Long applause for Pope Benedict

reply to post by windword

Moses wasn't an alien, don't be ridiculous.

reply to post by NewAgeMan


Do you even read what I post?

I never said that Moses was an alien. This is what I said:

There are some serious and contradictory implications with the story of the Great Flood of the Bible if Noah himself was also a Nephilim.

Are angels aliens? Were the Nephilim aliens? I can't say, and never did.

The Book of Enoch seems to infer that Noah was a Nephilim:

5. And he said unto him: 'I have begotten a strange son, diverse from and unlike man, and resembling the sons of the God of heaven; and his nature is different and he is not like us, and his eyes are as the rays of the sun, and his countenance is glorious. 6. And it seems to me that he is not sprung from me but from the angels, and I fear that in his days a wonder may be wrought on the earth.

Fact is, if Noah was a Nephilim, then we all are, including Jesus.




By the way, Noah married Enoch's daughter.

reply to post by windword

Could you provide the scriptural reference for that - how interesting..

Originally posted by NewAgeMan
reply to post by windword

 

Could you provide the scriptural reference for that - how interesting..

Sure!

Jasher 5:15 And thou shalt raise up seed, and thy children with thee, in the midst of the earth; and Noah went and took a wife, and he chose Naamah the daughter of Enoch, and she was five hundred and eighty years old. 16 And Noah was four hundred and ninety-eight years old, when he took Naamah for a wife.
www.sacred-texts.com...

Maybe you meant this:

www.sacred-texts.com...

Originally posted by windword


You can belive they were aliens, or not, it doesn't matter. The Bible says what it says, and it says the same thing that the Book of Enoch says.

Same goes for you.

Isn't Moses credited with writing the first 5 books of the Bible? If he wasn't familiar with Enoch, where did he get this?

1) You're begging the question
2) Being familiar with Enoch is not the same as being familiar with the Book of Enoch. Evidence shows that the Book of Enoch was written around 1000 years after Moses lived.
3) I do not believe Moses wrote the first 5 books of the Bible

Of course Moses was aware of the teachings of Enoch.

No, it's not "of course."

reply to post by NewAgeMan


Here is another link to the Book of Enoch, in which the Book of Noah is part. Scroll down to page 50.

www.forbiddengate.com...

reply to post by LazarusTsiyr


Well then, it's just a matter of opinion between how you and I interpret the story. Personally, I'm not a Christian and I view the Bible as stories of mythology and don't take any of it literally.

As far as books go, all historical knowledge was most probably handed down verabally, as through song, like the Song of Moses, Deuteronomy Chapter 32. en.wikipedia.org...

I do, however, tend to lean more toward the Ancient Alien theories as opposed to the god of the Old Testament actually being the GOD and creator of the universe as is claimed.

Originally posted by LazarusTsiyr

Originally posted by JrDavis


And you think Christianity wasn't a pagan adaption lolol.

Depends. Modern Christianity? Christianity after the pagan emperor Constantine took it and perverted it and made it into the state religion of his empire? Sure. The original message that is found in the Scriptures? The true untampered teachings of Yehoshuah ha'Mashiach as found in the Scriptures? No.

BTW, the word is "adaptation." Next time a non-condescending comment would probably serve you better.

However, His name is Jesus. "Shu(ah)" is an Egyptian god.

YAY! I will applaud when they give up their secrets and are held accountable for their actions.

Oh... and I also want all of their books from the library.

May the Essenes rule!

I applaud his resignation and really cannot understand he fuss made about it.

I may (and actually) disagree with many things that he stands for but - for me - all humans have a right to retire and take it easy in their later years whether they are Alex Ferguson, Yasser Arafat or the Pope,

It just feels common decency for the pope to be able to take it easy in his very short later years.

Originally posted by windword
reply to post by LazarusTsiyr

 

Well then, it's just a matter of opinion between how you and I interpret the story. Personally, I'm not a Christian and I view the Bible as stories of mythology and don't take any of it literally.

