Nicki Minaj, one of many Satan-worshiping Illuminati puppets, admits to being demon possessed

And the virgin mary was no virgin, more like she let one slip and had a baby

reply to post by LazarusTsiyr

Second coming hasn't happened either so what is your point and what am I wrong about?

Originally posted by DeadSnow
Why does everyone think TPTB do all these things for money, IMHO I think they're trying to rebuild the city of Babylon.

Originally posted by LazarusTsiyr
Well that would definitely make sense from the standpoint of the book of Revelation.

Who owns the youth, owns the future

"These people don’t do this for financial gain but to control the spirit of the people..." - Secret Societies and Their Power in The 20th Century by Jan Van Helsing

It's true and so are many aspects about the rebuilding of Babylon...especially Solomon's Temple.

My late grandfather was a high ranking Mason. When he passed a few years back, I gathered up all his masonic literature and books, which gave me much insight in my research towards these topics and others.

One paticular book, The Mason's Holy Bible, goes into great detail about the importance of rebuilding Solomon's Temple, both metaphorical and physical with very heavy undertones leaning towards blueprints and the physical reconstruction of the temple.
It also hints at the recunstruction coinciding with revelations in some aspects. The whole topic in littered with symbolism in this book that only the most high-ranking Masons will truly understand. A Master Mason is only the 3 degree in a 33 degree ranking system. 33 being the Inspector General, Sublime Prince of The Royal Secret...

This is startling, because through further research I have read that many people believe when the temple is finished being constructed the anti-christ would arrive. Research it further yourself, you will be surpised what you find.

Here are some photos from the book,





Metaphorical or physical, I have a feeling when this temple is finished being "constructed", it's not going to be a good thing.

I still find it hard to believe that so many people think the "Illuminati" are not a serious or real issue. Take the American one dollar bill for example (smallest denomination so everyone has it), it has the "Illuminati" all seeing eye right on it...sitting on another countries national monument, the Great Pyramid.
When you spend those dollars you are giving away more than just money...

Here's one of the BEST videos on the subject of the "Illuminati" and their symbolism in regards to society, money, big corporations, the 2012 Olympics...and is a MUST WATCH.
It's by a brilliant man named Rik Clay, who died from a mysterious heart attack by poison soon after he released the documentary and his facebook page was taken down the day it happened...I know cause I remember, as I was following his research at the time.



Edit: Well look at that! The video doesn't exist when you embed it but it's there when you search youtube for Rik Clay...just adds to the conspiracy!

RIK CLAY - Exposes 2012 London Olympics NWO agenda & then KILLS himself
Rik Clay

MUST WATCH

Originally posted by daskakik
reply to post by LazarusTsiyr

 

Second coming hasn't happened either so what is your point and what am I wrong about?

Everyone always literally thinks the second coming will consist of a life ending meteor or meteor showers followed by Satan emerging from a big hole in the ground drinkin everyones blood and all that. When it could also mean something along the lines of the greater evils in this world finally rising to a position of global dominance and power, and the beginning of a NWO. It's not going to happen over night but it has to start somewhere and they have been hinting that the time is vastly approaching.

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Still waiting to hear back from you.

In fact, I invite you to The Necroposticon: John Todd and the Illuminati if you'd care to learn more about who it is you are sourcing.

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Regardless of how, it doesn't change the fact that it hasn't happened yet.

Originally posted by KyrieEleison
reply to post by ArchaicDesigns

 

Still waiting to hear back from you.

In fact, I invite you to The Necroposticon: John Todd and the Illuminati if you'd care to learn more about who it is you are sourcing.

The extent of your research is a wiki copy and paste? Those are common known facts to anyone with a computer. Second, I used John as one of hundreds of possible examples and not in anyway did I state that, becuase John said so it must be true and held it to the highest regards. Just for you, I will dig up more examples and I don't think it's necessary for me to reply in your thread.

So you are saying, it's not possible for a so called evil person to reveal information about corporations being evil?

I wanted to share a paragraph from a rare book I managed to track down a few years ago, it's called "Secret Societies and Their Power in The 20th Century" by Jan Van Helsing (pseudonym). This is a must read if you are at all interested in secret societies and their true power in modern society, especially the political aspects.

