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Numbers in the Bible are really geo coordinates? You tell me.
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Good People,
I must ask, are these links I'm posting to Google Maps working?? Every time I personally click on them, I only get half the coordinates to fill in. What do you see after clicking on them?? IF this becomes an issue, simply copy and paste the coordinates included in each respective post.
I must ask, are these links I'm posting to Google Maps working?? Every time I personally click on them, I only get half the coordinates to fill in. What do you see after clicking on them?? IF this becomes an issue, simply copy and paste the coordinates included in each respective post.
Originally posted by Toelint
reply to post by Chickensalad
In the case of the Land Of Manasseh, All I did was replace the commas in the respective populations with periods. The first number is always North, and the second number is always East. Obviously, this doesn't work with just any two numbers. I've had my fair share of "hits" in Sweden (Hah!), India, Russia, and China. But I've also had interesting hits in Libya,Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Ethiopia, and the Sinai Peninsula. Certainly, I need to refine my technique, but I see real promise here.
You just torpedoed your entire argument. You've discarded data that didn't fit your hypothesis but retained the stuff that supports it. That's bad science. Hypothesis rejected.
reply to post by Foundryman
Foundryman, how so? All I've done is report where many of the hits have taken me. They may very well prove worth keeping. As far as the commenting my technique needs work, that certainly doesn't mean the code goes into the trash can. All it means is some numbers, when paired with the wrong numbers will put you in the wrong spot. If someone can't read a map, you don't toss the map, you simply learn to read it as it SHOULD be read.
Foundryman, how so? All I've done is report where many of the hits have taken me. They may very well prove worth keeping. As far as the commenting my technique needs work, that certainly doesn't mean the code goes into the trash can. All it means is some numbers, when paired with the wrong numbers will put you in the wrong spot. If someone can't read a map, you don't toss the map, you simply learn to read it as it SHOULD be read.
reply to post by Toelint
Also, when it comes to numbers, You're not dealing with parables. One doesn't have the option of saying, "Well, what the writer really means is...". You either connect one string of digits to the correct second string of digits or you don't. I'm sure there's plenty of numbers strings I've erroneously connected. I'm just as sure I've also made correct connections, but I didn't see the pertinence of them. That doesn't make the theory wrong.
Okay, now I'm repeating myself.
Also, when it comes to numbers, You're not dealing with parables. One doesn't have the option of saying, "Well, what the writer really means is...". You either connect one string of digits to the correct second string of digits or you don't. I'm sure there's plenty of numbers strings I've erroneously connected. I'm just as sure I've also made correct connections, but I didn't see the pertinence of them. That doesn't make the theory wrong.
Okay, now I'm repeating myself.
edit on 25-2-2013 by Toelint because: Correcting a wordiness issue.
edit on 25-2-2013 by
Toelint because: (no reason given)
And here are my findings from Genesis chapter Eleven in it's entirety. By the way, if you find any errors, BY ALL MEANS feel free to correct me!
Sometimes my mind wonders at the worst of times.
A-N-Y-W-A-Y, here ya go!
[11:10] These are the descendants of Shem. When Shem was one hundred years old, he became the father of Arpachshad two years after the flood;
[11:11] and Shem lived after the birth of Arpachshad five hundred years, and had other sons and daughters.
[11:12] When Arpachshad had lived thirty-five years, he became the father of Shelah;
[11:13] and Arpachshad lived after the birth of Shelah four hundred three years, and had other sons and daughters.
Possible Coordinates: 10.02500 N, 35.400 E
Location: Approx 200 Km NW of Nekemte, Ethiopia
[11:14] When Shelah had lived thirty years, he became the father of Eber;
[11:15] and Shelah lived after the birth of Eber four hundred three years, and had other sons and daughters.
[11:16] When Eber had lived thirty-four years, he became the father of Peleg;
[11:17] and Eber lived after the birth of Peleg four hundred thirty years, and had other sons and daughters.
Possible Coordinates: 30.403 N, 34.430 E
Location: Sinai Peninsula
[11:18] When Peleg had lived thirty years, he became the father of Reu;
[11:19] and Peleg lived after the birth of Reu two hundred nine years, and had other sons and daughters.
[11:20] When Reu had lived thirty-two years, he became the father of Serug;
[11:21] and Reu lived after the birth of Serug two hundred seven years, and had other sons and daughters.
Possible Coordinates 30.209 N, 32.207 E
Location: Egypt
[11:22] When Serug had lived thirty years, he became the father of Nahor;
[11:23] and Serug lived after the birth of Nahor two hundred years, and had other sons and daughters.
[11:24] When Nahor had lived twenty-nine years, he became the father of Terah;
[11:25] and Nahor lived after the birth of Terah one hundred nineteen years, and had other sons and daughters.
[11:26] When Terah had lived seventy years, he became the father of Abram, Nahor, and Haran.
Possible Coordinates: 30.200 N, 29.11970 E
Egypt
A-N-Y-W-A-Y, here ya go!
[11:10] These are the descendants of Shem. When Shem was one hundred years old, he became the father of Arpachshad two years after the flood;
[11:11] and Shem lived after the birth of Arpachshad five hundred years, and had other sons and daughters.
[11:12] When Arpachshad had lived thirty-five years, he became the father of Shelah;
[11:13] and Arpachshad lived after the birth of Shelah four hundred three years, and had other sons and daughters.
