Sin no more

In, I believe, John 8 there is a story of a woman that is accused of adultery and is about to be judged on her actions. Jesus tells the accusers > he that is without sin cast the first stone. They all end up leaving the scene. Then Jesus ends up telling her to > sin no more.

I have been pondering this lately. I interpret it to mean that we shouldn't judge other individuals because of their sin. It is not our job. When faced with someone who commits sin we should understand that they still have time to repent for what they have done until their heart has beat its last beat. When an individual commits a sin they can still reflect on what they have done and can be healed.

So when faced with an individual that sins should we judge or simply say "sin no more". I vote the latter.

reply to post by mojo2012


Judge not, that ye be not judged.

2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.


Sounds about right

reply to post by mojo2012

I interpret it to mean that we shouldn't judge other individuals

You kind of contradict yourself when you say this and it doesn't make sense to me what you are getting at.
You are saying we shouldn't judge and then asking if we should judge.

So when faced with an individual that sins should we judge or simply say "sin no more". I vote the latter.

I always say worry about yourself and let others be who they want without prejudice.

Don't judge others,religion has a history of doing that and it doesn't seem to make sense or pan out in real life and it makes the person judging look small and petty.
Look yourself in the mirror...thats all you have to worry about and judge.
When I meet my maker....what you did in your lifetime is going to be the farthest thing from my mind,what i did in mine is going to be what I am thinking about.

That story has always been confusing because up to that point the people were just doing what GOD told them to do.in the OT the people were told by god to take adulterers to the city gate and stone them to death.
They weren`t judging her, they caught her in the act of adultery and were just doing what god told them do with all adulterers.
if they didn`t stone her then they would be in disobedience to god.

Leviticus 20:10 "If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death."

Then this jesus dude comes along hundreds of years later and tells them that only sinless people are allowed to do what god told them to do?

if they didnt stone her then they were in disobedience to god, if they did stone her then they were in disobedience to god (jesus)?
Thats very confusing.


here he is setting a precedence and saying that you don`t have to ask for forgiveness. he is saying that if no sinless person condemns you for your sin then he won`t condemn you either.
since there are no sinless people then nobody can be condemned of anything by other people or by jesus.

Jesus stood up and said to her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?” 11 She said, “No one, Lord.” And Jesus said, j“Neither do I condemn you; go, and from now on ksin no more.”

reply to post by Tardacus


Disobeying a false God isn't disobedience

Jesus knew the true God, and what he wanted from us...

Jesus Vs The imposter

Originally posted by DrumsRfun
reply to post by mojo2012

 

I interpret it to mean that we shouldn't judge other individuals

You kind of contradict yourself when you say this and it doesn't make sense to me what you are getting at.
You are saying we shouldn't judge and then asking if we should judge.

edit on 18-2-2013 by DrumsRfun because: (no reason given)

Just as the accusers in the story had a choice to judge so do you. They could have easily forgiven her for her faults and told her to sin no more.

What I am getting at is that we live in a world that judges all the time. One of the job titles in this world is JUDGE. Am i to judge others for judging? Nope. But i assure you they will have their reward.

Have you ever heard of individuals getting pulled over and then the cop just tells them to slow down and let's them go?

That is the same point I'm getting at.

If someone steals > sin no more
If someone commits adultery > sin no more
If someone commits a sin > sin no more
....etc

Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by Tardacus

 

Disobeying a false God isn't disobedience

Jesus knew the true God, and what he wanted from us...

Jesus Vs The imposter

so your saying that the god of the old testament was a false god and that everything in the old testament is false including the 10 commandments and the adam and eve story?

Originally posted by Tardacus

Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by Tardacus

 

Disobeying a false God isn't disobedience

Jesus knew the true God, and what he wanted from us...

Jesus Vs The imposter

so your saying that the god of the old testament was a false god and that everything in the old testament is false including the 10 commandments and the adam and eve story?

There are hints of the true God in the OT... Mostly found in the psalms, and proverbs

And yes, the adam and eve story is a myth... an allegorical story.

