The Road To Guantanamo

reply to post by rockymcgilicutty


No but in the reverse it appears to make things justifiable in YOUR book.

You are a classic example of that which you claim to be against.

Nothing will ever change with this kind of attitude.

reply to post by ParasuvO

I admit, I didn't read the entire thread here, so blast away at me at will, enjoy it.

In the event these three guys actually lived through the atrocities at Guantanamo, then they should be grateful....they should thank bush, cuz if obama was in office they'd be dead

Originally posted by rockymcgilicutty
reply to post by purplemer

 

Go back through other terrorist attack's , how long should we have put up with it?

I thought you would show up.The following is a list of other attacks that we didn;t do much about.Now go back and claim all these were false flag's.Or better yet justifie them.How about you get your head's out of you a$$es and see the big picture?When you are attacked you fight back or...

1983 bombing of U.S Embassy Beirut.
1983 bombing of marine barracks Beirut
1983 bombing of U.S embassy Kuwait
1984 kidnap torture of Willian F Buckley died after 15 months of torture
1984 bombing of restaurant near air force base spain
1984 bombing of U.S embassy annex Beirut
1984 Hijacking of Kuwait flight 221 to Iran 2 American'a murdered
1985 highjacking of TWA 874 American Murdered and dumped on tarmac
1985 hijacking of Achille Lauro wheel chair bound American thrown overboard and killed
1985 bombing of Vienna and Rome airports 5 americans among dead
1986 bombing of La Belle disco Berlin
1988 Kidnapping torture, and murder of Lt Col William Higgins, while serving for U.N peacekeppers Lebanon
1988 Bombing of Pan Am 103 Lockerbie hundreds murdered
1992 bombing of Hotel Aden Yemen target Marine peacekeppers
1993 first bombing of world trade center
1993 Foiled N.Y Landmark Plot to blow up Holland and Lincoln tunnels
1993 Attempted Assassination of Bush Sr. Kuwait
1994 plot to assassinate Clinton in Philippines
1995 failed project Bojinka Ramzi Yousef plot to blow up u.s airplanes over Pacific
1995 bombing of U.S Military headquarters Riyadh (bin laden)
1996 bombing Khobar Towers Saudi Arabia (bin laden)
1998 bombing U.S Nairobia embassy (bin laden)
1998 bombing U.s Dar es Salaam embassy ( bin laden)
2000 Bombing Uss Cole Yemen (bin laden)
2000 Bombing ferguson plaza Philippines and four other locations Manila.

This isn't a full list of attack's just some against Americans.Why don;t we hear about these.The road to Guantanmo started a very long time ago.

I do not in anyway defend Bush Jr, actions in Iraq.But the on the war on terrorism I am a defender of.For year's Jihadist have sought out Westerner's anywhere they could.Now it is pay back time.

They know what is going on if they chose to hide among innocents as a shield so be it.I have no regret's because they have been attacking innocents for years.


BTW nice probaganda pic's here is one you missed of the Evil American Soldier.

edit on 18-2-2013 by rockymcgilicutty because: (no reason given)

The socialist terrorist buggerers in euro don't feel we have our reasons?Personally after trying to digest your unprovable tripe over the years makes me sad you weren't left to the tender mercies of the Nazis or the Russians.

Originally posted by rockymcgilicutty
reply to post by purplemer

 

So you deny attack's have been carried out in the name of Islam since the 1970's?

The attacks carried out by Islam since the 1970s pale into insignificance compared to those carried out in the name of capitalism... Again I ask you do you think the ends justify the means. The US has illegaly attacked two countries since 911 klling between 1-2 million civilians... How many died on 911 a few thousand. Cut with the poor me attitude....

reply to post by AgentX09

The socialist terrorist buggerers in euro don't feel we have our reasons?Personally after trying to digest your unprovable tripe over the years makes me sad you weren't left to the tender mercies of the Nazis or the Russians.

Good thing we never left your little lilly white butts to the native Indians...

reply to post by rockymcgilicutty

Let's be really honest!! Check the link below,scroll down to the 20th century.The British have also been in constent war.

Lets be really honest.. The above statement is off topic, However if you want my opinion I am happy to admit the UK is a waring nation. We are more a nation of bankers these days and the US military is nothing more than an arm of this...

Originally posted by crashbehr
reply to post by purplemer

 

Purple I like that because it is true. I have friends that are Muslim and read parts of the Quran, it is still on my list to read. I wish we could just live and let live, we all have enough problems then to worry about other people.

Crash

thank crash.. shame there is not more people like you. Live and let live is the best policy. I would guess many of the Muslim bahsers on here know very little about the subject nor have any Muslim friends..

reply to post by purplemer

The US has illegaly attacked two countries since 911

Again ,aren't you British? Wasn't your country involved in these invasion's? Are you to victimized by your narrow vision that you cannot see your own fault's.The bull you lay out makes it sound like no other country was there.

Yes the end's justifie the mean's keep killing the Jihadist until the rest of Islam stand's up and stop's there own radicals.

Afterall that is what civilized people should do,clean up their own mess.If they won't we will make them.

reply to post by rockymcgilicutty

It does prove my point that your opinion of the U.S is biased,You Conveniently leave out that the British and other western powers also spied, and heap all the blame on the U.S. While you quote a book that was written for profit as "History".