Possible Coordinates: 10.02500 N, 35.400 E
Location: Approx 200 Km NW of Nekemte, Ethiopia
[11:14] When Shelah had lived thirty years, he became the father of Eber;
[11:15] and Shelah lived after the birth of Eber four hundred three years, and had other sons and daughters.
[11:16] When Eber had lived thirty-four years, he became the father of Peleg;
[11:17] and Eber lived after the birth of Peleg four hundred thirty years, and had other sons and daughters.
Possible Coordinates: 30.403 N, 34.430 E
Location: Sinai Peninsula
[11:18] When Peleg had lived thirty years, he became the father of Reu;
[11:19] and Peleg lived after the birth of Reu two hundred nine years, and had other sons and daughters.
[11:20] When Reu had lived thirty-two years, he became the father of Serug;
[11:21] and Reu lived after the birth of Serug two hundred seven years, and had other sons and daughters.
Possible Coordinates 30.209 N, 32.207 E
Location: Egypt
[11:22] When Serug had lived thirty years, he became the father of Nahor;
[11:23] and Serug lived after the birth of Nahor two hundred years, and had other sons and daughters.
[11:24] When Nahor had lived twenty-nine years, he became the father of Terah;
[11:25] and Nahor lived after the birth of Terah one hundred nineteen years, and had other sons and daughters.
[11:26] When Terah had lived seventy years, he became the father of Abram, Nahor, and Haran.
Possible Coordinates: 30.200 N, 29.11970 E
Egypt
edit on 26-2-2013 by Toelint because: Lap-over on one word.
Okay; and HERE'S what I found in Genesis chapter Five. Like I said, if after reading, you find ANY errors in the numbers, PLEASE tell me so I can
make my corrections accordingly. Here ya go!
[5:1] This is the list of the descendants of Adam. When God created humankind, he made them in the likeness of God.
[5:2] Male and female he created them, and he blessed them and named them "Humankind" when they were created.
[5:3] When Adam had lived one hundred thirty years, he became the father of a son in his likeness, according to his image, and named him Seth.
[5:4] The days of Adam after he became the father of Seth were eight hundred years; and he had other sons and daughters.
[5:5] Thus all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred thirty years; and he died.
[5:6] When Seth had lived one hundred five years, he became the father of Enosh.
[5:7] Seth lived after the birth of Enosh eight hundred seven years, and had other sons and daughters.
[5:8] Thus all the days of Seth were nine hundred twelve years; and he died.
Possible Coordinates 13.0800930 N, 10.5807912 E
Location: Nigeria
[5:9] When Enosh had lived ninety years, he became the father of Kenan.
[5:10] Enosh lived after the birth of Kenan eight hundred fifteen years, and had other sons and daughters.
[5:11] Thus all the days of Enosh were nine hundred five years; and he died.
[5:12] When Kenan had lived seventy years, he became the father of Mahalalel.
[5:13] Kenan lived after the birth of Mahalalel eight hundred and forty years, and had other sons and daughters.
[5:14] Thus all the days of Kenan were nine hundred and ten years; and he died.
Possible Coordinates 9.0815905 N, 7.0840910 E
Location: 14Km North of Gwagwalada, Nigeria
[5:15] When Mahalalel had lived sixty-five years, he became the father of Jared.
[5:16] Mahalalel lived after the birth of Jared eight hundred thirty years, and had other sons and daughters.
[5:17] Thus all the days of Mahalalel were eight hundred ninety-five years; and he died.
[5:18] When Jared had lived one hundred sixty-two years he became the father of Enoch.
[5:19] Jared lived after the birth of Enoch eight hundred years, and had other sons and daughters.
[5:20] Thus all the days of Jared were nine hundred sixty-two years; and he died.
Possible Coordinates 6.5860895 N, 8.00962 E
Location: Nigeria
[5:21] When Enoch had lived sixty-five years, he became the father of Methuselah.
[5:22] Enoch walked with God after the birth of Methuselah three hundred years, and had other sons and daughters.
[5:23] Thus all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty-five years.
[5:24] Enoch walked with God; then he was no more, because God took him.
[5:25] When Methuselah had lived one hundred eighty-seven years, he became the father of Lamech.
[5:26] Methuselah lived after the birth of Lamech seven hundred eighty- two years, and had other sons and daughters.
[5:27] Thus all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred sixty-nine years; and he died.
Possible Coordinates: 65.300365N 18.7782969 E
Country Location: Sweden
Secondary Location: Central African Republic
[5:28] When Lamech had lived one hundred eighty-two years, he became the father of a son;
[5:29] he named him Noah, saying, "Out of the ground that the LORD has cursed this one shall bring us relief from our work and from the toil of our hands."
[5:30] Lamech lived after the birth of Noah five hundred ninety-five years, and had other sons and daughters.
[5:31] Thus all the days of Lamech were seven hundred seventy-seven years; and he died.
[5:32] After Noah was five hundred years old, Noah became the father of Shem, Ham, and Japheth.
Possible Coordinates: 18.2595777 N, 50.0950 E
Country: Yemen
Three hits in Nigeria? Really? And Sweden?? Then again, who knows what's there!
[5:1] This is the list of the descendants of Adam. When God created humankind, he made them in the likeness of God.
[5:2] Male and female he created them, and he blessed them and named them "Humankind" when they were created.
