Agenda 21 Documentary (Video, be quick)

Originally posted by Neocrusader
reply to post by TDawgRex

 

What makes you think capitalism and our so called 'democracy' has killed any less
Every day on this site we all comment and read about the death and destruction facilitated by the western govs.
How many of them are communist regimes ?

I never said that Capitalism is better in any of my posts. But I will do so now.

I don't know of one Government that has its hands clean though. Not one.

And that is how it will always be, even if Aliens invade. We're only human after all. It's our nature.

reply to post by 1/2 Nephilim


IMO Communism sounds good in theory, but due to human nature your are going to get what we are headed towards "Corpomunism".

Corpomunism : A totalitarian form of gov't controlled by the lobbying industry. With this form of gov't the lobbyist not only control the consumers but they also control the market as well. Can't get any better than this as long as you are on top.

The RNC (not the individuals) are currently in charge of taking away your individual freedoms: Patriot act, NDA, Sope,Pipa,etc.

While the DNC (not the individuals) are in charge of making you dependent on the gov't:

Its all about the little green paper and control , that is why we will never see a true capitalist society or communist society.

reply to post by interupt42


Spot on in my opinion.

Truthfully, I don't think any theory holds water when it comes to Government. There are just to many independent variables at play.

reply to post by TDawgRex


First you ask me

Originally posted by TDawgRex

Are you blind to history?

Then you say

Originally posted by TDawgRex
Please point out to me where religion played a part in WW1, WW2, Korea, Grenada, Panama, Desert Storm/Shield, OIF & OEF etc, etc. About the only places nowadays where religion plays a part in warfare is the Middle East and Africa. I guess I can also throw in Thailand, Indonesia as well.

I already said!

The video is claiming "communism & socialism have killed more people in the 20th century than anything ever in human history combined". Read between the lines..

Throughout human history up until recent history wars were fought with swords. Technology has made a big difference, and another thing you need to take into consideration is per capita.

I thought it wouldn't even be worth saying that those "sword fights" were predominantly religious wars!

I'm not going to sit here and cite every religious war thats ever been fought in history while comparing it to the per capita of where the wars were fought, just not going to do it..

Easier to ask you, Are you blind to history? or is that a willfully blind thing?

Willfully is the trend so thats my guess..

reply to post by 1/2 Nephilim


I was just keeping my comment in regards to the 20th Century (and beyond). This is what the video was discussing in part.

I know that religious wars have been fought prior to that. It was a means to foment fervor for both sides. The same can be said about ideology these days.

War has and always will be about resources. One side, wants the others. It's as simple as that.

I will say that I wasn't thrilled with all the Judeo-Christian talk though as that took the film off point in my opinion. It just wasn't needed.

reply to post by interupt42

IMO Communism sounds good in theory, but due to human nature your are going to get what we are headed towards "Corpomunism".

Corpomunism : A totalitarian form of gov't controlled by the lobbying industry. With this form of gov't the lobbyist not only control the consumers but they also control the market as well. Can't get any better than this as long as you are on top.

The RNC (not the individuals) are currently in charge of taking away your individual freedoms: Patriot act, NDA, Sope,Pipa,etc.

While the DNC (not the individuals) are in charge of making you dependent on the gov't:

Its all about the little green paper and control , that is why we will never see a true capitalist society or communist society.

Now thats a good post! I gave it a star.

Corpomunism is new to me! TY! I learned something here.

What a neat definition, this is exactly where the US is heading.. Obamacare would be a prime example of how its not quite a socialist thing, fits right into the definition of corpomunism though..

Down to brass tax, I feel that if a global NWO were founded on the backbone of this corpomunism idea it simply would not work for long. We would see real communism as the end result. These shadow bankers and oil profiteers pulling the strings.. they will get outed eventually.

The base currency of the world, those debt representative dollars will die out sooner than we think. I mean thats the plan, collapse the dollar, make everyone poor and subservient. It'll never work

This is my hope of the end result, the little optimism I have left in the future of the world, in 20 seconds.

Edit: Warning, one bad word at the end of the clip. If cussing offends you don't watch it.

Originally posted by 1/2 Nephilim
reply to post by interupt42

 

IMO Communism sounds good in theory, but due to human nature your are going to get what we are headed towards "Corpomunism".

Corpomunism : A totalitarian form of gov't controlled by the lobbying industry. With this form of gov't the lobbyist not only control the consumers but they also control the market as well. Can't get any better than this as long as you are on top.

The RNC (not the individuals) are currently in charge of taking away your individual freedoms: Patriot act, NDA, Sope,Pipa,etc.

While the DNC (not the individuals) are in charge of making you dependent on the gov't:

Its all about the little green paper and control , that is why we will never see a true capitalist society or communist society.

Down to brass tax, I feel that if a global NWO were founded on the backbone of this corpomunism idea it simply would not work for long. We would see real communism as the end result. These shadow bankers and oil profiteers pulling the strings.. they will get outed eventually.

