DHS Expecting Trouble this summer

Apparently the department of homeland security is preparing for mass civil unrest for the summer,They cite the recent military operations in cities as desensitizing all involved for such operations.
This is the second posting.
If this thread disappears too it is a rather obvious tell.

reply to post by cavtrooper7


What's the trigger, and where are they expecting the worst hit areas will be?

Got a source or anything I can look at?

Yeah I guess they though the previous post was too short,unless this one disappears too.
Then I'm suspicious.
Censoring is another way to verify information.

reply to post by netwarrior


They wouldn't put that out.Surprise is their only weapon ,they don't have the numbers.

reply to post by cavtrooper7


Why dont you supply a source for your information and also tell us more about your opinion on the subject.

Just typing a few words claiming something is kinda worthless. Make it a full paragraph at least

reply to post by cavtrooper7


I hate to ask....but why this summer? What gives you this impression? I am not in front of the laptop as much as most here; therefore I know of only a couple of drills that I noticed on youtube. One is Austin and I can't remember where the other was. I was surprised to find that none of the local authorities were informed.

Another site that interested me - on a "cop" type reality show I noticed DHS patrolling the "convention police" in Vegas. Treating the local patrols like hall monitors and DHS being the adult version of Scared Straight.

Americans are in need of vacay according to statistics; we work too much! A forced vacay, xtreme camping style?

Does not surprise me one bit, but any more meat to this? Or is it just an inkling with everything going on right now?

Now thats a rather disturbing article, skimmed over it will have to read it in the am.

Thanks for shedding light on this sly1one

[SNIP]. OMG SOURCE SOURCE. how about everything the gov has ever done. but anyways. the original thread was about this article theallegiant.com... itary-exercises-in-u-s-cities/

Have we not heard or read this before, not from AJ or the other one Infor.., not before its news oh yea www.scribd.com... from the link

Preparing For Civil War InThe US?
Alexander Higgins
April 8, 2012Recent massive ammo purchases by US domestic agencies,Obama’s Executive Order to prepare for martial law and recentanti-protests laws all point to one thing. DHS Preparing For Civil WarIn The US?

yea i thought i saw a DHS, it is it is.... not

reply to post by cavtrooper7


For those of us who have been on ATS for many a moon threads like this remind me of the DarkKnight thread.




Remember that one? Well he was wrong and so are you. But I am sure many will come here seeking answers in the dark.

Well I had a longer reply than this written out for the first thread but due to the first one being trashed mid-progress I scrapped that reply.

here is a shorter version as I don't have confidence ATS won't delete this one too...

Original source posted by OP in original thread:
theallegiant.com...


Previous threads as evidence to this OP thread:
Miami Heli-Machine Gun
Houston School Training
abclocal.go.com.../local&id=8971311

They are setting a precedents...others in those older threads discussed this not being anything new as they have done this since at least 2011...as if that makes this stuff old news and "common practice"...

it doesn't...2011 is still new behavior and a precedence was set THEN...and its trying to be reinforced NOW...and in the future people will refer to these examples to illustrate that this is "common military practice" to dismiss the "concern"...

Cuz we all know on a lower intellectual level...if its been going on forever that makes it acceptable

The standard is being set. Most in those previous threads predicted more and more of this behavior mixing military and police in open-urban training anywhere they want...

Which kinda voids the necessity for military land designated for "training purposes"...apparently all of the US is a "training ground"...and we should be happy and shut up because they are doing it to "protect us"...




edit to add: no idea why the ABC link doesn't want to work...its a direct copy and past from the page I'm looking at right this second...
just copy and past this and remove the space
abclocal.go.com [remove this space] /ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=8971311

The trouble that I see DHS having is that if sequestration goes into effect March 1st, Agencies under DHS like CBP, Border Patrol, will be losing about 40 percent of their pay. Meanwhile the congressmen gave themselves a 10 per cent increase on their salary.

I will see how many BPs are going to walk out the job, apply for bankruptcy, suicide( big in law enforcement), go to other agencies or stay.

With all these cuts to adjust to the new budget (or the lack of), I would like to see how well protected the border are going to be, and how eager DHS law enforcement agencies are go be willing to deal with riots, or even if they are going to have enough people to do so.

I always have to chuckle at people that think the DHS is some new agency with their own police force and powers.

Its actually just putting a bunch of pre-existing agencies all under one authority so they can better communicate and coordinate with each other.