[5:3] When Adam had lived one hundred thirty years, he became the father of a son in his likeness, according to his image, and named him Seth.
[5:4] The days of Adam after he became the father of Seth were eight hundred years; and he had other sons and daughters.
[5:5] Thus all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred thirty years; and he died.
[5:6] When Seth had lived one hundred five years, he became the father of Enosh.
[5:7] Seth lived after the birth of Enosh eight hundred seven years, and had other sons and daughters.
[5:8] Thus all the days of Seth were nine hundred twelve years; and he died.
Possible Coordinates 13.0800930 N, 10.5807912 E
Location: Nigeria
[5:9] When Enosh had lived ninety years, he became the father of Kenan.
[5:10] Enosh lived after the birth of Kenan eight hundred fifteen years, and had other sons and daughters.
[5:11] Thus all the days of Enosh were nine hundred five years; and he died.
[5:12] When Kenan had lived seventy years, he became the father of Mahalalel.
[5:13] Kenan lived after the birth of Mahalalel eight hundred and forty years, and had other sons and daughters.
[5:14] Thus all the days of Kenan were nine hundred and ten years; and he died.
Possible Coordinates 9.0815905 N, 7.0840910 E
Location: 14Km North of Gwagwalada, Nigeria
[5:15] When Mahalalel had lived sixty-five years, he became the father of Jared.
[5:16] Mahalalel lived after the birth of Jared eight hundred thirty years, and had other sons and daughters.
[5:17] Thus all the days of Mahalalel were eight hundred ninety-five years; and he died.
[5:18] When Jared had lived one hundred sixty-two years he became the father of Enoch.
[5:19] Jared lived after the birth of Enoch eight hundred years, and had other sons and daughters.
[5:20] Thus all the days of Jared were nine hundred sixty-two years; and he died.
Possible Coordinates 6.5860895 N, 8.00962 E
Location: Nigeria
[5:21] When Enoch had lived sixty-five years, he became the father of Methuselah.
[5:22] Enoch walked with God after the birth of Methuselah three hundred years, and had other sons and daughters.
[5:23] Thus all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty-five years.
[5:24] Enoch walked with God; then he was no more, because God took him.
[5:25] When Methuselah had lived one hundred eighty-seven years, he became the father of Lamech.
[5:26] Methuselah lived after the birth of Lamech seven hundred eighty- two years, and had other sons and daughters.
[5:27] Thus all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred sixty-nine years; and he died.
Possible Coordinates: 65.300365N 18.7782969 E
Country Location: Sweden
Secondary Location: Central African Republic
[5:28] When Lamech had lived one hundred eighty-two years, he became the father of a son;
[5:29] he named him Noah, saying, "Out of the ground that the LORD has cursed this one shall bring us relief from our work and from the toil of our hands."
[5:30] Lamech lived after the birth of Noah five hundred ninety-five years, and had other sons and daughters.
[5:31] Thus all the days of Lamech were seven hundred seventy-seven years; and he died.
[5:32] After Noah was five hundred years old, Noah became the father of Shem, Ham, and Japheth.
Possible Coordinates: 18.2595777 N, 50.0950 E
Country: Yemen
Three hits in Nigeria? Really? And Sweden?? Then again, who knows what's there!
Just for grins, here's the dimensions of Noah's Ark, and the days,nights, and the days it took for the waters to recede.
maps.google.com...,+40.40150+E&hl=en&ll=30.050522,40.401707&spn=0.087072,0.110378&sll=45.494576,-114.143261&sspn=9.026632,14.128 418&t=h&z=13
Geographically, it's just a hop-skip-and a jump from Israel. Okay, it's in Saudi Arabia. But what's a town doing out here in the middle of nowhere?
maps.google.com...,+40.40150+E&hl=en&ll=30.050522,40.401707&spn=0.087072,0.110378&sll=45.494576,-114.143261&sspn=9.026632,14.128 418&t=h&z=13
Geographically, it's just a hop-skip-and a jump from Israel. Okay, it's in Saudi Arabia. But what's a town doing out here in the middle of nowhere?
reply to post by EnochWasRight
A very interesting notion! I went and got the GPS coordinates for Los Angeles (34, -118) did some subtraction, came up with 8:4 and got this.:The smoke of the incense, together with the prayers of God's people, went up before God from the angel's.
A very interesting notion! I went and got the GPS coordinates for Los Angeles (34, -118) did some subtraction, came up with 8:4 and got this.:The smoke of the incense, together with the prayers of God's people, went up before God from the angel's.
Are the numbers in the scriptures geo coordinates or "codes" to be uncoded....I highly doubt it, however ALL scriptures are numbers because Hebrew
and Greek are alphanumeric languages.It is not a gnostic'hidden wisdom" code as the Kabalist believe through gematria.The key is in the infamous
Revelation 13:18.
Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for the number is that of MAN man; and his number is six hundred and sixty-six.
notice it is not of "A" man it is man..mankind..the article "a" was added.
The number of mankind is 666..not a mythical beast or antichrist.666 is a VERY prominent number.It is "in" the most important number sequence... the Fibonacci number (Fn)series (no this isn't about the Da Vinci code).It is the sequence that the golden ratio "Phi" is derived from.It is a simple sequence.
0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144,233......to infinity
it is "calculated by adding 2 numbers together to sum to a 3rd.