Read the link... and I have plenty more if you're interested...

reply to post by Akragon

Disobeying a false God isn't disobedience

Thats the problem with religions....everyone claims they know and everyone else is worshiping a "false" god if you are not worshiping what they say to worship.
Its not a lottery.

Everyone's beliefs are valid...but only valid to them,when people start acting like they now whats right for others...they shoot themselves in the foot,especially when talking poo about other religions.

I was in church once when the guy started talking smack about how Muslims didn't pray to the real god....I got up and left and never thought about going back ever again.

I don't go to church anymore and have abandoned religion because of this...it made me sick.

Its called faith for a reason.

Originally posted by mojo2012
I interpret it to mean that we shouldn't judge other individuals because of their sin. It is not our job.

What it means is that EVERYONE is guilty of SOMETHING so don't be a hypocrite.

reply to post by DrumsRfun


You can find the truth by looking for contradiction...

Material from God does not contradict itself... and only one man in history knew the true God

reply to post by Akragon

and only one man in history knew the true God

Thats your faith...thats not fact to me...its fact to you and your faith....different ballgame my friend.

Originally posted by Akragon
... and only one man in history knew the true God

Yes, I did, I do and I am.

reply to post by DrumsRfun


No argument there...

Just trying to help out

Originally posted by Akragon

Originally posted by Tardacus

Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by Tardacus

 

Disobeying a false God isn't disobedience

Jesus knew the true God, and what he wanted from us...

Jesus Vs The imposter

so your saying that the god of the old testament was a false god and that everything in the old testament is false including the 10 commandments and the adam and eve story?

There are hints of the true God in the OT... Mostly found in the psalms, and proverbs

And yes, the adam and eve story is a myth... an allegorical story.

Read the link... and I have plenty more if you're interested...

edit on 18-2-2013 by Akragon because: (no reason given)

That`s always been another very confusing thing about the bible the new testament is all about love and forgiveness and the old testament is all about revenge, kill , maim, mutilate destroy in the name of god.
if the OT and NT weren`t printed and bound between the covers of the same book nobody would ever believe that both books were talking about the same god.

reply to post by Tardacus

That`s always been another very confusing thing about the bible the new testament is all about love and forgiveness and the old testament is all about revenge, kill , maim, mutilate destroy in the name of god.

I can't believe i am in this forum.


The old testament was about prophesy,the new testament is about those prophesies coming true is how it was explained to me.
How the heck did I get into this?

reply to post by Tardacus


True...

Christians consider It one book... when they obviously know it was many many books compiled over hundreds of years...

I believe the gnostics had it right... they believed the OT God was a lesser God posing as the Father of creation... likely one of the reasons why they were exterminated and most of their writings were destroyed.

Wouldn't want to let that little secret out... that would ruin the control they had on the populous

Though since 1948, and the invention of the internet... the OT God can't hide within the pages of said book anymore...

Originally posted by DrumsRfun
reply to post by Tardacus

 

That`s always been another very confusing thing about the bible the new testament is all about love and forgiveness and the old testament is all about revenge, kill , maim, mutilate destroy in the name of god.

I can't believe i am in this forum.

The old testament was about prophesy,the new testament is about those prophesies coming true is how it was explained to me.
How the heck did I get into this?

huh?

noooo there are plenty of stories in the OT that have nothing to do with prophecy, there are stories about all the wars and fighting that god sent them to do.

so you think that stories like the one about jericho and david and golith were just prophecies in the OT but actually happened in the NT?
if those stories actually happened in the NT then jesus should went and killed golith, put a voodoo spell on him and turn him into a loaf of bread or something.

reply to post by Tardacus


I don't know man....I am not a biblical scholar.
The David and Goliath story sure woulda made a kick ass bully gets owned video though.


I see it as a game of telephone....things get lost in translation and in history.

reply to post by mojo2012


and finally someone reached to this point that stoning is a law of Christianity and Judaism not just Islam !
stoning has very hard conditions so that it is more like a symbolic law than something for implementing.
it is for adultery in the public. the exact adultery intercourse in the public ! and Jesus did not implement stoning because there were not enough witnesses. that case was not adultery intercourse in the public !!!

I prefer the latter too. all real monotheistic religions prefer the latter too !