I'm sorry but the point you were trying to make was, America is well within in its rights to kidnap and murder innocent people because at some point in time it has been targeted by some rather vague people. We are also not talking about other powers, only America.

However it has been shown that those attacks merited action on account of Americas imperialist stretch. Now, I have never at any point really derided America for this imperialism, maybe it has its reasons for doing so, and much of it I can understand why it acts the way it does, many empires have acted the same way. But facts are facts, America has been a very naughty boy and a lot of people are pissed of with them, pretty simple. I think the term is "blow back"?

Now I can see you are making the mistake many America supremacists make, any observation of Americas atrocities and arguments why it may have developed overseas enemies is immediately dismissed as being "anti-american" or some kinds of islamic jihadist. And in all honesty i am surprised you havent just called me a communist or something as ridiculous.

reply to post by rockymcgilicutty


My nation is my planet.. My home the universe. Could you be so kind to address some of my above points which you seem to have conveniently circumnavigated...

Originally posted by purplemer
reply to post by rockymcgilicutty

 

Let's be really honest!! Check the link below,scroll down to the 20th century.The British have also been in constent war.

Lets be really honest.. The above statement is off topic, However if you want my opinion I am happy to admit the UK is a waring nation. We are more a nation of bankers these days and the US military is nothing more than an arm of this...

Lets really really be honest,you took the topic off topic

.I watched and read the whole O/P.I responded to a misleading title. The real Road to Guantanamo started with the first terrorist attack against a American.When I listed some of the attack's you tried to justifie them with supposed U.S worldwide aggression and us being at war always.

When I showed you your country was there on most of the wars you stated.You had no answer, now you accuse me of going off topic.The problem is even when you go off topic you still can't support your arguement

Originally posted by purplemer
reply to post by AgentX09

 

The socialist terrorist buggerers in euro don't feel we have our reasons?Personally after trying to digest your unprovable tripe over the years makes me sad you weren't left to the tender mercies of the Nazis or the Russians.

Good thing we never left your little lilly white butts to the native Indians...

If your referring to the French/Indian war you aren't seriously suggesting the British were protecting the colonists.We were British cannon fodder for YOUR war with Franchise.

reply to post by Tuttle


I notice you change the topic again.I guess you can't reply to my last questions . No if I was to call you a name it would be Spinmaster.

reply to post by purplemer


Way to dodge a reply.

reply to post by rockymcgilicutty


As I stated now for the second time, the UK is a warring nation. However, this topic is about Guantanamo, it was not created by the British. And is in direct violation of the Geneva Convention. It is a war crime.. I am happy to admit that the UK is a puppet of the US. However, the US is a muppet of the banking elite and it is the US that instigated these wars.

reply to post by AgentX09

If your referring to the French/Indian war you aren't seriously suggesting the British were protecting the colonists.We were British cannon fodder for YOUR war with Franchise.

That was not what I was suggesting. I will however state that the US military machine is cannon fodder for the banking elite.

reply to post by rockymcgilicutty


Sorry but I believe the topic of this thread is "The Road To Guantanamo" and not

"Other Nations do bad things so its ok for America to do them too as even the most ardent supremacist can argue the morality of our nations actions when the evidence against them is so plentiful"

By the very fact you cannot even uphold your own defence to any degree when presented with obvious facts only shows you are not sincerely interested in an open forum of debate and only seek to derail a topic that does not quite fit your altogether narrow minded view. I mean lets look at your opening statement shall we?

No you stupid liberal scum this is the Road To Guantanamo

Was that some sort of joke?, instead of any sort of rational comment your first post was an insulting personal attack. That says a lot to be honest. Not only does this do yourself a great disservice, but also a great disservice to other peoples time you are likely wasting.

reply to post by purplemer

Not that in any point during my replies did I argue the legalities of Guantanamo.This was just another change of sunject matter on your part.

And is in direct violation of the Geneva Convention

Article IV of the Aug. 12, 1949 Geneva Convention defined "prisoner of war" with the following criteria:



"Prisoners of war, in the sense of the present Convention, are persons belonging to one of the following categories, who have fallen into the power of the enemy:



1.Members of the armed forces of a Party to the conflict as well as members of militias or volunteer corps forming part of such armed forces.

2.Members of other militias and members of other volunteer corps, including those of organized resistance movements, belonging to a Party to the conflict and operating in or outside their own territory, even if this territory is occupied, provided that such militias or volunteer corps, including such organized resistance movements, fulfil the following conditions: a. That of being commanded by a person responsible for his subordinates;
b. That of having a fixed distinctive sign recognizable at a distance;
c. That of carrying arms openly;
d. That of conducting their operations in accordance with the laws and customs of war."

No all I did was state where the true Road To Guantanamo started.But I must say you are a master of deflection.

reply to post by rockymcgilicutty


You can beat around the bush with slippery words and forked tongue. The Geneva Convention was put in place so we could learn from our mistakes.. If you choose to circumnavigate then so be it.. Evidently your nation has not learnt the mistakes of the Second World War.

The Nazis thought they could get away with such discourse until they were convicted at the Nuremberg Trials. President Bush will be arrested for war crimes if he enters certain countries..

I am not a master of deflection more a mirror, showing your own thoughts and thinking.