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Another one! Beyonce' admits to being demon possessed.

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posted on Mar, 1 2013 @ 10:54 AM
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As I said from the beginning, this thread is intended as information for those who already believe in it. No one dragged you naysayers here. You came of your own volition and your desire to fight and rebel against the truth.



posted on Mar, 1 2013 @ 10:56 AM
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Originally posted by LazarusTsiyr

Originally posted by FlySolo


There are no absolutes. At all.


And that's where you are wrong. I can disprove that in 5 seconds. The Bible says that Jesus is the only way to the Most High. That's an absolute. Therefore there are absolutes.

And you cannot say my truth is true and your truth is true if my truth says that your truth is false. Relativism fails every time.



No, you are confused. None of which you just said is an absolute no matter how much you think it is in your head. Religion is a "faith. "The Bible says that Jesus is the only way to the Most High" Is merely a claim and or belief. NOT ABSOLUTE TRUTH.

There is no proof or absolute truth of either because they are "beliefs."

AGAIN, in case it didn't get through the first time, everything you're speaking of is all "beliefs", NOT absolute facts or truths no matter how much you really want or claim them to be.

Just because you say it is doesn't make it absolute truth.

Yeah, people say a lot of things. Where's your proof. That's a rhetorical question. Because you don't and won't have any.
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And I won't be posting/replying to any of your threads in the future. I'll just let you verbally hang yourself all on your own...
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posted on Mar, 1 2013 @ 10:59 AM
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Frankly, Beyounce or whatever her name is doesn't matter anymore to me than any actor, any musician or a long list of other types who the media seems consumed with and focused on using to keep the Peasants distracted with; these people are like junk food, while it is the meat and vegetables that actually sustain and perpetuate life; this parallel...this metaphor works because it also points to why there are so many fat and diabetic people amongst the current generations. No, I don't give more than a glance to Beyounce as there are certainly better and more significant artists amongst us who played and still play positive roles in the advancement of humanity but, that is not the aspect of this topic I am wanting to spend time on, it is this subject of Demon Possession.

We could approach the subject of "Demons and Demon Possession" from a purely religious perspective, in which case, the Jewish, Christian and Muslim religions all say that the "Demons" are the "Spirits Of The Fallen Nephilim", e.g. Genesis 6:1–4

6 When human beings began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of humans were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. 3 Then the Lord said, “My Spirit will not contend with[a] humans forever, for they are mortal; their days will be a hundred and twenty years.” 4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.

e.g. The Torah

The Nephilim are mentioned twice in the Torah (Genesis 6, Numbers 13). "Nephilim" means "the fallen ones." They were people of giant stature. It is not clear how large they were, but were large enough to scare other people. The Targum Yerushalmi, which is a Midrash, explains that they were Angels who descended to the Earth. According to this they were called fallen ones because they fell from their heavenly stature. The Ramban explains otherwise, that they were the other children of Adam. Because Adam, the First Man, was the handiwork of G-d, his children were of greater physical stature than their descendants. Because these people were so close to the Creator, they knew that they had no grandfather, they should have been spiritually elevated. Because they didn't live up to their potential they were considered "fallen ones."


I want to point out here that we have for many years been finding the skeletons and bones of the Nephilim, although there has been serious efforts to repress and cast off this physical evidence by the mainstream who have for various reasons which to lead humanity down the false road of Darwinism.





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posted on Mar, 1 2013 @ 11:00 AM
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It only seems illogical because you aren't getting it. I understand it perfectly and millions of others know exactly what I'm talking about. Talk about cornering yourself into a dogmatic pigeonhole. It's in your face but you still can't see it. It's ok brother, don't get defensive about it, just think about it.