The "beginning is "1" to calculate the next number the number before it is added to it so..0+1=1...that is where it looks confusing ....yes there are two "1's ....for a VERY good reason!...the rest of the sequence is adding two adjacent numbers together
1+1=2.....1+2=3....2+3=5.....etc....
To calculate Phi.1.618... and phi 0.618....(they are reciprocal numbers and btw... infinite..) divide the adjacent Fn.
1/1=1
1/2=.5
2/1=2
3/2=1.5
2/3=.666
.....
233/144=1.6180555555555555...........
and there it is ...very early in the Fn sequence 2/3.Phi is once Fn13 is divided by Fn12 Phi and phi 1.618.... and 0.618.... the Fn sequence ratios to infinity.... the 1.618....remains constant....that is the golden ratio to "1"...1:1.618.....or 1:0.618
The significance of that is a worlds of libraries full of info.
This is just a small peak inside of the numbers in scriptures peaking out.God has made everything perfectly using this proportion.The irony is it is an irrational number that never resolves and it just goes ON AND ON for infinity.It is in everything from our DNA to spiral galaxies(no coincidence of spirals btw).Here's an "ironic twist and how God reveals and veils the math
The DNA molecule is based on the golden ratio. It measures 34 angstroms long by 21 angstroms wide for each full cycle of its double helix spiral.
34=Fn9 21=Fn8
34/21=1.619,047,619,047,619.047,619,047.......to infinity
this isn't quite Phi and this is how the number is unveiled by the simple process of adding or subtracting "non math numbers"inside"the Fn to sum the number of man
1.619,047,619,047
619+047=666
what are the possibilities of that calculating..and that is just one small example.The Fn sequence ALWAYS adds up.By combining 3 consecutive Fn creates a new Hybrid Fibonacci number that still sums in a sequence!!...btw...a "0"* is added where needed for spaces for the expansion.
ex:
0,1,1,2,3,5,8 become
011,112,123,235,358 etc.......
"0" *
011+112=123
112+123=235
123+235=358
20305+30508=50813*
30508+50813=81321*
5813 +81321=132134
81321+132134=213455
132134+213455=345589
21034055+34055089=55089144*
This also works backwards and with the sister sequence to Fn the Lucas numbers
2,1,3,4,7,11,18,29,47,76,123,199,322....etc....
and yes they still sum to Phi...
89144233/55089144=1.618181487808197
again this is only scratching an atom of the surface.The creator of the Universe has his signature in EVERYTHING.There are no accidents.A last thing to ponder.
John 10:30
I and my Father are one(1).
Fn0=0
Fn1=1
Fn2=1
Fn3=2
Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for the number is that of MAN man; and his number is six hundred and sixty-six.
notice it is not of "A" man it is man..mankind..the article "a" was added.
The number of mankind is 666..not a mythical beast or antichrist.666 is a VERY prominent number.It is "in" the most important number sequence... the Fibonacci number (Fn)series (no this isn't about the Da Vinci code).It is the sequence that the golden ratio "Phi" is derived from.It is a simple sequence.
0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144,233......to infinity
it is "calculated by adding 2 numbers together to sum to a 3rd.
The "beginning is "1" to calculate the next number the number before it is added to it so..0+1=1...that is where it looks confusing ....yes there are two "1's ....for a VERY good reason!...the rest of the sequence is adding two adjacent numbers together
1+1=2.....1+2=3....2+3=5.....etc....
To calculate Phi.1.618... and phi 0.618....(they are reciprocal numbers and btw... infinite..) divide the adjacent Fn.
1/1=1
1/2=.5
2/1=2
3/2=1.5
2/3=.666
.....
233/144=1.6180555555555555...........
and there it is ...very early in the Fn sequence 2/3.Phi is once Fn13 is divided by Fn12 Phi and phi 1.618.... and 0.618.... the Fn sequence ratios to infinity.... the 1.618....remains constant....that is the golden ratio to "1"...1:1.618.....or 1:0.618
The significance of that is a worlds of libraries full of info.
This is just a small peak inside of the numbers in scriptures peaking out.God has made everything perfectly using this proportion.The irony is it is an irrational number that never resolves and it just goes ON AND ON for infinity.It is in everything from our DNA to spiral galaxies(no coincidence of spirals btw).Here's an "ironic twist and how God reveals and veils the math
The DNA molecule is based on the golden ratio. It measures 34 angstroms long by 21 angstroms wide for each full cycle of its double helix spiral.
34=Fn9 21=Fn8
34/21=1.619,047,619,047,619.047,619,047.......to infinity
this isn't quite Phi and this is how the number is unveiled by the simple process of adding or subtracting "non math numbers"inside"the Fn to sum the number of man
1.619,047,619,047
619+047=666
what are the possibilities of that calculating..and that is just one small example.The Fn sequence ALWAYS adds up.By combining 3 consecutive Fn creates a new Hybrid Fibonacci number that still sums in a sequence!!...btw...a "0"* is added where needed for spaces for the expansion.
ex:
0,1,1,2,3,5,8 become
011,112,123,235,358 etc.......
"0" *
011+112=123
112+123=235
123+235=358
20305+30508=50813*
30508+50813=81321*
5813 +81321=132134
81321+132134=213455
132134+213455=345589
21034055+34055089=55089144*
This also works backwards and with the sister sequence to Fn the Lucas numbers
2,1,3,4,7,11,18,29,47,76,123,199,322....etc....
and yes they still sum to Phi...
