ATS has been infiltrated compleatly....please read

Originally posted by mykingdomforthetruth
criminals use windows because they are dumb

terrorists use linux

Well that adds a lot to the OP.
Thanks for bringing nothing!

reply to post by sligtlyskeptical

i do wish ATS was more solution oriented rather than the eternal pissing contests. I would imagine if all these different groups came together in the right way, we could formulate a plan for this country that would work for all. I know this is a conspiracy site, but ultimately all conspiracies come down to the inner working of society, politics, and economics.

This. So much this. The attitudes of some people on here remind me of a line from The Simpsons:

"You gotta help us! We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas."

People are constantly on here complaining about how bad the world is but when pressed to actually do something they act like it's not their responsibility. The way I see it ATS doesn't need to be infiltrated because we'll beat ourselves every single time.

reply to post by opethPA


it's obvious ... all this monitoring is just for domestic purposes nothing to do with terror they see a huge market for domestic spying to deliver civil penalties such as fines and # . if you've seen fith element remmember the taxi scene your licence has yay points now it has these points then your licence is expired auto fine auto fine and demolition man .. john spartan you are fined blah blah blah ... domestic spying and data mining its really just a huge shadow government global buisness plan.. terrorists the real ones not the false flag #bags that did 9/11 dont use windows because they are smart enough to know .. thats what im saying i just couldnt be arsed to spell it out for you because well ... you should already know

I HAVE NEVER gotten a virus on my android phone yet, i also have it rooted and can deny permissions from any app, system or d/led and let me tell ya, i should have viruses with the amount of random sites i visit and d/l from. but nope never a problem i have owned 4 droid devices, never had viruses or anything of that nature yet.
as for apple, buy one if you like being sold a detuned device.

Originally posted by winofiend
Oh my god, no one has a clue!!!!! lol

Ok, you just got a new pc with windows on it. You boot her up, load your default software and start browsing to ats.

Suddenly, and completely expectedly, Windows says "Duhh I need to update." and goes off checking update servers. It doesn't just start downloading from a web page. All those microsoft alerts...

But it's more entertaining to ourselves to think it's a secret microsoft trigger once you hit the forums on ATS. No one would ever detect that...

-- edit to add

And it sounds like you just plugged your webcam in. No way it will want to auto update. Windows may have been updated. But automatic updates and software updates are entirely different things.

(my tv just went out and no signal. seems they've got me too!)

edit on 21-2-2013 by winofiend because: (no reason given)

he said he updated every thing

Everywhere has been infiltrated, get with the program.

Originally posted by oasisjack
To be clear I allowed it update first completely before I browsed here. I have made threads prior with the same keywords but with no hint at organisation a little weird traffic insued however quickly ceased. But once a hint of political organisation with constitution and federal reserve as targets of interest all the above issues happend in short order. Dont get me wrong the thread is true and I do intend on getting a few of my friends in politics to help set it up I found it strange that that was the thread that tptb have taken an interest in. I have sniffer programs installed and running as well as a complex firewall that stops and reports all traffic. I have client credit card and personal info on these machines so security is number one.

Can you show us screen pics of the outgoing connection? Can you learn how to trace a connection and find out the IP with in the screen shots? If this really is happening you never thought it could be the virus protection software? First look at CNET a main stream download site, they probably have some affiliation. Second allot of popular virus protection programs are known to be used by the Govt to monitor what your doing. Third, dont you think microsoft or some black govt organization is doing this to every one? They all ready admit they save EVERY email. They must have some type of infinite space hard drive. After all your only posing what some one else wrote before you right?

Originally posted by roadgravel
Run a sniffer on your PC to check for traffic that shouldn't be flowing.

That's not going to stop anyone who knows what they are doing...

If this is governmental entity, they have direct access to your ISP; so unless you block all traffic coming from your cable company to your computer its not going to help much. Anyways, in this day and age data can be sent remotely via some electromagnetic devices quite easily. Unless your computer is shielded with some type of Faraday cage, you are going to have a-lot of trouble stopping anything electromagnetic in nature.