This is in regards to Satanism and Evil symbolism in music,



“Who owns youth owns the future.”

John Todd was the head of the largest amalgamation of recording companies in the whole U.S., ZODIACO Productions. He says that the original matrices of every recording – classical, country, rock, standards, meditation music, disco, folklore…anything – were subjected to a black magic ritual conducted by thirteen people and beset by demons.

These people don’t do this for financial gain but to control the spirit of the people. Many will call this superstition or devil’s work, but here I speak of the largest recording company of the U.S., with the richest people on this planet backing it. Whatever these people do, call it what you will, it brought them riches and power and has plunged the people and nations of this planet into the state they find themselves today and thus has a strong influence upon every listener – you included.

From the ZODIACO later emerged a second company in California called MARANATA. This project was aimed at catching also the young Christians and people of other faiths. So band-names with positive allusions were chosen, and positive lyrics, but the matrices were nevertheless charged with satanic and destructive messages. Their first project was Jesus Christ SUPERSTAR...



This is only one of many examples I have come across in literature about "Brotherhood" or "Illuminati" symbolism and Satanism in music. This example might seem a little far fetched and extreme but if you research it further, you might find out it's not as far fetched as you would like to think...(and by research I mean trying methods other than google)

So what's the purpose of all of this here then? You are essentially taking a cut-and-paste from some obscure, low-circulation pulp fiction written by some nobody and using it as a QFT.

Where's the proof that this clown was "the head of the largest amalgamation of recording companies in the whole U.S.", or any proof whatsoever that this alleged "ZODIACO" even existed and/or had any association with the Maranatha! record label? All things considered, I think the folks over at Maranatha! have been beyond patient with people tossing out wild claims about their history, ALL of it hinges on baseless claims from this John Todd fellow.

MARANATHA! MUSIC October 3, 1978
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:

This is the position of Maranatha! Music regarding the claims of John Todd concerning Maranatha! Music and its supposed relationship to a group known as the Illuminati.

Maranatha! Music is a non-profit organization grossing approximately 1.1 million dollars annually. It was started in connection with Calvary Chapel of Costa Mesa in 1971 (incorporated as a separate organization in 1972) with a loan from Pastor Chuck Smith of under $3000.

That money was used to produce the first Maranatha! Music album, which sold over 200,000 copies. The money from those sales furthered the ministry and was the source for funds to produce more albums. Today, fifty per cent of our sales are from our _Praise_ albums.

We have been audited by the Internal Revenue Service, out books have been declared accurate, and we welcome further audits from any reputable, qualified firm.

Our organization is governed by a board of directors, who serve without pay.

On the basis of the above facts, I state that the claims of John Todd concerning Maranatha! Music are not true. Maranatha! Music was not started with $8 million, given through Todd by the Illuminati to promote Christian rock music, which Todd says is occultic.

We did not at any time sue Todd and certainly did not withdraw a suit when Todd told us such a suit would confirm his allegations.The Calvary Chapel choir director was not given two checks for $4 million each for Maranatha! Music by Todd. Calvary Chapel has no choir and no choir director.

We pray that Christians will discern the truth in this matter and will seek documentation such as that presented above to disprove Todd's statements concerning Maranatha! Music and the other Christian ministries he has spoken against.

In the love of Christ,
(signed)
Chuck Fromm, President
MARANATHA! MUSIC, P.O. BOX 1396, Costa Mesa, CA 92626, 714-979-8536

These guys I think have been more than gracious in their handling of all this nonsense, yet people who still go on and on furthering these fictional claims are doing nothing except hurting honest people with their wild accusations with not a single shred of evidence whatsoever.

Sounds libelous.

Originally posted by HooHaa
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If you are a designer... Why do all those designs and adds have all that satanic imagery? Why all the remake of the same movies, the same songs? Why all the sex and satanic symbols in children s cartoons? Its as if they are trying to program or no one has an original thought anymore.. This goes way beyond coincidence.. They have done this since the 80's when i first found out about it..

When someone posts about it.. You im an advertising guy/gal types come out and poo poo it.. Sorry not buying it..

You see what you want to see I suppose.

Are you suggesting that I am part of it and that I'm trying to help out in this conspiracy?

Originally posted by daskakik
reply to post by LazarusTsiyr

 

Second coming hasn't happened either so what is your point and what am I wrong about?