Namaste.
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posted on Mar, 1 2013 @ 11:00 AM
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And he actually isnt the only music artist that has spoken about the rain man.....check out this link.
spiritspeakstruths.blogspot.com...



posted on Mar, 1 2013 @ 11:05 AM
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Demons like to be on the 'spotlight'. Yes, they like 'fame', rofl. Just stop and think about it. Politicians, especially the ones in control of the world, are also under some sort of demonic influence. This is why they speak the right words on the right time. This is how they fool the masses because most demons are masters in rhetoric. They also know sciences, arts, languages, logic and many other subjects. In fact, any person who is in a position of power is more susceptible to being attacked or 'taken over' simply because a 'demon' is a spirit with no 'vessel', meaning it's a primitive un-bodied spirit looking for ways (vessels) to interact with this material form of reality (duality) to cause change. By this logic, you can now understand why a lot of police officers act the way they do.



posted on Mar, 1 2013 @ 11:06 AM
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No, there is absolute. I've illustrated absolutes. And religion is full of absolutes. Again, Muslims say that God has no Son. The Bible says He does. Both are absolutes and both are contradictory. Both cannot be true. So his statement of "All religion is right and wrong" is a contradiction on so many levels. Two opposing statements cannot both be true. Relativism fails.

And to say there is no absolute truth is to state an absolute truth so that's a contradiction.

Don't reply back. I really don't care. You don't need to tell me that you're not gonna reply back. Just don't reply back. It's simple. Why do you think you need to tell me you're not gonna respond? Why would you think I care? BTW those are rhetorical questions so you don't need to violate your proclamation of not responding.



posted on Mar, 1 2013 @ 11:08 AM
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posted on Mar, 1 2013 @ 11:10 AM
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No, I get it. I get what you are saying totally. It just makes no sense. It's contradictory and hypocritical. That's not my fault.

Peace be upon you.



posted on Mar, 1 2013 @ 11:12 AM
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Interesting, in that single ladies video, I believe Beyonce' is making reference to a one armed god with a metal hand, who is basically a god of war. Pre-islamic arabs knew him as Hubal, the norse knew him as Tyr, the Aztecs knew him as Huitzilopochtli, and the Celts knew him as Nuada.

Interesting thread about it here...

www.abovetopsecret.com...
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posted on Mar, 1 2013 @ 11:15 AM
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Originally posted by FlySolo
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Ugh, that's what I was afraid you were going to say. Everyone has the right to practice whichever religion they choose. But you can't force your opinion that your religion is the truth. This is the catch. If Christianity had its way, would it ban all religions? No. And why not if Christianity is the only truth?

Think about that...


Look the only thing going on between us is you said I can't know the truth. I disagreed. And showed where I believe truth is .All you have to do is disagree and let it go.
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posted on Mar, 1 2013 @ 11:20 AM
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posted on Mar, 1 2013 @ 11:22 AM
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How can I read a painting? That could be a representation of any book! And you say all THEE truth is in there? Really? Scary, man! edit on 3/1/2013 by eatbliss because: i


Oh I don't think it's all that scary now. Man or women up ! Besides the two towers of words on each page are kind of a deadgive away.
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posted on Mar, 1 2013 @ 11:23 AM
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What is Beyonce doing that is inherently evil or satanic? I don't understand. What shes talking about is stage persona. David Bowie's alter ego is Ziggy Stardust. It's a character. The Beatles have one too. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band. It's arguable that every musician onstage is an exaggerated alter ego of themselves. In my opinion she's really not even worth the speculation haha. Boring music, boring stage persona. You'd think if Satan wanted to capture our hearts and ears he would inhabit someone a with a little more substance. Beyonce and Nicki Minaj don't exactly speak to me. The devil needs a wider demographic.



posted on Mar, 1 2013 @ 11:25 AM
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posted on Mar, 1 2013 @ 11:25 AM
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problem is, you can't claim 'faith' as a source of absolute truth. Faith is not fact, therefore it cannot be used for proof.

You believe in what the bible says, which is fine by me. Problem I have with it, is books have been removed. The same ones who removed books to secure an agenda, had it translated for the same agenda. With those facts in mind, I find myself wary of any conclusions based on a mistranslated incomplete piece of work, regardless of its religious context in general.

I'm not even disagreeing that there is an apparent illuminati presence in the industry, but I also don't claim whether I believe it is all an act because it is the 'thing' or subliminal efforts at control.



I do find some fault in the assumption that just because a person didn't take an acting class in high school, that a multi-millionaire family can't afford to take some private lessons, or assume they don't have internet to learn method acting, or are stupid enough not to consider a persona; especially considering the industry she comes from is known for doing just that ... her husband wasn't Jay-Z when born, it was a persona. It isn't just rap industry that creates personas, look at metallica, they turned country at one point, under a different name. Was the heavy metal the persona? the country? both? We see Ozzy isn't a bat head eating demon irl.