There has been some speculation that Microsoft included a backdoor for law enforcement entity's in their releases even as early as Windows VISTA, and I tend to agree that they have very likely done this. Just look how ready they were to jump on this DMA (digital millennium act) crap, and lock down users computers who were found "with pirated software". This "COFFEY" software seems to fit the bill; tho they obviously have said much about its actual abililty's.

Originally posted by Xcalibur254
reply to post by sligtlyskeptical

 

i do wish ATS was more solution oriented rather than the eternal pissing contests. I would imagine if all these different groups came together in the right way, we could formulate a plan for this country that would work for all. I know this is a conspiracy site, but ultimately all conspiracies come down to the inner working of society, politics, and economics.

This. So much this. The attitudes of some people on here remind me of a line from The Simpsons:

"You gotta help us! We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas."

People are constantly on here complaining about how bad the world is but when pressed to actually do something they act like it's not their responsibility. The way I see it ATS doesn't need to be infiltrated because we'll beat ourselves every single time.

QFT!
"Doing something" gives one stress, anxiety and grey hair... along with digestive problems. Ask me how I know... and my most heavy involvement is only local/regional. In one huge instance of proof I was running the local crime stoppers with a forum and tip line/anon email.. folks loooove to gripe and place themselves on a pedestal, but when it comes down to it and doing something, they are cowards and all they can manage to do is badmouth the cops... for not being more cop-ish. Oh, and dont forget the gossip and lying. Everyone seems to love to play the victim in their own little fantasy show."Doing something" makes you enemies and is a royal headache, particularly when you discover all of these self styled "patriots" are all bark and no bite when it comes down to it. The apathy is incredible.. griping plentiful.. I dont see the govt being too worried about the internet masses and their chatter. There are only a few that have the cajones... and they know it. Current issues and history prove it.
I agree old friend.. we are our own worst enemy and no agents are needed to infiltrate the site. We do a great job of it all by ourselves. ATSers are our own worst enemy.
THEY have little to worry about. Its not a matter of US against THEM.. its totally US against US... and they just have the ability to exploit it. People would do well to realize that if "we" rise up.. we will be fighting fellow citizen "we"s" before we ever get to the nefarious "THEMs".

I have an issue boiling right now.. and its the same ol thing. All bark and no bite. Ugh..

I had my web cam turn on by itself a few months ago...I never use the web cam. Perhaps to take a facial recognition picture and attach a face to an isp address? Whatever. I am only on ATS for "entertainment purposes" and to stir up controversy to agitate the agitators. Nothing here spies....move along.

reply to post by CaticusMaximus

I know they observe, and I have a theory that if they are reading it may be possible to introduce what I call double binds into their mind, not unlike a virus, but of a psycho spiritual nature, forcing them to re-evaluate their own position, or reap a bad harvest. I know, sounds a little crazy, but I almost always have "them" in mind as well as the reader when I post, I'd call it "truth to power" but their type of power isn't real power at all.

Think of it as if there's a major "fulcrum" of historical transformation in our midst, involving the hearts and minds of the people, which if we just push on it at just the right point long enough and hard enough, the whole "pyramid" will invert itself whereby any such observers could suddenly find themselves on the wrong side of history crushed under the weight of the whole structure (the real one, once it overturns). And thus if we have the power to cast them down in this way, we also have the power to then throw them a lifeline for their own salvation which they would be very wise to grasp ahold of.

It's very funny, but also a very serious and grave business.

Use the communication channel against them and make their little games the very crux of their undoing, and since they cannot help but to read, then we've got them where we want them!



P.S. To be successful in waging this psychic war of words and ideas, we might be well served however to first learn how to spell and use proper grammar, because I don't think they're going to take a bunch of gradeschool level kids seriously.. In our use of language as a powerful tool for transformation at all levels, we have to appear as a force to be reckoned with.

Originally posted by Druscilla
reply to post by oasisjack

 

My personal opinion is that you're intentionally trying to sell us a complete load of bull in pushing a paranoia campaign, either for personal kicks or out of some self-entitled sense of following

Finally out of your own mouth a definition in which suits your perfectly!!!!!

And you even confirm this a few posts down where u clearly state that more people HATE YOU then know the OP is alive or some HOGWASH along those lines....