89144233/55089144=1.618181487808197
again this is only scratching an atom of the surface.The creator of the Universe has his signature in EVERYTHING.There are no accidents.A last thing to ponder.
John 10:30
I and my Father are one(1).
Fn0=0
Fn1=1
Fn2=1
Fn3=2
reply to post by Toelint
I love your idea to find significants in biblical numbers.
I'm a Christian and am very interested in numbers. I stumbled upon a numeric pattern I called mirror matrix. I posted it here on ATS. You will see that I honestly don't know what I'm doing, I just followed a pattern similar to the above post. But found a unique way to make shapes and patterns using numbers in this matrix. We also discuss number tables such as Solfeggio numbers, Vedi square, and Modular Arithmetic.
If you want to take a look at it its here.Abovetopsecret.com
If you get to the last page there is some good link to numbers in the bible. Creation Numbers
Abovetopsecret.com
I love your idea to find significants in biblical numbers.
I'm a Christian and am very interested in numbers. I stumbled upon a numeric pattern I called mirror matrix. I posted it here on ATS. You will see that I honestly don't know what I'm doing, I just followed a pattern similar to the above post. But found a unique way to make shapes and patterns using numbers in this matrix. We also discuss number tables such as Solfeggio numbers, Vedi square, and Modular Arithmetic.
If you want to take a look at it its here.Abovetopsecret.com
If you get to the last page there is some good link to numbers in the bible. Creation Numbers
Abovetopsecret.com
edit on 6-3-2013 by Observationalist because: Added approval
of thread.
reply to post by Observationalist
Hey, just came back from your page! Pretty awesome stuff!! Going back there now!
Hey, just came back from your page! Pretty awesome stuff!! Going back there now!
reply to post by Rex282
An interesting observation! Just for grins, I took your value of phi and pi, converted them to coordinates, and came up with a location only fifteen miles off the coast of Libya, in the Gulf of Sirti. I also took your numbers of 233 and 144 and came up with a location about fifty miles northeast from where Libya, Chad, and Niger meet. Any bets on what might be there?
An interesting observation! Just for grins, I took your value of phi and pi, converted them to coordinates, and came up with a location only fifteen miles off the coast of Libya, in the Gulf of Sirti. I also took your numbers of 233 and 144 and came up with a location about fifty miles northeast from where Libya, Chad, and Niger meet. Any bets on what might be there?
edit on 9-3-2013 by Toelint because: Added additional information.
Originally posted by Observationalist
reply to post by Toelint
I'm a Christian and am very interested in numbers. I stumbled upon a numeric pattern I called mirror matrix. I posted it here on ATS. You will see that I honestly don't know what I'm doing, I just followed a pattern similar to the above post.
The above is not a pattern I created.Like I said it is the Fibonacci sequence that Leonard(Bigollo) of Pisa wrote of in his 1202 book Liber Abaci.He wasn't the "discover" of it either it could be traced back to India a few thousand years.
This math isn't to decode the scripture or numerology to "decode" prophecy or predict the future or anything else..there is no way to "break" the code in scriptures because there is no code..The meaning behind the math is creation..what EVERYTHING is made from God the Father and God the Son Yahweh/Yahshua....Yahshua said.
my words are spirit and truth.This is what he was speaking of.Math is the perfect language.It IS what it IS even if someone doesn't understand the infinite complex possibilities of connections or what it does or how it is implemented.It is the most accurate expression of the infinite complexity of God we can begin to understand.
The Fibonacci sequence is ALL through the scriptures.The focal point is the parable of the soil and seed ....the parable that ALL parables are known by....It is the "meaning" of the words and the sum of the words(numbers)...that is the double edged sword ... one edge kills (the letter of the Law) the other gives life(2 Cor 3:6) .They work together without ANY help from man.They are what they are ...The "I AM THAT I AM"..self sufficient and existent
.
The parable of the seed and the soil culminates with the the Seed (Yahshua..the word/number of God )when sown in good soil produces 30, 60, 100 fold.
That is a Fibonacci sequence.The Fibonacci sequence and Phi are the basis of how things are created and grow and mankind is no different.30 and 60 reduce to the lowest common denominators 1 and 2 respectively which are Fn2 and Fn3.....60 and 100 reduce to 3 and 5 ..which are Fn4 and Fn5.Then 60+100=160 which 160 reduces to 8 ...Fn6 and so goes on to infinity continuously growing.
0,1,1,2,3,5,8......
5 is a key number.It and Fn1=1 are the only two Fn that their Fn is the same as their number value.
Fn1=1
Fn5=5
btw
Fn10=55
5+5=10
the most common formula for calculating Phi is calculating the square root( √)of 5.The square root is the number that is multiplied by itself to equal another number.
The formula for calculating Phi:
√5 plus 1 divided by 2
√5=2.23606797749979
2.23606797749979+1=3.23606797749979
3.23606797749979/2=1.61803398874895
This is the "official" Phi even though Phi is an irrational number (infinite) and variates after .618 depending on the numbers used to calculate the ratio.As the FN grow larger their ratio moves closer to Phi. but the constant is 1.618.It has other very definite quality's
When Phi is multiplied by itself or squared (²) +1..It is the the same to the 13 th place.This is the only number that does this.