Add to that, Beyonce has acted before; several times.

Asking people to prove the opposition of something you can't prove yourself is a bit much, isn't it?

You can't prove she is possessed, just as much as someone can't prove she isn't. Both sides would lie in belief ... given that the person even believes someone can be possessed in the first place, which for everyone, isn't a given.


I respect your opinion and views, and you have every right to them. I gave a look at this superbowl performance, even a video claiming the symbolism, though not yours in particular, honestly. I tried to take first an unbiased look, then watch a biased viewpoint.

The symbolism I saw most obvious, when pointed out, would be what looked like the classical vision of hands in fire, and the use of the 'pyramid' hand symbol, including those in the 'pit of fire' ...

Most of the stuff, as I see it, could be basically artistry and use of technology to make a flashy show that has far too high of a budget and trying to be eye candy in an event I could care a bit less about, but I'd have to care enough to not care at all, and I can't be bothered to think enough about it ... I didn't even realize the superbowl happened, it just isn't part of my life, nor is cable television.

I just find these topics intriguing, especially when done well; check out the symbolic stuff with Michael Jackson; I found that quite interesting, even if my stance is neutral.


Is beyonce possessed? Hell if I know. The meme pictures of her that I saw floating around a while ago made her look more derpy than possessed ... so possessed by the derpy demon?

If you believe in illuminati and symbolism, there are a ton of interesting things all over the internet showing possible stuff, I think the 2000 new years had more convincing stuff than this thread thus far, besides the girl you said has a gay boy inside her that won't get out (euphemism jokes aside); which is a much more convincing example than this one.

Seems a lot of performers need to create personas to give themselves the confidence; it is not easy to stand in front of hundreds, thousands, millions of people and perform. I think they could, instead of creating a false sense of self, find it within themselves, and give credit to their true self, to overcome the stressful burdens ... giving them more pride in self. I think the same could be said for actors ... I think creating 'separate personalities' is a crutch; it is all you, not some other you. Method acting. Become the character, but know thyself first and foremost.



Some people feel 'possessed' as a way to describe their feelings ... including chemical changes in the brain. My wife, when she took estrogen birth control felt like a 'different person', I can get a well of emotion and feel like my decision rationality has changed, some would describe that as being a 'different person' under the effects of their own natural biological responses. Neither of us were possessed, but say a couple hundred years ago, or to those with a bit more mythical thought process, might consider themselves possessed.


Just to reiterate on the religious aspect, there are no absolutes in it. It is real, provable, factual. Religion is belief, mythos, and in no way provable, therefore not absolute or fact, nor can be considered a 'truth'. Similar to 'theories' in science. Big bang 'theory' based on faith of current evidence, Earth existing is truth, factual, absolute, provable.



posted on Mar, 1 2013 @ 11:26 AM
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I don't pick and choose anything. I'm a sinful human being who is not perfect. But it's funny how when your hypocrisy gets called out you once again go on the offensive and try to insult me and my faith.

Look, you are derailing this thread (on purpose I believe) and I refuse to get any more T&C violations because of you. So unless you stay on topic then this is my last response to you.



posted on Mar, 1 2013 @ 11:27 AM
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She is spreading Satanic and Illuminati symbolism. That's what she's doing. She never said it was a stage persona and I don't remember the Beatles describing a presence entering them. Furthermore there are pics of the Beatles doing Occult symbolism like the all-seeing eye and the Triple Six hand gesture.



posted on Mar, 1 2013 @ 11:29 AM
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That's not what I did. I illustrated an absolute truth. Jesus saying that He is the only way to the Father is an absolute.

FlySolo saying that there are no absolute truths is an absolute truth.

Want more absolutes? The Earth revolves around the sun. Absolute truth. The speed of light is 299,792,458 miles per second. Absolute truth.

Absolute truth does exist.

Furthermore it wasn't just about absolute truths. It was about FlySolo proclaiming that all truths are true when that is impossible because these different religions and their beliefs contradict each other. One cannot say God has no Son and another say God has a Son and both be correct.



posted on Mar, 1 2013 @ 11:34 AM
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Indeed.

I believe this is the real deal. Especially when Muslims preform this, they dont play around with Islam and mock it.



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