History is repeating its self once again the choice is ours whether to continue to follow the p

History is repeating its self once again the choice is ours whether to continue to follow the path our ancestors followed or to divert and let the world see what would of become under English rule. What we can gleam from other countries that continued under that sort of rule is life is horrible and most everybody except the elite will live meager destitute lives serving the wealthy with almost no chance of climbing to the top.
One could argue but that was America versus Britton however Americans were British then. Servants of king George and at the behest of the British empire to be used for her profit regardless of the detriment to their lives. Our forefathers filled grievances and tried the political route first but upon that failing they chose to stand and fight not because it was easy but because it was the only chance they had to live free and choose their own destiny.

The question for us is how will we be remembered by our great grand children when we were tested, as cowards allowing our freedoms to bet stripped under the cover of legislation or as unwilling heros taking the mantel of self liberty and defying those who claim to rule us.

reply to post by oasisjack


It seems that the history in your post is repeating itself within your post as well.

Interesting thoughts.

reply to post by sligtlyskeptical


yes easier to show how these events are repeating though slightly different. unfortunately I had planned on using the text color function to differentiate past present however it was not working for me atm.

There is a big difference you left out.

In the 18th century is was a foreign government doing it to us.

Today its our government.

In the 18th century we had no way to change the laws or the government but today we do. Until that process is denied to us there is no reason to go to the extreme.

Heck, if you can't even get the nation to get together to vote in decent politicians, or to even agree what that is, how are you going to get them to revolt?

Simply different eras and not similar to each other whatsoever.

reply to post by Hopechest


I certainly disagree. We cannot vote in any decent politicians as their are none all have donors and owners that hold their ears us in the center hold no sway . Before we became independent we were all English there was no distinction colonist or not you served the crown. though the times are different the recipe is there as I said no two cakes are the same but they follow the same basic recipe.

reply to post by oasisjack


The original colonies were governed by corporations, and the revolution was against corporations as much as it was against the crown.

We have allowed our country to be re-taken by the corporations.

We need to put the laws that restrict corporate activity back in place.

reply to post by poet1b


yes that is true hence why the English propping up the failing east india trading company led to the boston tea party.

The corporations were run by British nobles and for the profit of the British empires. Same is occurring now hallburton, GE etc etc... elite American owned and operated government enforced monopolies

reply to post by Hopechest

Heck, if you can't even get the nation to get together to vote in decent politicians, or to even agree what that is, how are you going to get them to revolt?

Quite simple, really.

Have the banks steal peoples homes. (happening now)

Make people property tax so outrageous that they can no longer afford to live on the property that they already own! (happening now)

Allow corporations to move overseas and allow them to make record profits and not pay taxes, thus jobs leave America and go overseas. (happening now)

Outsource our military to do the bidding of global banks and corporations, instead of using them for the "protection" of the United States. (happening now)

Prevent people from eating and growing their own "healthy" food so that they are forced to buy mass produced sanitized corporate garbage. (happening now)

I can get into many more examples if you wish, but the signs are most certainly there that we have a corrupt corporate run government.

As far as voting goes, the illusion of choice is fastly disappearing as people are realizing that it seems to be only a select "class" that is deemed appropriate to qualify as a candidate for us to choose from. (ie only the wealthy can afford to be elected)

Where does that leave us????

reply to post by seeker1963


seeker knows the revolutionary war out of his list only one thing was not happening just prior to the war.