1.61803398874895 X 1.61803398874895=2.61803398874837
The square root of 5 minus Phi is equal to phi(the reciprocal) to the 11th place.
2.23606797749979-1.61803398874895=0.61803398875084
144,000 is in the scriptures only in revelation.It is not a quantity of people it is a quality.It is no coincidence 144 is the 12th Fn.It is also the only Fn besides Fn1(1) that its number is its square root.
12x12=144
(side note)...Every 12th Fn when all of it's digits are added are a multiple of 9.None of the other Fn do this.I've calculated this up to FN300 where the number is HUGE..
When calculating Phi and phi with Fn .....Fn13/Fn12 is the 1st place 1.618 becomes constant
Phi=233/144=1.618.055555555555555.......
Fn11/Fn12
phi=89/144=0.6180555555555555555.....
thousand isn't in relationship to 144 as in 144,000.....it is Phi+phi..Phi is the 21st(which is Fn8) letter in the Greek alphabet.It is equal to 500
Upper case Phi=500
lower case phi=500
500+500=1,000
144 Phi/phi is the first fruits of Rev 14. They are the 1st to mature to Phi /phi the ratio (relationship) of "1" to Phi...1:1.618.... 1:0.618
"1" is the Father AND the Son.
Fn1=1 The Father
Fn2=1 The Son
The Father and I are ONE.This is the new name written on the 144 Phi/phi head(symbolic)...notice it just came from Rev 13:18 the number of the beast of mankind 666(Fn3/Fn4) It is the 1st mark on man.Yahshuas(Jesus) name Iesous in Greek is=888. ..Fn21....repeat triple digit numbers are very significant.888 is the name above ALL names.
666 is not an "evil number it is very closely tied to 888 and 144...and are to numerous to start to write of.
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a tidbit on 6
6 is the first "magic number it sums the 1st 3 numbers by addition and multiplication
1+2+3=6
1x2x3=6
6+6+6=18
18+18=36
1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+12+13+14+15+16+17+18+19+20+21+22+23+24+25+26+27+8+29+30+3132+33+34+35+36=666
which creates a the magic square of 36 111..
6x6x6=216
36x2=72
72+72=144
144+72=216
666sin= -0.8,090,169,943,374,947
144cos= -0.8,090,169,943,374,947
666cos= 0.587,785,252,292,473
144sin= 0.587,785,252,292,473
of course this is only a scratch of the surface.God has created everything by His word and the words are number.Luckily most people are not interested in cold numbers so they are not tempted to worship them ..as much....trying to decipher a code is futile.Yes all numbers mean something and there is a season fro them to be unveiled and have a purpose.The Numerologist and Cabalist are reading into the numbers of scripture and building altars(metaphorical) to them the same way the religion/ religionist read "into" the written words of scripture and make traditions of men.
IMO they are there because the Are what they are...an equation of everything which the scriptures are just the foundation stone.The other numbers of the equation are completely hidden.The numbers in the scriptures like 666 and 144 that are "written" are like mountains extending from the landscape pointing to things even higher.
Yes one day they will be unveiled even more and will change the world.I believe we are moving very close to that right now.I believe The Pyramid of Giza will be the catalyst.It is the most mathematical structure on the planet that has stood the test of time.The mystery of it's perfection is astounding. Until man is cleansed and cured of religion (the worship of words as God including psychology ,philosophy and science) it will remain a mystery..and no I do not believe it was built (or helped ) by our "ancient" brothers from another mother in outer space.Pure fantasy just as the book of Revelation has been degraded to by mans foolish mind.
I believe it is much simpler than we are making the whole thing out and infinitely more complex.God isn't seeking worshippers he is making sons.It is ALL part of the infinite equation of salvation/deliverance /change (Yahshua) for EVERYTHING.The numbers all add up perfectly.Not one is out of place.They are not for prognostication or prophecies or any of that other foolishness of man.In a sense it's sit back and enjoy the show.It hasn't even begun yet!!
6 is the first "magic number it sums the 1st 3 numbers by addition and multiplication
1+2+3=6
1x2x3=6
6+6+6=18
18+18=36
1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+12+13+14+15+16+17+18+19+20+21+22+23+24+25+26+27+8+29+30+3132+33+34+35+36=666
which creates a the magic square of 36 111..
6x6x6=216
36x2=72
72+72=144
144+72=216
666sin= -0.8,090,169,943,374,947
144cos= -0.8,090,169,943,374,947
666cos= 0.587,785,252,292,473
144sin= 0.587,785,252,292,473
of course this is only a scratch of the surface.God has created everything by His word and the words are number.Luckily most people are not interested in cold numbers so they are not tempted to worship them ..as much....trying to decipher a code is futile.Yes all numbers mean something and there is a season fro them to be unveiled and have a purpose.The Numerologist and Cabalist are reading into the numbers of scripture and building altars(metaphorical) to them the same way the religion/ religionist read "into" the written words of scripture and make traditions of men.
IMO they are there because the Are what they are...an equation of everything which the scriptures are just the foundation stone.The other numbers of the equation are completely hidden.The numbers in the scriptures like 666 and 144 that are "written" are like mountains extending from the landscape pointing to things even higher.