I never said it did. And I never said the Beast is on the scene yet. Your problem is you are projecting a lot of things onto me that I never said. That's called a strawman.

The point is you have it all wrong.

reply to post by LazarusTsiyr

Your exact words:

And that's the problem! They are making it cool and acceptable. That's been my point all along. This is just one of many ways in which the Beast will take power. It's easier to get the people to go along if they are conditioned to these things.

It has been your point all along. Symbols and hand signs in music videos are going to condition people to just overlook man killing locusts, the 4 horsemen, mountains of fire falling into the sea, a third of heavenly bodies falling from the sky, hail and fire mixed with blood and 2 dead witnesses coming back to life.

OK, if you say so, but that sounds pretty illogical to me.

Originally posted by daskakik

It has been your point all along. Symbols and hand signs in music videos are going to condition people to just overlook man killing locusts, the 4 horsemen, mountains of fire falling into the sea, a third of heavenly bodies falling from the sky, hail and fire mixed with blood and 2 dead witnesses coming back to life.

OK, if you say so, but that sounds pretty illogical to me.

Thanks for illustrating that you completely don't get my point. Either that or you are just way too happy to complete distort what I'm saying and construct a strawman to attack instead.

No, my point is that these things will condition people to be accepting for when the Antichrist assumes total power through the Illuminati who is paving the way for him. When all these things come to pass that are found in Revelation it will already be too late for many people, for those who take the Mark of the Beast.

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You really are not getting my point. All the things I listed happen before the Anti-christ takes control and I doubt music video decor is going to just make people gloss over events like that.

Honestly that last post reminded me why I stopped being a devout christian. Have been trying to keep it within that context but it just sounds too silly to me, even if you had gotten my point.

I will leave you to your thread.

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Common Knowledge according to who? You think a prospecting stars "soul" is simply metaphorical for artistic expression and freedom? Wouldn't you think a big corporation responsible for the wealth and image of prospecting stars to be up to something a little dark to be personified as "the devil"?

And you should respond to the rest of the questions in my post instead of just one part of it.

Originally posted by bigman88
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Common Knowledge according to who?

Common knowledge to anyone who has ever listened to an artist complain about it.

You think a prospecting stars "soul" is simply metaphorical for artistic expression and freedom?

Yes, just like giving your heart to someone doesn't really involve you ripping it out of your chest.

Wouldn't you think a big corporation responsible for the wealth and image of prospecting stars to be up to something a little dark to be personified as "the devil"?

It fits the phrase.

Originally posted by daskakik

Originally posted by bigman88
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Common Knowledge according to who?

Common knowledge to anyone who has ever listened to an artist complain about it.

You think a prospecting stars "soul" is simply metaphorical for artistic expression and freedom?

Yes, just like giving your heart to someone doesn't really involve you ripping it out of your chest.

Wouldn't you think a big corporation responsible for the wealth and image of prospecting stars to be up to something a little dark to be personified as "the devil"?

It fits the phrase.

When someone gives their heart to someone, it is a metaphor for sharing all of their trust, love, inner secrets, thoughts and ideas with someone. So when someone uses that metaphor, then it is perfectly sensible.

But ones "soul" is simply artistic expression and freedom? Just from the meaning, concept, and associations of a soul, it would be much more significant and meaningful than someones artistic expression. Your comparison is a bit unequal. I'm sure you can find better metaphors to make this particular point stronger.

And how does a supposed idea or force as evil, mysterious and supernatural as the devil be assigned to a big money corporation?

And once again, what do you thin of the rest of my post from before? Iv'e encountered posters on this forum and others that addresses the portions of a post they are able to rebuttal against, and disregard and ignore the parts they cant. You another one?

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The metaphor probably comes from the legend of Faust.

I think you are showing a bit of bias when you claim the metaphor of giving your heart to someone is appropriate but that an artist selling their soul is "simply" artistic expression and freedom.

Giving your heart metaphorically doesn't involve taking it out of your chest. Why would artists using that metaphor of selling their soul, which has actually become a cliche, be talking about literally selling their soul.

And how does a supposed idea or force as evil, mysterious and supernatural as the devil be assigned to a big money corporation?