Its not like they actually created anything that didn't exist before. Maybe a little bit, but not much.

reply to post by Sly1one


It very well could be. I considered after seeing the miami video. I can't think of any battlefield we would be looking toward that would be anything like Miami (unless maybe NK invaded Seoul on foot lol). These excercises do test the waters though, gauge reactions, and desensitize a little.

Fly a chopper over Miami and fire off some rounds. How did the public feel? How many trials before they ignore it? How did the crew feel after the run? Were they comfortable firing over American cities? Etc.

Of course it could be nothing, but it's never wise to ignore without any consideration.

I hope they don't think 'Homeland Youth" will be effective like Nazi brown shirts.

reply to post by cavtrooper7

I like the truth that can be found in music.

Originally posted by mcsandy
reply to post by cavtrooper7

 

I hate to ask....but why this summer? What gives you this impression? I am not in front of the laptop as much as most here; therefore I know of only a couple of drills that I noticed on youtube. One is Austin and I can't remember where the other was. I was surprised to find that none of the local authorities were informed.

Another site that interested me - on a "cop" type reality show I noticed DHS patrolling the "convention police" in Vegas. Treating the local patrols like hall monitors and DHS being the adult version of Scared Straight.

Americans are in need of vacay according to statistics; we work too much! A forced vacay, xtreme camping style?

Three reasons according to the article that he had posted in his first thread (that was quickly removed). Collapse of the dollar, gas prices continue to rise and the gun control debate. All three reasons are suspected to cause "Civil Unrest"

DHS plans for this summer

I asked if there was a timeline for expecting civil unrest in our cities and why should we expect it to begin with. I was told that there were many reasons, but that the continued devaluation of our currency, the predicted history-setting prices for gasoline this summer and the continued gun control debate are forming a perfect storm of civil discontent. When this storm hits, it will most assuredly produce mass casualties. When does DHS expect this to happen? This summer.

Billions of bullets purchases, old forts converted into prison camps, numerous executive orders and the attempts to take away the guns. And now military training all across America.

This was one of many joint military-local law enforcement exercises that had come to my attention in less than one month. Held in cities across the U.S., they were becoming more common and more intense. But why? Why train in populated towns and cities where accidents could produce unnecessary casualties?

It's getting interesting. And for those who come on the thread and say it's not rare and nothing to be concerned about:

At no time during my time there were “realistic urban training” exercises conducted in towns and cities. This is a recent development.

Also found this story at the same site about DHS and local law enforcement training together using cardboard cut ups for target practice of pregnant women and children, holding guns.

Law Enforcement Targets, Inc. is providing DHS and law enforcement departments all across the U.S. with targets ”designed to give officers the experience of dealing with deadly force shooting scenarios with subjects that are not the norm during training.” These targets are called “No More Hesitation” targets. According to their website, “No More Hesitation faded background enhances the isolation and is meant to help the transition for officers who are faced with these highly unusal (sic) targets for the first time.” The targets include “pregnant woman threat,” “older man with shotgun,” “older man in home with shotgun,” “older woman with gun,” “young school aged girl,” “young mother on playground,” and “little boy with real gun.”

If this is true, then DHS is gearing up their officers to deal with "Civil Unrest"

It seems DHS and local law enforcement is gearing up in many ways. Non-military agencies have purchased over 2 billion rounds of ammunition this year. To put that in perspective, U.S. troops were firing around 5.5 million rounds per month during the Iraqi war. At that rate, DHS is now supplied for a 24-year Iraq war. But DHS is an internal agency. And those rounds are spread out over multiple, internal, agencies.

DHS using pregnant women and children targets for practice

reply to post by thegrayone


In a conclusion of outside sources I have come to believe that possibly the sequestration will happen which will basically redirected to DHS/TSA and no crisis can perpetuate with out the C-IA!

The President is the originator of the idea with the ability to choose where that big 2% goes. My bet he will cut off entitlements, strip local good ole boy sherriffs from their post hopefully have enough cash to throw to all the service members and secret UN lots ready to deploy at a momments notice. I believe they could possibly spread anothther strain of "the flu." Of course the latest didn't work - therefore what was in all for anyway?

To create mandatory innoculation, implant RFID chips to ensure "your family" is "cared" for as well as your medical needs. (bahaaaahahahaaa)

reply to post by cavtrooper7


You know, given the amount of talk concerning future instability is it any wonder governments are preparing?

So the question remains, is this really about something sinister or merely just reasonable preparation for future possibilities?

I often worry about self-fulfilling prophecies. Paranoia can often push things in directions no one likes.

Food for thought.