Yes one day they will be unveiled even more and will change the world.I believe we are moving very close to that right now.I believe The Pyramid of Giza will be the catalyst.It is the most mathematical structure on the planet that has stood the test of time.The mystery of it's perfection is astounding. Until man is cleansed and cured of religion (the worship of words as God including psychology ,philosophy and science) it will remain a mystery..and no I do not believe it was built (or helped ) by our "ancient" brothers from another mother in outer space.Pure fantasy just as the book of Revelation has been degraded to by mans foolish mind.
I believe it is much simpler than we are making the whole thing out and infinitely more complex.God isn't seeking worshippers he is making sons.It is ALL part of the infinite equation of salvation/deliverance /change (Yahshua) for EVERYTHING.The numbers all add up perfectly.Not one is out of place.They are not for prognostication or prophecies or any of that other foolishness of man.In a sense it's sit back and enjoy the show.It hasn't even begun yet!!
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reply to post by Rex282
That was amazing thanks.
Yah, it was a pattern to me because I didn't know about the acctual mathematics behind it.
I simply took the number 10 and made it a 1 by adding the digits. So 11 became 2 and 13 became 4.
I put it down on a spreadsheet and made the mirrored table or matrix.
I hope you check it out, I would love to see what you have to say with your extensive mathematical insight.
There is some discussion about Pi being wrong too. abovetopsecret.com
I agree
And this
Great post, thank you.
That was amazing thanks.
Yah, it was a pattern to me because I didn't know about the acctual mathematics behind it.
I simply took the number 10 and made it a 1 by adding the digits. So 11 became 2 and 13 became 4.
I put it down on a spreadsheet and made the mirrored table or matrix.
I hope you check it out, I would love to see what you have to say with your extensive mathematical insight.
There is some discussion about Pi being wrong too. abovetopsecret.com
I agree
Math is the perfect language.It IS what it IS even if someone doesn't understand the infinite complex possibilities of connections or what it does or how it is implemented.It is the most accurate expression of the infinite complexity of God we can begin to understand.
And this
of course this is only a scratch of the surface.God has created everything by His word and the words are number.Luckily most people are not interested in cold numbers so they are not tempted to worship them ..as much....trying to decipher a code is futile.Yes all numbers mean something and there is a season fro them to be unveiled and have a purpose.The Numerologist and Cabalist are reading into the numbers of scripture and building altars(metaphorical) to them the same way the religion/ religionist read "into" the written words of scripture and make traditions of men.
Great post, thank you.
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reply to post by Toelint
Excellent find and keep up the quest!
There is much good information given to you from Enoch Was Right, LuckyLucien,
Observationalist, Rex282 and of course your own findings.
The key is to use ALL the information to find what is not only below you,
but as above also.
To parody lyrics from Neil Young's song 'Powderfinger' -
"...numbers add up to nothin'."
Excellent find and keep up the quest!
There is much good information given to you from Enoch Was Right, LuckyLucien,
Observationalist, Rex282 and of course your own findings.
The key is to use ALL the information to find what is not only below you,
but as above also.
To parody lyrics from Neil Young's song 'Powderfinger' -
"...numbers add up to nothin'."
edit on 10-3-2013 by HumAnnunaki because: add video
Originally posted by Observationalist
reply to post by Rex282
That was amazing thanks.
Yah, it was a pattern to me because I didn't know about the acctual mathematics behind it.
I simply took the number 10 and made it a 1 by adding the digits. So 11 became 2 and 13 became 4.
I put it down on a spreadsheet and made the mirrored table or matrix.
I hope you check it out, I would love to see what you have to say with your extensive mathematical insight.
There is some discussion about Pi being wrong too. abovetopsecret.com
Thanks...yes .'Ive checked out part of it(thers alot of info).I didn't read any of that type stuff when I started calculating and the same patterns are there.I completely agree with Tesla 3,6,9 are they keys .There are patterns everywhere.I believe it is connecting them to something that has a practical and real world application such as the Fibonacci sequence and Phi and Pi then branch off from there.I am not a mathematician so I have as much insight of the intellect of math as any layman however I'm a positive this is the foundation..and The BUILDING.
The Lucas numbers (Ln)are an example it is another additive sequence lie the Fibonacci and is actually born from it!
they start on 2 instead of zero
2,1,3,4,7,11,18,29,47,76,123,199,322.......
the "zero number is used to sum the 2nd Ln(3) thats why it looks odd.
adding two Fn equals a Ln in this pattern
Fn5+Fn7=Ln6
05+13=18
they work backwards also
the lower numbers need a zero to move a place so
50= 5
13=31
18=81
50+31=81
I've found this to be very common.No I do not beleive at all it is of satan(the adversary, accuser) EVERYTHING is of Gods creation.He is the mind behind them satan creates nothing nor can it manipulate them.
as I said triplet numbers have a unique non math pattern also.
I squared them then added the "grouped digits to a sum.This is the result.