There are only two parties in the deal with the devil metaphor. The person selling his soul and the devil. The artist is the one selling his soul so the big money corporation gets the part of the devil by default.

And once again, what do you thin of the rest of my post from before?

I actually found most of your previous questions wrapped up pretty well in your last post. They seemed to me to be the same questions and honestly if a person can show that part of an argument is invalid it usually applies to the rest.

For example, if it is argued that an artistic selling their soul is a metaphor then that means that a record company being the devil is also metaphor. You shouldn't need to read it twice to know that it applies across the entire situation.

Also, when a person agrees then there just isn't a rebuttal.

Originally posted by daskakik
reply to post by bigman88

The metaphor probably comes from the legend of Faust.

I think you are showing a bit of bias when you claim the metaphor of giving your heart to someone is appropriate but that an artist selling their soul is "simply" artistic expression and freedom.

Giving your heart metaphorically doesn't involve taking it out of your chest. Why would artists using that metaphor of selling their soul, which has actually become a cliche, be talking about literally selling their soul.

If you fully read my post from before, you would see that your interpretation of the metaphor, which is artistic expression, is quite downplayed here. The concept of a soul, be it real or fantasy, involves much more than just artistic expression; it constitutes ones very inner fiber; their ideas, their convictions, thoughts, beliefs, inner laws that governs function in surroundings and with others, your outlook on life and how to live it. You leave the metaphor of soul as artistic expression, and that's it.

If you fully read and processed my post, you would see that i was playing devils advocate here. I do fully believe that this world is run by a small but powerful, hidden, and thoroughly established group of people who take orders from lucifer/satan/the devil, be it he resides here on earth or in another dimension. But being that i admittedly do not have as much faith and knowledge in the evidence behind this to convince other's without a long, arduous debate that i have no patience to conduct over the internet, i limited my argument to the metaphorical possibility. I made sure not to insist upon others that it literally is ones spiritual being controlled, but you still respond like i fully argued it.

There are only two parties in the deal with the devil metaphor. The person selling his soul and the devil. The artist is the one selling his soul so the big money corporation gets the part of the devil by default.

Your missing the point of here. Be it fairytale or reality, the persona and idea of the devil has always been evil, manipulative, base, amoral, bloodthirsty, selfish, lustful, oh yeah, and the prince of hell. Anything horrible and evil can be attributed to him or the mystique around him. Sticking to the metaphorical possibility, i stressed the severity of a big corporation being personified as the devil, or being assigned the idea of the devil. I avoided any literal interpretation and just concentrated on what a corporation does behind it's closed doors that would give it such a severe title. No business is going to buy souls and be called the devil without truly earning that sh**.

I actually found most of your previous questions wrapped up pretty well in your last post. They seemed to me to be the same questions and honestly if a person can show that part of an argument is invalid it usually applies to the rest.

For example, if it is argued that an artistic selling their soul is a metaphor then that means that a record company being the devil is also metaphor. You shouldn't need to read it twice to know that it applies across the entire situation.

Also, when a person agrees then there just isn't a rebuttal.

You seem to have conveniently skipped the question posed of how do most major celebrities, or the team who manages them, uniformly feel like becoming more popular by having fans or potential fans wonder if they are participating in an all powerful satanic secret society. What makes most major celebrities, or those who manages them, want to have loyal, faithful and adoring people who respect and love them, mill the idea in their head of them being a worshiper of the friggin devil, or a puppet/full fledged member of a group of people who worship the friggin the devil or controls every aspect of life for their own selfish or evil ends? What about Hollywood switches someone's mind to generate such a kind of buzz, or does Hollywood attract those who wish to generate that kind of buzz?

Here's an even better question; does a fan or potential fan really buy an album when they hear or see that some musician is in the illuminti? Does that really generate that much more income and popularity? "what? they said they are in the illuminati? Yo, i did notice all the triangles and eyes on their clothing and music videos! Whoa, a 10th devil hand gesture in a 5 minute time span? they just might be in the illuminati, interesting... lets go cop the latest album."

That sounds highly unlikely to me. Something much more solid could have been used here, but this is the most accepted and utilized argument on this subject.