Well not to pick on you (and I really hope it doesn't seem like that. If it does, I sincerely apologize), but it seems like you are playing both sides of the fence. What I mean is you say you think it's all myth but then you are also arguing that Moses and Jesus and others were familiar with the Book of Enoch. So were they or is it just a bunch of myths?

I do, however, tend to lean more toward the Ancient Alien theories as opposed to the god of the Old Testament actually being the GOD and creator of the universe as is claimed.

LOL While ancient astronaut theory is definitely interesting, that takes a large amount of faith to believe in also.

Originally posted by truejew


However, His name is Jesus. "Shu(ah)" is an Egyptian god.

I hope you are joking. Jesus is the English translation based on the Latin translation based on the Greek translation. That was NOT his name. That's the name bestowed upon him by the pagan-influenced Catholic church. In Hebrew his name was Yehoshuah.

reply to post by LazarusTsiyr

Oh no, you have no idea what you're into now. Best of luck, in the name of Jesus..

Originally posted by LazarusTsiyr

Originally posted by truejew


However, His name is Jesus. "Shu(ah)" is an Egyptian god.

I hope you are joking. Jesus is the English translation based on the Latin translation based on the Greek translation. That was NOT his name. That's the name bestowed upon him by the pagan-influenced Catholic church. In Hebrew his name was Yehoshuah.

In Hebrew, His name is spelt Yehshas and is pronounced the same as we pronounce Jesus. The name comes from two Hebrew words, Yeh and osha and means I AM is our deliverer.

reply to post by NewAgeMan


I'm afraid I don't catch your meaning.

Originally posted by truejew


In Hebrew, His name is spelt Yehshas and is pronounced the same as we pronounce Jesus. The name comes from two Hebrew words, Yeh and osha and means I AM is our deliverer.

I'm not sure who you are used to talking to but I know how it's spelled in the Hebrew and how it's pronounced and it's not pronounced like how we pronounce Jesus at all. And it means "Yah is my salvation." And it's not related to the Egyptian deity Shu.

Originally posted by LazarusTsiyr

Originally posted by truejew


In Hebrew, His name is spelt Yehshas and is pronounced the same as we pronounce Jesus. The name comes from two Hebrew words, Yeh and osha and means I AM is our deliverer.

I'm not sure who you are used to talking to but I know how it's spelled in the Hebrew and how it's pronounced and it's not pronounced like how we pronounce Jesus at all. And it means "Yah is my salvation." And it's not related to the Egyptian deity Shu.

Your info comes from a Judaism that has been perverted by Babylonian customs and which hates the only saving name of Jesus. "Yah" is the name of the Egyptian moon god. Yah has no relation to Yeh.

The name of Jesus comes from the Old Testament.

Originally posted by LazarusTsiyr
reply to post by NewAgeMan

 

I'm afraid I don't catch your meaning.

Your ensuing debate with truejew.

Originally posted by windword
By the way, Noah married Enoch's daughter.

She must have been hot, given the description of Enoch her father.

5. And he said unto him: 'I have begotten a strange son, diverse from and unlike man, and resembling the sons of the God of heaven; and his nature is different and he is not like us, and his eyes are as the rays of the sun, and his countenance is glorious. 6. And it seems to me that he is not sprung from me but from the angels, and I fear that in his days a wonder may be wrought on the earth.

Originally posted by truejew

Your info comes from a Judaism that has been perverted by Babylonian customs and which hates the only saving name of Jesus.

Wrong again, but thanks for constantly falsely assuming things about me. I don't get down with Judaism which is indeed a false pagan-influenced invention.

The name Jesus doesn't save. His TRUE name in Hebrew is what saves. If you went back to New Testament times and said "Jesus" they wouldn't have any idea what you were talking about. They'd probably think you were invoking Zeus.

The name of Jesus comes from the Old Testament

No, Jesus comes from the Catholic church. It is nothing more than a translation of the original Hebrew name. It is not His true name.