Talk about self righteous, people thinking your way of thinking is so off the wall that they question it so often has made you think your something special or a "critical thinker" HAHAHAHAHAH

What gives u any sort of credibility is the fact that your an excellent student when it comes to grammar, punctuation, and vocabulary!!

But outside of that your empty, every post ive ever seen from you was literate and punctually correct; but the manner in which you arrange your words "when your thinking" rarely makes sense, comes off rude and sarcastic, and 85 % of the time completely offtopic and usually bashing the OP it self or the thread maker...

So try to think about that next time you post, I: bet you find you have nothing to contribute !!

My phone has had the same situation, sometimes the battery lasts only a few hours. When I turn off all internet connections it stops sucking battery life, so there is definitely some program utilizing the internet.

Whether that's to do with someone infiltrating my phone though I'd deem unlikely. More likely a rogue app partially functioning or something.

reply to post by ContractedMercenary

And if you have nothing of any value to add, it's better to say nothing at all while perhaps going back to school to learn the difference between "your" and "you're"..

Originally posted by DAZ21
My phone has had the same situation, sometimes the battery lasts only a few hours. When I turn off all internet connections it stops sucking battery life, so there is definitely some program utilizing the internet.

Whether that's to do with someone infiltrating my phone though I'd deem unlikely. More likely a rogue app partially functioning or something.

Thats what I figure it is.. rogue ap. My middle daughter ISNT doing anything that wouldnt raise any eyebrows, but she loves those goofy apps. Her battery has very poor life and we bought the upgrade battery. Something is running on that thing all the time. We tested the idea and wiped the phone. Yep.. an app was sucking the power even when it said all apps were killed.

Originally posted by NewAgeMan
reply to post by ContractedMercenary

 

And if you have nothing of any value to add, it's better to say nothing at all while perhaps going back to school to learn the difference between "your" and "you're"..

Again LOL it took me 5 minutes to accomplish the problem with ATS..

I never once said i was smarter than anybody just made a decent observation about another poster,

and some a$$-hat named NEW age man directly insults me for no reason, ive never even seen this clown before and he just quotes me to run me down about something i never said i was good at.

Idiots like this cant yell at the wives or children or boss or anybody else, So they go on the internet and act like what they really wish they could be!

reply to post by ContractedMercenary

Best we not fight among ourselves name calling etc. just a waste of time that accomplishes nothing, nada, zilch. Nothing worse than pathetic bickering and putting anyone down, and if I was guilty of that I apologize. Some people just need an attitude adjustment in terms of the way they relate to their fellow man, so I said what I felt needed to be said. We have enough troubles as it is fighting the PTB so why fight amongst ourselves?

Originally posted by NewAgeMan
reply to post by ContractedMercenary

 

Best we not fight among ourselves name calling etc. just a waste of time that accomplishes nothing, nada, zilch. Nothing worse than pathetic bickering and putting anyone down, and if I was guilty of that I apologize. Some people just need an attitude adjustment in terms of the way they relate to their fellow man, so I said what I felt needed to be said. We have enough troubles as it is fighting the PTB so why fight amongst ourselves?

There it is again, im not some high school girl your running game on(you start with a compliment followed by a cut down). You start off by saying sorry, then contradict it by justifying your actions letting me know I needed to be corrected....

You are a complete tool. Instead of thinking im the jerk read some of the posts from the person you are defending. Then read what i posted and really see if i was out of line or just being a tool myself!

Originally posted by CaticusMaximus
reply to post by oasisjack

 

Oh yeah, the entire net is monitored by programs and when certain keywords are used, individual agents are alerted and will look into the situation further.

Something about "Project Echelon" or some such.

I have no doubt this site and EVERY site that can be commented on that can be accessed publicly, the PTB have agents on to sway public opinion, distribute disinformation, misguide, discredit, character assassinate, create strawman arguments, out right lie, and if all else fails, troll and derail and get the discussion closed / deleted.

Thats the internet we have now.

edit on 2/21/2013 by CaticusMaximus because: (no reason given)

I'm sure it's always been the internet we've had. Ever since Al Gore invented it (), i'm sure the government has been planning ahead.

reply to post by ContractedMercenary

You downing me for downing you for downing him.. it's pretty funny actually.

Back to the thread topic..