Not likely, once we are a full blown corpomunist society they will control your thoughts as well (news, entertainment, education, health, shelter, food, water, etc) and they patiently utilize Machiavellian tactics to ensure they are not over thrown.

After all by the time we have a full blown corpomunist society, we would have also proved that the majority of humans lack the ability to be individual critical thinkers or ineffective leaders .

In addition , if anything would happen I think it would be the opposite and we would end up in a true capitalist society. If a successful revolution would occur, I think the people would want nothing to do with any form of big gov't after being suppressed by a corpomunist society .

Originally posted by interupt42
Not likely, once we are a full blown corpomunist society they will control your thoughts as well (news, entertainment, education, health, shelter, food, water, etc) and they patiently utilize Machiavellian tactics to ensure they are not over thrown.

After all by the time we have a full blown corpomunist society, we would have also proved that the majority of humans lack the ability to be individual critical thinkers or ineffective leaders .

In addition , if anything would happen I think it would be the opposite and we would end up in a true capitalist society. If a successful revolution would occur, I think the people would want nothing to do with any form of big gov't after being suppressed by a corpomunist society .

Good points again..

So when the depopulation starts occuring, aren't they targeting the people who "lack the ability to be individual critical thinkers or ineffective leaders". Or will it be the opposite? Do they just want a world with .01% intellectual high class and the other 99.99% remaining to subservient dummies?

I am of this thinking that.. and I know it sounds crazy, but I think the top PTB don't want an ignorant slave race of button pushers? I think they wanna keep the ones with potential around so long as they aren't a threat. Were talking about the people who rule the world, the people who inherited unlimited power.. they're still just people?

Deep down they know they're no better than anyone else..

Originally posted by 1/2 Nephilim

Originally posted by interupt42
Not likely, once we are a full blown corpomunist society they will control your thoughts as well (news, entertainment, education, health, shelter, food, water, etc) and they patiently utilize Machiavellian tactics to ensure they are not over thrown.

After all by the time we have a full blown corpomunist society, we would have also proved that the majority of humans lack the ability to be individual critical thinkers or ineffective leaders .

In addition , if anything would happen I think it would be the opposite and we would end up in a true capitalist society. If a successful revolution would occur, I think the people would want nothing to do with any form of big gov't after being suppressed by a corpomunist society .

Good points again..

So when the depopulation starts occuring, aren't they targeting the people who "lack the ability to be individual critical thinkers or ineffective leaders". Or will it be the opposite? Do they just want a world with .01% intellectual high class and the other 99.99% remaining to subservient dummies?

I don't think they are targeting anyone group of people specifically nor is there an organized group effort at the top to take over the world. IMO you have some very competitive , greedy,selfish and powerful people at very top playing a high stakes game with great consequences to humanity.

IMO their motive is NOT to make us subservient dummies or even rule the world as a ruling class. I think their motives is being driven by their own INDIVIDUAL greed, competition,selfishness and desire for power. To such an extent that they don't see things clearly in the long term nor the consequences they are impacting on humanity as a result. In a way , its a high stake game of "Keeping up with the Joneses" that impacts us all. After all, Billionaires are not above envy.

The people turning into subservient dummies is a consequence but not a purpose for them.

Originally posted by 1/2 Nephilim
Deep down they know they're no better than anyone else..

I don't think they really concern themselves with that nor humanity as a whole.

I have had the opportunity to candidly talk and work with some highly monetary successful individuals who truly believe in survival of the fittest. Business is all about the upper hand and survival of the fittest. Once you make it to a certain position they think they are entitled to a higher form of respect because that is all they value. Their value system is based on how much power you have and what you got.

I think they get a kick on seeing how far they can take things and how sly they can be about getting the upper hand.

Thanks for all the replies, I watched it all and I don't know what to make of it.
I did the thread about "Has the USA been infiltrated" www.abovetopsecret.com...

Then I watched this, and it seems yes!
A lot to take in.
Hope more debate can carry on over this.
I suspect this video will get big and do more rounds.

Peace to all

Shauny

It is all true, but no ones going to stop it, because they are afraid to stand for god and whats right

Originally posted by SPECULUM
It is all true, but no ones going to stop it, because they are afraid to stand for god and whats right

Which God and why should anyone stand for anything including an entity that is not factually known to exist?

Maybe the problem is people trying to convince others to believe in an entity that is not known to factually exist over facts that could help address the real problem.

I don't recall the world being a better place during the booming years for religion. In fact it was more ruthless unless of-course you believed in the right God.

The facts are that we humans have our priorities and our goals out of whack and we are solely to blame for all that is wrong on the world. Don't look for a mystical creature to blame nor a mystical creature to save us.

You want to fix the problem than look at the real and tangible problem that is in front of you. You don't need religion to know what is right or wrong nor do you need religion to have a valid morality counter.

Note please don't take my post as I'm questioning your faith or attacking you personally, but I think religion is actually part of the problem in the world. It makes us fear others who have different believe systems. Religion along with race wars, and political party line battles between the two major parties allows the upper top to rule the world while we fight among each other.