Govt taking more of my check in 2013. DId your taxes go up, too? Are you Rich?

Originally posted by macman
reply to post by EarthCitizen07

 

I understand what you are stating and disagree, as that is the Progressive idea of "Fairness".
If you own the land, and paid taxes during the course of the purchase, then how is it even in the world of right or that it is okay that a person be taxed continually every year?

It is like when we have gone on Cruises. They say the price for the cruise is $1999. But, then you get hit with fueling surcharges, port fees, an automatic 15% paid for gratuity to the staff and then additional taxes.

It is a way to nickel and dime people to death.
If the county needs money, then a single source of revenue is to be established, not 2 blatant ones and 10 stealth taxes.

I don't pay tax every year for my TV, or computer.

They simply use your real estate as forced collateral so that you pay taxes to the local authorities for the reasons I already mentioned. The township does not own your property, neither do you lease it from them. I am not hinting that you are implying this, but I do see people get confused with this issue. If you don't pay the taxes then they can reposses your property, auction it out and collect that way...just like when you get a mortgage and miss payments the bank takes over.

When it comes to state and federal taxes if you don't pay then you pay large fines and/or go to jail.

Different strategies are employed but the bottom line is that the authorities want to collect from you one way or another.

Originally posted by macman

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Doesn't calling liberals progressives and conservatives fascists ever get old?

No, as I have no problem calling people out. That is the problem these days. Everyone, or most people, are of this mindset that you can't be blunt and tell others off, how it is or anything else.
I have no problem being the person to make these statements, and given dirty looks for it.

But you are mislabeling people because of your hate. A liberal is simply someone who wants a social welfare system attached to capitalism. A conservative wants capitalism without any welfare state.

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Liberals and conservatives are both capitalists. Progressives are usually for mixed economy socialism and revolutionaries are for communism.

Ah...kind of. Liberal is a mind set. Conservative is a way of living. Progressive is a thought process to have people controlled by Govt.
Socialism and Communism are failed ideals.

Capitalism(especially with a dwindling welfare state) has failed much more.

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Study history. Fox News and the tea party do not count for much. They are propaganda pieces!

I don't watch Fox. Don't even have cable TV, hell we don't even watch much TV with that.
And believe me, I have studied history, thus the reasoning why myself and many others are stating what we state of the things that are coming.

The enemy is not the government. Government is a necessary entity unless you believe in anarchy and I certainly do not. Stupid and misinformed people vote for the wrong parties and then complain like children when things don't go their way. The solution is simple: get informed and vote differently!

As for communism I never said it was a good system. Yes it failed. Socialism(a mixed economy) is different, but I don't have the patience to explain it to people who were born to abhor it and told to do so every day.

Your a fool if u think it matters if u vote for RED or Blue they are all the same and do what they are told when they get in there any ways.

It isn't like they give us a choice any ways it's A or B and u got spend billions to even get into the dam thing it's a joke and its time to abolish this gov and start fresh

Best thing u can do is claim excempt from Federal taxes on W4 no income equals no gov if everyone does it and they won't be able to do anything about it and this gov will be finished and die then we can start fresh with a small gov as intends from the start.

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People have plenty of choices but they FEAR CHANGE!

The a or b is for sheep.

reply to post by EarthCitizen07

And there is the large problem.
I own said property, yet if I don't submit to yearly taxes, then the state can take it from me. I see this as a huge issue and everyone else should as well.

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I hate people that want to punish me for what I have and what I earn.
Be it liberal, republican or what ever.

And yes, you are right to an extent. The enemy is not the "Govt", but the people in the Govt that a running us into the ground and stealing from the individual.