Originally posted by bigman88
The concept of a soul, be it real or fantasy, involves much more than just artistic expression; it constitutes ones very inner fiber; their ideas, their convictions, thoughts, beliefs, inner laws that governs function in surroundings and with others, your outlook on life and how to live it. You leave the metaphor of soul as artistic expression, and that's it.

To an artist, artistic expression would be the end result of all those things you mentioned. Restrict that and you make the artist feel that all those things have been compromised.

I do fully believe that this world is run by a small but powerful, hidden, and thoroughly established group of people who take orders from lucifer/satan/the devil, be it he resides here on earth or in another dimension.

If that is indeed the case then what better way to manage things than through international corporations. The thing is that I don't know anybody that works for these types of companies who refers to getting a job from them as selling their soul to the devil. Only artists.

Your missing the point of here. Be it fairytale or reality, the persona and idea of the devil has always been evil, manipulative, base, amoral, bloodthirsty, selfish, lustful, oh yeah, and the prince of hell. Anything horrible and evil can be attributed to him or the mystique around him. Sticking to the metaphorical possibility, i stressed the severity of a big corporation being personified as the devil, or being assigned the idea of the devil. I avoided any literal interpretation and just concentrated on what a corporation does behind it's closed doors that would give it such a severe title. No business is going to buy souls and be called the devil without truly earning that sh**.

Yes they are. People do it all the time. Especially when talking about an overbearing boss, restrictive parents or obsessive partner.

You seem to have conveniently skipped the question posed of how do most major celebrities, or the team who manages them, uniformly feel like becoming more popular by having fans or potential fans wonder if they are participating in an all powerful satanic secret society. What makes most major celebrities, or those who manages them, want to have loyal, faithful and adoring people who respect and love them, mill the idea in their head of them being a worshiper of the friggin devil, or a puppet/full fledged member of a group of people who worship the friggin the devil or controls every aspect of life for their own selfish or evil ends? What about Hollywood switches someone's mind to generate such a kind of buzz, or does Hollywood attract those who wish to generate that kind of buzz?

How would I know? I don't participate in their meetings. They did their marketing research and this came up as a workable idea.

Here's an even better question; does a fan or potential fan really buy an album when they hear or see that some musician is in the illuminti? Does that really generate that much more income and popularity? "what? they said they are in the illuminati? Yo, i did notice all the triangles and eyes on their clothing and music videos! Whoa, a 10th devil hand gesture in a 5 minute time span? they just might be in the illuminati, interesting... lets go cop the latest album."

That sounds highly unlikely to me. Something much more solid could have been used here, but this is the most accepted and utilized argument on this subject.

They might if they are in fact gang members or somehow idolize that lifestyle. Someone who thinks like that might see any type of secret society being similar to their "secret society" and would not automatically label it something bad.

On the other hand they might just like the music and all the symbolism means diddly squat to them. Is that so hard to believe?

Originally posted by aorAki

Originally posted by LazarusTsiyr

Originally posted by SaturnFX

Explain how its dangerous.

Simple. They are getting people familiar with Satan and Illuminati symbolism. They are making it acceptable and non-shocking.

Yet apparently Judaeo-Christian (Abrahamic religions) symbolism is o.k., even though it comes from a stone age death cult which has poisoned the world?

Personally I think there is too much paranoia and not enough rational thinking.
Sure, there are some people who are after making a quick buck or million or so, but all this talk of 'the devil' or 'the lord' etc is just another side of the coin of ignorance.

Still, I can understand how the feeble construct castles in their minds and are open to brainwashing....

hmmm.

Where in the OP did he say Judeo-Christian symbols were ok?

No object is to be made to represent any object/creature in heaven or on Earth for the purpose of a symbol- 2nd commandment.

Whether a "cross", "star of David", "angel statue", "pentegram", "Bephomat image", "interlocking 666s" or other such images, none are acceptable according to the Eternal God of scripture.

Those that do even a little bit of research will understand that even those images accepted by Jews and Christians to this day are of Satanic origin and used to keep mankind in bondage to self.

The word translated as "cross" is the word for "stake, pole, tree"; there is a completely different greek word that means cross. Jesus was not even killed on two pieces of wood crossed, as his false image has depicted. he died on a wooden pole, straight up and down with a single nine inch nail through both ankles, and a single nine inch nail through both wrists (above his head).

God Bless,