111x111=12,321=12+321=333
222x222=49,284=49+284=333
333x333=110,889=110+889=999
444x444=197,136=197+136=333
555x555=308,025=308+25=333
666x666=443,556=443+556=999
777x777=603,729=603+729=1332/2=666
888x888=788,544=788+544=1332/2=666
999x999=998,001=998+1=999
there are some interesting sums backwards also but more complex some are blatant
111x111=12,321=12+321
12+321=21+123=144
also
12,321x12,321=151,807,041
151+807+041=999
or
123+321=444
234+432=666
345+543=888
etc
444+666+888=1998/2=999
111+333+555=999
222+444+666=1332/2=666
333+555+777=1665..999+666
555+777+999=2331
2331=1332
and on and on....
btw 21=Fn8 123=Ln10
12 is "1" less than Fn7 and "1" more than Ln 5
321 is one less than Ln12
notice also 12,321 is a palindrome number... the same forward and backwards
-------------------------------------
666x666=443,556=443+556=999
443+556=344+655=999
888x888=788,544=788+544=1332/2=666
788+544=887+445=1332/2=666
443,556+788,544=1,232,100
this goes on and one with mirrored numbers all summing to multiple of 999,or 666 like 1332,1665,1998 ...they are ALL connected.
144 was inspired by God to John for a reason.666 is the number of the beast of man for a reason.Yahshua was translated to Iesous(888) for a reason .They all connect in logical and seeming illogical(the above) ways.
Thanks again I'm looking into those links more.
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I don't know about anyone else but I think we can at least star and flag OPs thread. Ya OP at the very least you seem to be one to something.
I don't know about anyone else but I think we can at least star and flag OPs thread. Ya OP at the very least you seem to be one to something.
reply to post by Rex282
I found this connection to tripple numbers with the number 37. I had been slightly obsessed with the number 37 growing up as it seemed to appeared everywhere, but when I played around with the calculator I got the following.
Multiply 37 by any number divisible by 3 and get a triple digit or a mirror number in the case of 33
37x3 = 111
37x6 = 222
37x9 = 333
37x12 = 444
37x15 = 555
37x18 = 666
37x21 = 777
37x24 = 888
37x27 = 999
37x30 = 1110
37x33 = 1221
The sequence continues with various significants. at 66 you get a second mirror number 2442
If you add the triple didgits together, you will get 3 6 9 repeated.
111=3
222=6
333=9
444=12=3
555=15=6
666=18=9
It continues like that forever I guess.
The number three may be significant because of the Trinity, and seven because of Gods seven days of creation.
is there a bigger significants? Who knows, Is it a key to understanding Gods creation? Not sure how to find out.
But one thing I have learned from my little experiment, is that in math we can observe Gods perfection, his symmetry, thourougness, and infinite capabilities.
Edit: I just took the 12321 number and divided it by 37, I got 333
reply to post by HumAnnunaki
Thanks, I would have to add CoyotePoet, as a good source for a common sense approach to numerology.
Along with MaryRose who research on Marko Rodin is laid out on this this Thread
reply to post by randyvs
Cool Randy's here, I was going to post something about this in your coincidence thread.
I agree the OP is on to something, I was asked during the Sandy Hook thing to look into the coordinates of the shootings using my matrix to see if there was any predictability. I honestly didn't know where to start. I didn't have time to work it out, business picked up. But if there is a way to look at locations and find some pattern of predictability, that would be cool.
I found this connection to tripple numbers with the number 37. I had been slightly obsessed with the number 37 growing up as it seemed to appeared everywhere, but when I played around with the calculator I got the following.
Multiply 37 by any number divisible by 3 and get a triple digit or a mirror number in the case of 33
37x3 = 111
37x6 = 222
37x9 = 333
37x12 = 444
37x15 = 555
37x18 = 666
37x21 = 777
37x24 = 888
37x27 = 999
37x30 = 1110
37x33 = 1221
The sequence continues with various significants. at 66 you get a second mirror number 2442
If you add the triple didgits together, you will get 3 6 9 repeated.
111=3
222=6
333=9
444=12=3
555=15=6
666=18=9
It continues like that forever I guess.
The number three may be significant because of the Trinity, and seven because of Gods seven days of creation.
is there a bigger significants? Who knows, Is it a key to understanding Gods creation? Not sure how to find out.
But one thing I have learned from my little experiment, is that in math we can observe Gods perfection, his symmetry, thourougness, and infinite capabilities.
Edit: I just took the 12321 number and divided it by 37, I got 333
reply to post by HumAnnunaki
Thanks, I would have to add CoyotePoet, as a good source for a common sense approach to numerology.
Along with MaryRose who research on Marko Rodin is laid out on this this Thread
reply to post by randyvs
Cool Randy's here, I was going to post something about this in your coincidence thread.
I agree the OP is on to something, I was asked during the Sandy Hook thing to look into the coordinates of the shootings using my matrix to see if there was any predictability. I honestly didn't know where to start. I didn't have time to work it out, business picked up. But if there is a way to look at locations and find some pattern of predictability, that would be cool.
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given)
Originally posted by Observationalist
reply to post by HumAnnunaki
Thanks, I would have to add CoyotePoet, as a good source for a common sense approach to numerology.
Along with MaryRose who research on Marko Rodin is laid out on this this Thread
Thank you for the LINKS Observationalist -
My mind doesn't reciprocate math very well I ashamed to admit,
although it does make up for it in other ways as I was eluding to in
my earlier cryptic post.
I have read some of Rodin's works and am currently trying to digest Walter Issacson's
biographical version to Einstein and his Special Theory of Relativety; but what I truely find
interesting is the work of (kudos to E.W.R.'s link:up Carl Munck whom I've been studying
for the last few years due to my incessant fascination with Ancient man.
Agian I thank you...be well.
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